So...since I had to get some tighter sports bras for binding, I had to go to the mall. Unbound, chest rather visible. It was really dysphoric, and I resigned myself to the fact I'd have to be seen as a woman in order to obtain these bras.
Well, I got stopped by a salesperson who was selling these creams and soaps and stuff. First, the guy stops me and puts the sample on my hand. In other words, he saw and felt how little and soft my hands are. I was convinced he saw me as female and just resigned myself to that uncomfortable fact...then he goes "we also have this shaving cream for men. I see you shave, this might be good to put on your face afterwards to keep your skin clear."
So then a woman comes along, the manager. And she wants me to try this mud. Again, she has to put it on my hand. She does and she's standing real close to me, closer than the guy was, she talks to me and again brings up the acne thing, lol, saying she had adult acne too (I doubt that). Again, I figure "OK, she probably thinks I'm a girl." But she goes "we don't get a lot of guys here, we want guys to try our products......*keeps talking*....do you have a girlfriend? ...*keeps talking*....you guys! Always want to get out of the mall so fast, not like girls."
All this with two people who looked at my face very close up, touched my soft little hands, and saw me unbound and with fairly visible breast lumps. Still read as male. That's pretty unbelievable.
I did buy a few of their products too. They're expensive. :| But nice, and hopefully they will do a little good for my skin.
They also seemed to think I was Jewish (they were Jewish themselves).