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Started by Tristan, April 03, 2013, 08:47:22 PM

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Tristan

Ok so I'm dealing with physical violence from strangers lately by people who know me from before outing me for fun. How do you deal with this? I really don't want to become a statistic and sadly I'm not strong anymore so... Yeah I'm just trying to brainstorm some ideas
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Ms. OBrien CVT

If you are being physically attacked or touched, call the police. 

But otherwise,  you will need three things.  Taser, Mace or pepper spray and a cell phone. 

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
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Devlyn

Big hug! Move to a new location and start over? Hugs, Devlyn
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Antonia J

Taser, mace, cell phone are good recommendations. Is there any way you can avoid being around those people that are threatening you? If you call police, do you think it will escalate the situation? You could maybe look at a personal restraining order, as well.
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LilyoftheValley

they are hurting you physically? dont go around them. it also wouldnt hurt to concealed carry or at least get a taser
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peky

Get yourself a colt commander 0.45 ACP, a cacelled permit, then train yourself on its use.

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TerriT

If you live where you can get a concealed carry permit and arm yourself, do it. You can get pepper spray at the very least. And if you know the people who are harming you, don't go near them, don't hang out with them, don't hang out with their friends. Move on and say goodbye and please stay safe.
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calico

I agree with the concealed carry option, or if you feel you may end up using it and dont want to take a life than the pepper spray/mace/ taser isnt a bad opyion however depending on severity, the lesser options may instigate to a more violent response.  Their is always law you may be able to sue for deformation of character. But all and all very scary situation.
"To be one's self, and unafraid whether right or wrong, is more admirable than the easy cowardice of surrender to conformity."― Irving Wallace  "Before you can be anything, you have to be yourself. That's the hardest thing to find." -  E.L. Konigsburg
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SonadoraXVX

Well, I would use Situational Awareness(ie.know your surroundings), and do intelligence work aka who are your enemies/allies(ie.when do these peep are that locale, what is their background, religous, ex cons, gangmembers, bad/mediocre neighborhood, education, et al.) and where is your safety net/zones(ie.friends/police stations/crowds of people/your car/schools/colleges, et al).
The terrorist cycle goes a bit further, and generally is used to thwart terrorist attacks, sounds like you are possibly being terrorized, and people who like to terrorize generally follow a plan like this:
1. Broad target selection-who and where is the target generally?
2.Intelligence Surveillance-Where are they at, at what times, and watch them/you.
3. Specific Target Selection-You have been targeted and they know your home/where you work/drive/hang out.
4. Pre-Attack Surveillance and planning-Where you normally go, how they will attack you.
5. Attack rehearsal-Even if done mentally, some do it, what they intend to do, with what weapons or backups.
6. Actions on the Objective-Casing you, and where you will be to committ violence.
7. Escape and Exploitation-How they plan on getting away.

Educate yourself on your enemies and what their strengths and weaknesses are and your strength and weaknesses are.

What are the consequences on using a gun, taser, pepper/cs gas spray, knife, pens/pencils, how do they work and how effective are they in real life? protective barriers/armor,  How will you been seen by law enforcement, when can you use deadly force?, who can you ask for help or ask for help to prevent violence. How prepared are you in a physical confrontration?, running away, cornered?, moving away?, using different avenues of approach and leaving(ie.ingresses and egresses), disguises, et al.

I know some of this is military in nature sounding, but hey, it works for me. Know some of this basic stuff and you will be ahead of the game. Note: All of this stuff is defensive in nature, with no counter-offensive strategies mentioned, now getting into counter offensive strategies, a whole other ball of wax.

Lucia,
Former USMC MP

Like Lao Tze said eons ago.

Know your enemy, you got half the battle won.
Know yourself and not the enemy, you got half the battle won.
Know yourself and the enemy and you will not lose any battles
To know thyself is to be blessed, but to know others is to prevent supreme headaches
Sun Tzu said it best, "To know thyself is half the battle won, but to know yourself and the enemy, is to win 100% of the battles".



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big kim

How about an alarm?I used to have the one where you pull a pin on a cord out to set it off,we were given them when I worked on the trams and buses.The best defence is not to be there,if you don't have to be there don't.Some martial art training such as hap kido,(I think)you don't have to be big or strong to do this and you can disable an attacker with this knowledge.If you're getting a gun get training before carrying it or using it.Have you a friend who can escort you?If it get's into a fight back into a narrow shop doorway and you will be able to fight one on one,kicking the **** out of someone in front of his mates will 9 times out of 10 make these cowards run away.I'm sorry you have had to go through this,good luck and best wishes.
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suzifrommd

There are domestic violence and rape crisis organizations nearly everywhere. This doesn't exactly fit into their mission, but they are accustomed to helping women in danger.

Talk to them. See what kind of support they will offer.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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StellaB

I'd get a dog with a full set of healthy teeth.

Dogs don't have an issue with trans folk (being more intelligent than humans). Doesn't have to be a big dog (which would cost you in food) or something like a pitbull.

A small Jack Russell terrier would be ideal. They're small, fast, highly intelligent, and can turn really nasty when they're protecting someone. They also make good companions.

"The truth within me is more than the reality which surrounds me."
Constantin Stanislavski

Mistakes not only provide opportunities for learning but also make good stories.
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couch tater

So strangers are physically attacking you because old acquaintances get off on outing you to them for their amusement?  What kind of places are you going where people are that messed up?

Change where you go to avoid those people, press charges against those that physically attack you. Consider relocating if those options don't work.  I don't think I would get into the whole concealed/carry thing, too much bad can come of that and basically ruin your life even if you are in the right.
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Anna++

Why are people outing you for "fun"?  I think you should gather a group of supportive friends to help confront the people outing you so that they'll stop.
Sometimes I blog things

Of course I'm sane.  When trees start talking to me, I don't talk back.



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Brooke777

Quote from: Ms. OBrien CVT on April 03, 2013, 09:07:55 PM
If you are being physically attacked or touched, call the police. 

But otherwise,  you will need three things.  Taser, Mace or pepper spray and a cell phone.

I think this is the best advice in this thread. It is unwise to carry a deadly weapon unless you 1) know how to use it extremely well, 2) you are prepared to take someone else's life. If you cannot avoid the situation, carry the above non lethal defenses. It was also mentioned by another post, to carry an alarm. I think that is also a good idea as it may draw a lot of unwanted attention. Be safe, and smart. Good luck.
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LilyoftheValley

Quote from: TessaM on April 04, 2013, 11:24:59 AM
Seriously though Tristan what the heck? How does this happen? Where do you live, Saudi Arabia???
I agree with what she said, what kind of place do you live in? I would probably leave.
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NotThereYet

Quote from: TessaM on April 04, 2013, 11:24:59 AM
Seriously though Tristan what the heck? How does this happen? Where do you live, Saudi Arabia???

I actually don't think they attack women in Saudi Arabia...

@Tristan
I would stay away from these People and call the Police as soon as of them near me. I would not run away, or move somewhere else: you have a right to live wherever you want to, whether you are black white, sraight, gay, bi, trans, Chinese, whatever.

Good Luck,
Andrea
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TerriT

Quote from: NotThereYet on April 04, 2013, 06:13:05 PM
I actually don't think they attack women in Saudi Arabia...

@Tristan
I would stay away from these People and call the Police as soon as of them near me. I would not run away, or move somewhere else: you have a right to live wherever you want to, whether you are black white, sraight, gay, bi, trans, Chinese, whatever.

Good Luck,
Andrea


In the Qatif girl rape case, an 18-year old victim of kidnapping and gang rape was sentenced by a Saudi court to six months in prison and 200 lashes.

Wiki has a long entry on womens rights in Saudi Arabia if anyone is actually interested.

And you may have a "right" to go and live wherever you want, but it can also get you killed. In many restraining order cases, the order is nullified if the accuser knowingly goes into places or situations where the defendant has a reasonable chance of being there. If I get beat up in a bar, get an order somehow against the person who did it, then return to the bar with my fancy paperwork and get beat up again, the cops are not going to do a thing about it.
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calico

Thats really messed up :(, I would figure there is some way to file charges against them  ???  Yea at this point you are probally going to have to get away from there I would say, going place's alone may also not be good eaither, if they have aleadt done physical harm to you than that is bad especially if they got away with it, its only a matter of time before the actions they do gets stepped up to perhaps a much more severe attack..
Your situation kinda reminds me of the movie biy's dont cry, but reverse gender. I eally am afraid for your safety

other possible states to go would be I would say colorado, much more accepting there, also unless you are getting into a possible ltr I would not out yourself..

Please be carefull and stay safe, it would be a very sad thing to hear we lost someone especially after they got fully done.. :(
"To be one's self, and unafraid whether right or wrong, is more admirable than the easy cowardice of surrender to conformity."― Irving Wallace  "Before you can be anything, you have to be yourself. That's the hardest thing to find." -  E.L. Konigsburg
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big kim

Stay safe and remember you don't have to put up with violence.Good luck and best wishes
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