Quote from: muuu on May 16, 2013, 09:19:02 PM
I think it's different if you've grown up with it, and have lived with the gender differences for years... especially if you've been somehow abused by a man, which I think is quite common for women.
I don't really think men or trans women who haven't spent many years as female can really judge it, I think it's something you have to experience. The same way a cis person, or a trans person who's seen as cis, can't really judge how much more privileged cis people are than trans people, because they haven't experienced it to the same extent themselves.

I appreciate certain aspects of it. I know what it's like to have your ideas crapped on by men, what it feels like to have men assume you can't do something that you've been doing for years (like programming), to be talked over when you have a good point or even be looked at like you're an idiot for having an opinion. But getting defensive because a guy does something nice? No, I don't get that at all.

You hold the door open for me, I'll smile and thank you. I think men get off on that stuff anyways.

I would like to try and clarify my position. People seem to think that I'm denouncing the act of door holding. Particularly when it comes to men doing it for women. That is not the case at all. I'm for everyone holding the door for anyone. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on May 16, 2013, 09:54:05 PM
You hold the door open for me, I'll smile and thank you. I think men get off on that stuff anyways.

That's pretty much how I feel. I'm not trying to rock the boat. I wish I hadn't created this thread.