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Body Mass Index questions.

Started by kariann330, June 06, 2013, 04:44:02 PM

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kariann330

So a lot of surgeons have BMI requirements, i think the average is 25, before they will perform SRS, FFS or even breast implants. I know right now im not even close to that requirement with a BMI of 32 but im wondering if they will make exceptions if your close. For what ever the reason is at my slimmest i was 160lbs with a BMI of 26. So im wondering if im hit because of being a bigger person, or if they will make an exception if your one point over the surgeons BMI requirements.

Btw yes i know my current BMI has me in the obese category but im starting a diet and INSANITY soon so i can start loosing weight.
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Heather

I don't know much about bmi. But if your not on hrt yet I would advise losing all the weight you can before. I really don't know how far along you are in transitioning are you close to having SRS? What kind of time frame you looking at to drop the extra weight? But the best way to drop the extra weight is running and other types of cardio based workouts will have you dropping weight in no time when combined with a sensible diet. Anyways good luck with the weight loss it's not really as hard as it seems as long as your determined and keep your focus on your goal instead of how you look now. I guess the same advice could be used for transitioning as well. :)
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jamielikesyou

I think I read somewhere that surgeons want girls to be under 200 lbs before performing SRS but I can't find the source for this. As to BMI, no clue but I can't think it would be as rigid in requirements for all surgeries. Good luck with your weight loss, I'm still losing myself.
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Tristan

Normally I hear they max out who they will do surgery on between 200-220.
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kariann330

Quote from: Tristan on June 06, 2013, 05:28:15 PM
Normally I hear they max out who they will do surgery on between 200-220.

Oh well if that's the case i only have to loose 10-20 pounds lol.
I need a hero to save me now, i need a hero to save my life, a hero will save me just in time!!

"Don't bother running from a sniper, you will just die tired and sweaty"

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Jenna Marie

Brassard does not have a strict BMI or pound requirement - I had a BMI of about 30 and was 230 lbs and had no trouble whatsoever. (He did demand the standard health panel of bloodwork, but that's a requirement for everybody.) Since my cholesterol, etc. was excellent and I was in very good physical shape, my weight was never mentioned.

Personally, I think the BMI is crap as a measure of fitness, so I preferred not to go to a surgeon who believed in it. :)
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A

BMI is a very, very indicative thing. As in, it's not a precise measurement at all. Depending on build, muscle and some other factors, someone might seem like they're absolutely lean and fit at a BMI of 25, and their neighbour will look like a fattie.

Basically, I think that by "BMI of 25" they mean "healthy weight". If they see you have a healthy weight, it should be all right. If you're really scared, you could try to have someone (like your GP) measure your body fat percentage and write a letter certifying your body fat percentage is X and that it's a healthy value, definitely low enough to be safe for surgery.

I doubt any doctor bases themselves off a volatile thing like BMI in such a strict way though, so such things shouldn't be necessary. You can write the surgeon if you want to make sure, too.

I, for example, am still a little fat yet my BMI is around 22.5. But my mother, who's technically overweight, says she became literally skeletic and sickly when she technically reached the middle of the healthy weight range. And my sister, even at 170 pounds (well I don't see her often and her weight yoyos a lot), doesn't look THAT fat. And on the other end of the range, some people are, like, underfed according to BMI, but look and feel great. (I envy those people, but this is not the point.)
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Tristan

Quote from: kariann330 on June 06, 2013, 08:55:04 PM
Oh well if that's the case i only have to loose 10-20 pounds lol.
Yeah you can email the surgeon and ask them and they wi normally tell you what they want you to do. But 200-220 seems to be about the average cut off normally
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A

Well, I'd say it depends. 200 pounds is a really conservative limit for someone as tall as 185+ cm, while for someone 165 cm or less, that's actually operating on an obese.
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kariann330

Well im only worried about it cuz at 5'9" i weigh about 230-240....which scares me because this is the most i have ever weighed, i have been warned about my cholesterol and blood sugar levels, and have family history of heart problems, diabetes and high cholesterol....and im only 29....my last endo appointment scared the sh*t out of me basically.
I need a hero to save me now, i need a hero to save my life, a hero will save me just in time!!

"Don't bother running from a sniper, you will just die tired and sweaty"

Longest shot 2500yards, Savage 110BA 338 Lapua magnum, 15X scope, 10X magnifier. Bipod.
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Carrie Liz

#10
Dafuq? Why the hell have I never heard this before?

Damn it... I'm at 225 lbs right now. So seriously? They would call that too overweight to perform SRS on, even though I'm 6'1" and have a large build, and don't look fat whatsoever? According to BMI numbers, I'd have to get down to 190 f***ing pounds just in order to make it to the weight limit. That SERIOUSLY freaking sucks.

Well, great... just freaking great... I'd been feeling great all day, finally feeling like I was starting to actually like my own body for the first time. But now I have a completely new reason to freaking hate myself.

I'm going to go cry in a corner now... :'(
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Phoenix26

Quote from: kariann330 on June 06, 2013, 11:40:48 PM
Well im only worried about it cuz at 5'9" i weigh about 230-240....which scares me because this is the most i have ever weighed, i have been warned about my cholesterol and blood sugar levels, and have family history of heart problems, diabetes and high cholesterol....and im only 29....my last endo appointment scared the sh*t out of me basically.

I know you said you were going to start a diet and do INSANITY, but I'd make a conscious decision to make lifestyle changes going forward.  Especially because of your family history.  A lot of times people will do a reflex diet/workout due to bad news and then it just comes back later.  It's a vicious cycle.  The best way to make a change that sticks is to ease yourself into it.  Begin with light cardio and work up from there.  INSANITY is good after you get some endurance.  Also, change up what you're eating to include healthier foods and less quantities of food in general.  Weight loss is largely about caloric intake.  If you eat less than your body needs to maintain your current weight, you'll lose it.  It also means you can still have some naughty food now and again and be perfectly fine if you keep track of what you put into your body.

It might seem hard and stuff at first, but believe me, you'll find it actually becomes really easy once you get used to it.  It becomes routine.  I'm around 5'8 - 5'9 and have dropped from the 160's to 130 in the last ten months.  It's takes waaaaay longer to lose weight when you have less to lose too, so you should be able to get awesome results A LOT faster than I did.

http://walking.about.com/cs/calories/l/blcalcalc.htm

Use that to help out.

I'm just guessing your activity level, but you need somewhere around 2400 calories a day to stay at your current weight.  3500 calories is about 1lb, so if you start eating like 1700 calories a day, you'll lose a lb every 5 days.  Add in the cardio and you'll speed it up.  This is just an estimate of course.

Oh, and if you drink soda at all, drop it right away and drink lots and lots of water.  Not only is water good for you, it helps keep you feeling full.

:)
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Jamie D

Quote from: Carrie Liz on June 06, 2013, 11:44:44 PM
Dafuq? Why the hell have I never heard this before?

Damn it... I'm at 225 lbs right now. So seriously? They would call that too overweight to perform SRS on, even though I'm 6'1" and have a large build, and don't look fat whatsoever? According to BMI numbers, I'd have to get down to 190 f***ing pounds just in order to make it to the weight limit. That SERIOUSLY freaking sucks.

Well, great... just freaking great... I'd been feeling great all day, finally feeling like I was starting to actually like my own body for the first time. But now I have a completely new reason to freaking hate myself.

I'm going to go cry in a corner now... :'(

BMI is not very precise.  If you want a more accurate estimate, use hydrostatic weighing.
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Sammy

Yup, was going to say the same - BMI does not take into account Your muscle and bone mass. For someone who is 1,76 tall (shot? :P) and weights around 72 kilos my BMI is 23.2, but I still have a bit of fat around my waist (any handles whatsover are gone long time ago) and my thighs are still not the way I would like them to be. It looks like I am going to loose my butt before that waist fat is going to disappear... :(. The best shape ever I have been was when I graduated school - IIRC I was about 67-68 kilos and then 5 years later when I had positively insane HtH combat instructor, so I assume that my bones are heavier than Your average person. Also, the bigger Your frame is are, the stronger (and heavier?) Your bones must be in order to maintain that frame, ne c'est-pas?
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Heather

Quote from: Carrie Liz on June 06, 2013, 11:44:44 PM
Dafuq? Why the hell have I never heard this before?

Damn it... I'm at 225 lbs right now. So seriously? They would call that too overweight to perform SRS on, even though I'm 6'1" and have a large build, and don't look fat whatsoever? According to BMI numbers, I'd have to get down to 190 f***ing pounds just in order to make it to the weight limit. That SERIOUSLY freaking sucks.

Well, great... just freaking great... I'd been feeling great all day, finally feeling like I was starting to actually like my own body for the first time. But now I have a completely new reason to freaking hate myself.

I'm going to go cry in a corner now... :'(
Carrie your doing great and you should be proud of yourself. 190 is definitely obtainable at one point I was like 300 at my lowest weight I was 172. Trust me it seems impossible but it's not! And besides once you start losing muscle mass you will drop more weight. And besides haven't you dropped like 30+ pounds already? Just look at this way your half way to your goal. Your doing a great job Carrie keep it up and don't get discouraged by a weight requirement for a surgery that is probably a ways off. Just set your goal weight and focus on it and it will happen have patience.  :)
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Christine167

I wouldn't count on those figures. I was an operating room x-ray tech and I have see far more invasive surgeries on even heavier patients with BMIs that you would not be able to start to get an accurate measure of. Patients so large I could not get enough x-rays to penetrate through them to make an image on my film.

Not being sure of if they want the BMI down to increase odds of patient happiness or surgical appearance results or even just to increase your odds of good response to anesthesia you should try to make yourself healthy before going into a surgery.

Just like what the others have just keep a good exercise and diet and things will fall into place. I'm dieting and exercising now and while I have only lost a little weight I do feel much better and I can push myself harder. I'm was a thin 180pds, 6'2" guy who got winded just going up a flight of stairs because I've not been taking care of myself. Now I'm almost back to where I was before taking a desk job.
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AbbyJamz

Quote from: kariann330 on June 06, 2013, 11:40:48 PM
Well im only worried about it cuz at 5'9" i weigh about 230-240....which scares me because this is the most i have ever weighed, i have been warned about my cholesterol and blood sugar levels, and have family history of heart problems, diabetes and high cholesterol....and im only 29....my last endo appointment scared the sh*t out of me basically.

Don't dispair!  You basically just described my status last year! I am 5'9", 29 y/o, & 170lbs (working to get to 145).  When I started trying to lose weight, I was at 230lbs.  You can do it if you motivate yourself properly and keep your goals in mind!  It's never too late to turn it around if you are unhappy with your weight!
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kariann330

Well once i start working out hardcore, if the mods don't mind, ill start a thread with my weekly results. As for starting off just walking, i already do about 2 miles a day and am a hot sweaty mess at the end of it and am huffing and puffing harder then my dog is. As for cutting calories im already down to about 1550-2000 a day right now, but yeah the soda and energy drinks gotta go lol.
I need a hero to save me now, i need a hero to save my life, a hero will save me just in time!!

"Don't bother running from a sniper, you will just die tired and sweaty"

Longest shot 2500yards, Savage 110BA 338 Lapua magnum, 15X scope, 10X magnifier. Bipod.
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kariann330

Oh and if that thread does fly, I'll also post pics too......maybe lol
I need a hero to save me now, i need a hero to save my life, a hero will save me just in time!!

"Don't bother running from a sniper, you will just die tired and sweaty"

Longest shot 2500yards, Savage 110BA 338 Lapua magnum, 15X scope, 10X magnifier. Bipod.
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