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Lets discuss how we live FT while never in stealth and no way of doing so.

Started by Cindy, April 12, 2013, 05:36:10 AM

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Cindy

I'm aware that many of us wish, need and hope to live and 'pass' and be accepted as ourselves. I think there are many reasons for this, to be ourselves without the hassles, to be truly accepted, to be not only regarded but be accepted as our true gender.

This is a topic that is often discussed and advice and questions given.

I want to look at this from a different perspective. I'm FT with no way, desire, wish, want or anything to ever be him again, he died and I never bothered with the funeral. I'm extremely happy and not having any problems beyond life's usual events that we all live with.

I'm interested in how many of us live this way, how we cope and what advice can we give to men and woman facing their new lives.

What problems have you had and how have you dealt with them?

Certainly some men and woman feel so out of place that they do de-transition, and this may be in part due to such problems.

Here with have a large cohort of people who have faced the same stuff, so we can give help in circumstances that seem remote to the individual at the time.

Some of us have problems in this area, some of us don't, I want to see if we can help each other overcome those situations.

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kelly_aus

I'm not stealth in any way, shape or form.. I have way too many old friends and family in my life for that. But I also don't advertise my past.

I just live my life, I deal with issues as they come up. I am accepted as the woman I am, by people from all kinds of backgrounds. Why? I can only put it down to confidence in who I am and a 'Take no BS' attitude.
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spacial

I try to express myself within.

That's a bit esoteric I suppose, but I figured that my appearance is essentially for others. I could be the most attractive human since George Cloony, but a nasty personality just makes me ugly.

Once I gave up trying to be a man, to say man things and so on, and accepted that I I don't need to fear being effeminate, even if I'm not female in physical appearance, I found I was better able to manage to frustrations.
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suzifrommd

I'm not fulltime yet, but I hope to be within the next couple months. This will be the way I live, because there's no way my face will pass.

I know a lot of women who live this way. Most of them seem very happy with their transitions. They report that they are usually treated with respect and most people understand where they're coming from and do not misgender them.

I think they're happier because they never worry about whether they're being "read".
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: Kelly the Trans-Rebel on April 12, 2013, 05:56:12 AM
I'm not stealth in any way, shape or form.. I have way too many old friends and family in my life for that. But I also don't advertise my past.

I just live my life, I deal with issues as they come up. I am accepted as the woman I am, by people from all kinds of backgrounds. Why? I can only put it down to confidence in who I am and a 'Take no BS' attitude.

That's it! Just walk and present as if you own the place...I also make it a point to smile (gentle smile, not big toothy grin) and wave (girlie!) to people I see who are looking at me with any sort of "?" on their face.

I've had several people tell me that my confidence in myself (not arrogant, just confidence) helped put them at ease, as well. "How can one not be comfortable around someone who is obviously happy with themselves?"
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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big kim

No way I would blend in I'm   6 '1 and a  half big built with long blonde hair.I act confident even when I don't feel it and have the attitude that if you have a problem with me stay out of my face.I worked for many years as a bus driver dealing with the public and am generally accepted and respected
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Blaine

Quote from: spacial on April 12, 2013, 07:03:55 AM
I try to express myself within.

That's a bit esoteric I suppose, but I figured that my appearance is essentially for others. I could be the most attractive human since George Cloony, but a nasty personality just makes me ugly.

Exactly. I do the best I can to be a good person, and if someone else can't find it in them to return the favor to me I truly feel sorry for them. I don't have the option of going stealth when I go FT and I've been working on dealing with that since I came out to my family. Most of them support my transition and I can't punish all of them for one person's insecurity. I know I won't pass 100% of the time since my features are pretty feminine and my voice is really, really high. I know T won't be a miracle drug. But I've accepted that. I won't be the one who has a problem with my transition and I plan on being myself whether or not I fit the stereotypes and whether or not anyone else likes it. I'm tired of being a puppet and I'm tired of playing house. I'm going to spend the rest of my life being who I want to be and who I know I am, even if the stares and whispers start up again. The way I see it is that anything could be better than how it is now, even if a few people in every crowd aren't onboard.
I did my waiting! Twelve years of it! In [my head!] Azkaban!
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JoanneB

Though I am not full-time, I have been doing part-time for about two years now. I have to say the old adage of "Attitude is everything" is about everything. Attitude can come from faking it, or owning it. I know the difference well. As a very shy person and uber engineer, I often got nominated for customer calls with the sales guys. My inner chameleon learned how to do sales guy, as readily as it learned how to do guy guy.

That faking attitude was never enough to jump the hurdles of shame and guilt. Only after a lot of hard work, gaining back some self-esteem and self confidence, dropping the shame of being trans and a good portion of the guilt, have I obtained true success. I achieved my life long dream of being seen as and accepted as a woman. Well, lets say no laughing teens, no rocks, no peasents with pitch forks and torches.

I am 6ft tall, tend to overdress some for rural West Virgina, but I am a big city girl. I get the occassional way too long look. Perhaps even more than those I notice. I tell myself it's because of those factor plus being a member of another minority, thin(ish), in a land filled with very overweight people. Sure, look closely and you see the big frog hands, extra-large feet, super-sized super orbital ridges, that may be a wig (which it is), the deeper voice and more.  But I live those days and evening as the real me. Experiencing joy. Feelings! Even having some passion rather than the WTF it doesn't matter attitude of my past.

I try to always focus on the positives. It is way too easy to slip into the negatives and derail your day, if not your life. I wish learned that over 30 years ago when I first tried transitioning.
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Shannon1979

Though im not full time yet myself. Hoping to be very soon. Yes i would like to accepted fully, but on the same note i now volunteer for my local LGBT centre. So authough i want to completley pass while out amongst strangers. I dont worry so much about people who know me (parents aside but thats another story). I am fairly lucky to have the friends i do though as the ones i have told are very accepting and even call me Shannon when im dressed male. obviously it is taking time for them to get used to and still call me by my old name on occasion, but they are very accepting and supportive.

Thing is everyone is different. Though i detest having to dress male quite a bit at the moment, i dont hate the old me. I accept that he will always be part of my history so i dont want to forget him. Through all the crap ive gone through there where some good times as well. I knjow some people destroy old photoes and things like that as well. While i dont actually have many photos i will keep the ones i have, maybe not on display but in a small album i have. :angel:
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Brooke777

I'm full time, and pass some times. But, I don't try to 'pass', I just go through life being me. Even if I don't pass people still treat me as a woman. I guess I just don't really think about passing.
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XchristineX

When I was 15 I ran away to Vancouver to be a girl...

Started dressing...good body bad facial hair..
Learned about tweeezing...bought tweezerman professional..
Jumped forward by lightyears after tweezing and full body waxing...

Got called a lot of names...than when I was totally broken...
It changed...I no longer cared if anyone can tell I was mtf...
I spoke to men woman everyone as a  naturally developing personality..

That was where I stated acting like a girl...when j realized that men
Are going to expect that...and I found if I never responded.in a male way
In defence..I wad  good to go....so dont challenge men...be passive...

Added mones...and wow life changed...with in 6o months the.men
Didn't look at my face very much lol...at first it really annoyed me...
To have conversations where they talk to my tits..


But I learned to live with it...we are.part of the sex class ...females
Now...it goes with the territory...

I had to detransition...and now going back ..permanently...
My advise is to let the hormones doost of the heavy lifting...
I never changed voice...never stuffed a bra...but I was able to integrate

Was my experience..but Vancouver is a funny city...anything goes...
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: XchristineX on April 13, 2013, 10:57:00 AM
When I was 15 I ran away to Vancouver to be a girl...

Started dressing...good body bad facial hair..
Learned about tweeezing...bought tweezerman professional..
Jumped forward by lightyears after tweezing and full body waxing...

Got called a lot of names...than when I was totally broken...
It changed...I no longer cared if anyone can tell I was mtf...
I spoke to men woman everyone as a  naturally developing personality..

That was where I stated acting like a girl...when j realized that men
Are going to expect that...and I found if I never responded.in a male way
In defence..I wad  good to go....so dont challenge men...be passive...

Added mones...and wow life changed...with in 6o months the.men
Didn't look at my face very much lol...at first it really annoyed me...
To have conversations where they talk to my tits..


But I learned to live with it...we are.part of the sex class ...females
Now...it goes with the territory...

I had to detransition...and now going back ..permanently...
My advise is to let the hormones doost of the heavy lifting...
I never changed voice...never stuffed a bra...but I was able to integrate

Was my experience..but Vancouver is a funny city...anything goes...

Wow, I really self-identify with this part. When one is "broken", one no longer cares what others think...and this allows one's natural personality/self to come out.

I would suggest, to those who are afraid of "not passing"...to let the fear break the male-aspect of yourSELF, and allow the woman inside to come out, without any reluctance. It will take time, it will hurt...but the hurt will always be there, be inside you, if you don't let "him" break first.

*hugs* to XchristineX
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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