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Started by MadelineB, March 20, 2013, 01:22:48 AM

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Law governing transgender use of restrooms proposed
By Dustin Gardiner
The Republic | azcentral.com
Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:51 PM


http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/20130319law-governing-transgender-use-restrooms-proposed.html

The furor surrounding Phoenix's new anti-discrimination law has found its way to the state Capitol, with opponents pushing a bill that would block many transgender people from using the public bathroom of their choosing.

Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, wants to create Arizona's first law governing restroom privileges. Under Senate Bill 1432, someone would be guilty of disorderly conduct if he or she uses a bathroom, locker room or dressing room that's not designated for the sex listed on his or her birth certificate.

The House Appropriations Committee will hear the issue at 2 p.m. Wednesday, and dozens are expected to turn out for the testimony.

Some Phoenix City Council members see the proposal as a rebuke to their vote last month to broadly outlaw discrimination against the city's gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender residents. A council majority approved the changes after more than five hours of emotionally charged testimony.

Councilman Tom Simplot, who is openly gay and pushed the reforms, said if SB 1432 becomes law, it would criminalize the "very nature" of being transgender, a term used to describe people who identify as a sex different than that they were born as.

"They're creating a solution to a problem that doesn't exist," Simplot said of the proposal. "This kind of extremist legislation is exactly what brings criticism to Arizona and compromises our work to make Phoenix an accepting and competitive city."

SB 1432 would make it illegal to enter a bathroom if signage indicates it is exclusively for the opposite sex. Authorities could charge violators with a Class 1 misdemeanor, punishable by a $2,500 fine and up to six months in jail.

"Many transgender people do not look like the sex that's designated on their birth certificate," Silverman said. "This bill will put transgender people in serious danger."

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suzifrommd

Alas. Some of us who live in more open-minded areas need to read stories like this to remind us how much some people hate us.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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Vicky

Just when I was planning a trip to the Grand Canyon -- sigh!!   What happens if you don't have an Arizona birth certificate??
I refuse to have a war of wits with a half armed opponent!!

Wiser now about Post Op reality!!
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DriftingCrow

There are some updates to this issue found here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21870064#
Arizona debates transgender access to public toilets
Source: BBC Author: Unlisted Updated: March 20, 2013 at 21:51 ET

"Transgender protesters forced a halt to debate on the bill on Wednesday... On Wednesday, Mr Kavanagh agreed to postpone a vote on the bill at the start of a hearing filled with dozens of transgender activists. The bill's opponents say it would force transgender people to reveal themselves and risk harassment".

Transgender advocates argue that this bill would make them criminals, would force trans people to reveal themselves, risk harassment, and cite how it can be very difficult to get the birth markers changed on one's birth certificate.
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Jumpingcats

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ToriJo

It's back, this time striking out everything in SB 1045 and replacing it.  Note the bill number changed, hearing is tomorrow afternoon.

Major change is that this, instead of criminalizing use of the bathroom, "simply" allows businesses and others to discriminate and nullifies city ordinances that say otherwise.
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lezbelle123

Quote from: suzifrommd on March 20, 2013, 09:32:16 AM
Alas. Some of us who live in more open-minded areas need to read stories like this to remind us how much some people hate us.
Truthfullly, there is nothing better than having " less governmental intrusion" in our lives. Reagan said it, Bush I and Bush II said it, Congressperson Steve Pearce-NM 2nd dist. says it; they all seem to talk about " less government" in our lives. However, as a transsexual lesbian feminist, they give us drug tests for welfare and food stamps [ some states], highly-intrusive ultrasound vaginal probes for pregnant bio-women considering a legal abortion[ Texas]; and now transgender restroom laws? Wonderful, where have the Log Cabin Republicans gone? many of their party, the Repugnants, seem to be caving into the demands of the rightest of wing right wingers; those lovely " Mrs. Ward Cleavers" like Penny Nance at Concerned Women for America [ www.cwfa.org] who literally feared that the Colorado Transgender Anti-discrimination laws would allow " Men to dress in women's clothing so they can gain access to women's public restrooms, this to rape women and molest our daughters" [ I'm serious!]. Good thing that the National Organization for Women, aka: NOW, is fighting for transwomen's rights because transwomen are, well, WOMEN! [ www.now.org] Truly, I cannot see myself degrading myself to that level. Having spent two years homeless driving across the country in full or part-way and staying in many shelters; I REFUSED to lower myself and use that other bathroom. The Jesus Center in Chico, CA gave me problems; Pastor Rich Young denying me use of the women's room despite what my driver's license stated-'F" for female. Good Samaritan Shelter in Carbondale, IL actually asking me to " show surgery papers" because " [my] license was not good enough". Same for the Danbury shelter system in my own Connecticut where my license was from at the time; in Nov. 2011 Mike Fleming-director, demanding that I show " Real proof of gender change"; at which time I showed him the emergency orchiectomy from Denver Health [ after I took matters into my own hands because, being on SSDI/SSI, Medicare and the SSA refuses to both change birth "gender" and cover SRS and/or even female medical necessities such as mammograms!]. Connecticut passed their gender identity and expression act into law shortly after in spring 2012! Eugene, OR in Oct. 2009, their St. Vincent De Paul society shelter, upon calling and explaining my situation, told me " We go by your physical sex. You would be in the M** shelter". No thanks! Good thing I had that tent bought with credit cards still not paid for! I felt much more " dignified" camping for five weeks in a rainy coastal forest [ Suisun National For.] and using compost restroom and/or squatting like any dignified woman would before lowering myself back to my pre-coming out status! As a non-traditional student at New Mexico State University-Dona Ana who is living on campus in an adult student efficiency apt. with shared bathroom; our NMSU Housing considers transwomen to be....WOMEN. You will be paired with another woman for dorm roommate or, in student apartments, for a roommate or bathroom share-mate! Believe me, with the hostile looks from some of these men as I walk into the women's and they, then men's room-YIPES!! Not to seem prejudiced, but many of our Mexican-American, heterosexual alpha-male, students give me threatening looks as if they expected me to do the " Lorena Bobbitt" to their manhood which defines "who they are" in life [ Blame the Catholic Church's teachings of "Love thy neighbor" for this!]. NM has a California-like, or CO like, law, by the way; and even though I have not gotten my driver's license yet [ just plates], it is really easy; especially if you already possess a Female lic. from another state. If not, psychologist fills out shorter than short form stating " full time".   
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