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Experience with insurance coverage for endo visits and blood work (U.S)

Started by Ltl89, June 15, 2013, 02:09:51 PM

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Ltl89

Hello Everyone,

I'm a little concerned about whether my insurance will cover everything and I wanted to get some feedback here from others.  I have just checked my claims on my insurance site and noticed some alarming prices.  One endo appointment was $350 and the blood work was about $3,000. This hasn't been processed yet, so I don't know what will be covered.  Because my doctor wants me to get two more blood tests this month, see a hemotologist and then see her again (for the third time), I'm freaking out a bit.  3 visits with her is about $1,000 and the blood work will come to $9,000 adding all the 3 times I would get it done.  If this isn't covered, I will cry.  Does anyone have experience with coverage for endos and blood work to help calm me down or prepare me for financial Armageddon? I'm going to tell my endo that I can only do one blood test this month and if she doesn't like the results then I will see the hemotologist.  It's kind of ridiculous that I should have separate blood work done for two different doctors.  Plus, slightly higher hemoglobin rates aren't a risk for mtf from what I've read.  Why should I have to get blood tests every other week.  It's a bit much.

Anyway, can anyone tell me there experience with this because I'm starting to panic.  Thanks. 
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misschievous

I don't know about your transition but, the hemotologist should be covered because that sounds more like a medical condition that insurance is supposed to cover. Some Insurance Companies do not cover what is involved in transitioning. I am lucky that for my insurance company will cover most everything with exception FFS and Voice surgery. If I read right, they even cover SRS.
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Ltl89

Well, I have aetna if that helps anyone here.  I don't expect them to cover SRS, hrt medications, ffs or any of that.  But I do hope they will pay for the endo and blood work.

Honestly, I am not seeing the hemotologist until after I see her again.  I know she doesn't want this, but it isn't fair that I should do an additional blood when I am already getting one for my next appointment with her.  Why can't I just get it done for her, let her see the results, and then take those results to a hemotologist if necessary.  Why make me take a whole other test two weeks before I have to get more blood work. 
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Banshee

You might talk to your doctors about your concerns as well. My understanding is that they can code things such that insurance is more likely to cover it if there's a question.
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Beth Andrea

omg...my endo charges $125 per visit, and all of my bloodwork was...umm...I don't recall exactly now, but after 2 CBC's my bill from the lab was $350, and I've had a couple since then with no bill at all. I wouldn't think it's more than a few hundred dollars for each Vampire taste-test...

Also you might call the insurance, since they will post the actual claim, but not how much they pay until the penny-pinchers work it out. The difference between "claimed" and "insurance paid" is of course your portion of the bill.
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Jen-from-IL

The multiple blood tests soy da to me like something non-hormonal may have been found. I had that with my last annual checkup. I had a liver reading that was a bit iffy and my doctor wanted to have it checked again in a month. But that was it and it was all covered by my insurance. My hormones and all doctor visits so far have been covered. My understanding is that GRS is also covered as its not deemed cosmetic.

Talk to your doctor about the necessity of multiple blood tests in such a short period of time.  Again, it sounds to me like there is something else going on there.
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Jess42

If you  have a high deductable insurance it may be better to tell the hospital, lab, endo and everyone else that you don't have insurance. They will usually give you a break in prices.

Did you show the folks your insurance card?

If insurance don't cover it just shop around at different labs. Usually the doctors aren't as expensive as hospitals. Hospitals tend to gouge the crap out ya. I had surgery last year, my doc made $500 off of me and the hospital $3500. It was a 30 min operation.
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Ltl89

Thanks for the feedback.  If anyone else has any experience with insurance coverage for endos and related bloodwork, please let me know.  I'm having a mini breakdown about this. 

Quote from: Jen-from-IL on June 15, 2013, 02:48:46 PM
The multiple blood tests soy da to me like something non-hormonal may have been found. I had that with my last annual checkup. I had a liver reading that was a bit iffy and my doctor wanted to have it checked again in a month. But that was it and it was all covered by my insurance. My hormones and all doctor visits so far have been covered. My understanding is that GRS is also covered as its not deemed cosmetic.

Talk to your doctor about the necessity of multiple blood tests in such a short period of time.  Again, it sounds to me like there is something else going on there.


I had a higher hemogobin rate.  She wants me to get a blood test in a few days and see a hemotologist.  Then she wants me to get a second test two weeks after that and see her.  I figure I'd be better off doing the second test, see her, and then use that same test if I have to see the hemotologist.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 15, 2013, 02:48:25 PM
omg...my endo charges $125 per visit, and all of my bloodwork was...umm...I don't recall exactly now, but after 2 CBC's my bill from the lab was $350, and I've had a couple since then with no bill at all. I wouldn't think it's more than a few hundred dollars for each Vampire taste-test...

Also you might call the insurance, since they will post the actual claim, but not how much they pay until the penny-pinchers work it out. The difference between "claimed" and "insurance paid" is of course your portion of the bill.

Yeah, I'm not going to go to the same lab.  $3,000 for one blood test is really not right.  I'm just praying they will cover the doctor visits and blood tests.

Quote from: Jess42 on June 15, 2013, 02:55:56 PM
If you  have a high deductable insurance it may be better to tell the hospital, lab, endo and everyone else that you don't have insurance. They will usually give you a break in prices.

Did you show the folks your insurance card?

If insurance don't cover it just shop around at different labs. Usually the doctors aren't as expensive as hospitals. Hospitals tend to gouge the crap out ya. I had surgery last year, my doc made $500 off of me and the hospital $3500. It was a 30 min operation.

Yes.  The prices I have are the claims from my insurance website.  I haven't recieved feedback from the insurances as to whether they will cover it or what portion.
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Ltl89

By the way, my endocrinologist accepts my insurance and the lab I was sent to also did as well.  So I'm hoping it will be okay.  I mean the claims were posted on my insurance's website, but they haven't been processed yet.  I'm just afraid they will deny me because I'm trans and I will have to spend thousands just for one endo visit and blood work.  Am I over-thinking this?  Has anyone else been covered for endo visits and bloodwork in the U.S?  Sorry I'm panicking and continuously posting, but I freaked out.  The claims were so much and I don't know what I'll do if my insurance doesn't cover it.  I don't have the money to pay all that myself.
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Flan

probably are overthinking it,since $300 (minus a 0) is more reasonable for ALL the blood tests. If insurance covers the visit they should cover at least part of the labs save copay/coinsurance.
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Jenna Marie

My endocrinologist billed things as "hormonal insufficiency," which got it covered without mentioning trans care. (My insurance plan actually did cover trans care, but I guess she was extra cautious?) Also, my bloodwork only cost about $120, so that price is eye-popping.

I'm wondering if it IS covered by insurance, and that's why the $3K price tag - because they know that insurance company/plan will only pay, say, 10% and they *actually* want to be paid $300 so they inflated the price to the point that would get them the reimbursement they needed. I've had other doctors who admitted they did that (and who charged uninsured patients the "break even cost" instead of the ridiculous insurance price). I second everyone else that if you tell the doctor you're worried about insurance, their office staff should be able to help explain if it's covered and/or they ought to offer a break on the cost if it's not.

You *should* be able to find your insurance policy and check to see if it has a specific listed exclusions page. Anything NOT on there is covered; if it doesn't specifically say "no transsexual care" or whatever, you should be fine. Like, for example, mine said "no coverage for treatment preparing for or including transsexual surgery." You may have to argue a bit (doctors and insurance companies both sometimes like to mess around and see what they can get away with) but you're covered. If it does list the exclusion, then you have a problem... and should contact the doctor to see what can be done from there.
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Ltl89

The blood work was done at a facility affiliated with a hospital.  I don't know what to do.  My endo just wants me to keep getting blood and seeing her, but I can't spend this much.  It would be one thing if I did this every now and then, but if I have to continuously do this and pay out of pocket I'm finished.  $3,000 for a blood work is impossible.  And she wants me to get two more of them in one month.  I think I'm going to have to go to someone else.
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Jess42

Yes learning to live $3000 is extremely rediculous. I would just tell the endo or whoever else you can't afford it and see if there is a cheaper place.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Jess42 on June 15, 2013, 05:38:01 PM
Yes learning to live $3000 is extremely rediculous. I would just tell the endo or whoever else you can't afford it and see if there is a cheaper place.

I'm just hoping that's normal for the insurance companies to get such a huge claim.  Hopefully they'll cover it and I won't notice anything once I get the actual bill.  I'm just very cautious and always follow the claims as they come in on my insurance companies web site.  So hopefully anything that I have to pay will be much less than that.  However, I'm a little scare because most insurance companies tend to refuse coverage for most things that are related to transgender care.  Yet, I haven't seen many people here complaining about not being covered for their endo or blood work; therefore, I'm hoping I'm just worrying myself over nothing.
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misschievous

Quote from: learningtolive on June 15, 2013, 02:27:24 PM
Well, I have aetna if that helps anyone here.  I don't expect them to cover SRS, hrt medications, ffs or any of that.  But I do hope they will pay for the endo and blood work.

Honestly, I am not seeing the hemotologist until after I see her again.  I know she doesn't want this, but it isn't fair that I should do an additional blood when I am already getting one for my next appointment with her.  Why can't I just get it done for her, let her see the results, and then take those results to a hemotologist if necessary.  Why make me take a whole other test two weeks before I have to get more blood work. 
That is what mine is and if I read right I think they will cover parts as long as you follow certain perameters
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Ltl89

Quote from: misschievous on June 15, 2013, 09:07:28 PM
That is what mine is and if I read right I think they will cover parts as long as you follow certain perameters

I've been trying to read the full policy, but I can't locate it on the site.  Aetna's site really sucks.  It's driving me crazy.  My endo told me she marked it as Gender Dysphoria, so I'm having nightmares here that I'm going to have to pay everything out of pocket.  I asked her to do otherwise, but she gave me a b.s reason why she couldn't.  I don't know what to do.  I'm guessing I'm the only person that faced this?  If I have to pay for the blood work and endo it's all over.  How does everyone here do it when they have to pay $3000 for just one blood test? 
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Heather

Quote from: learningtolive on June 15, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
  How does everyone here do it when they have to pay $3000 for just one blood test?
You shouldn't have to pay three grand for a blood test. I'm not even using my insurance for my endo and I haven't even payed $500 all together and that's blood tests and everything so far. There is no way a blood test should be three grand that's just ridiculous!
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Just Shelly

The only thing that would increase the cost of a CBC was if they added specific hormonal analysis....those will increase the cost quite a bit....but still no where near $3,000....I think your numbers are skewed!!
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Ltl89

I'm hoping it will magically be lowered once the claim is processed or something.  Or at the very least it will be covered.  I have a friend in the medical field telling me not to worry, but I've seen so many trans people get screwed over.  Still I trust his analysis and will hope that I'll be covered.  I imagine if they don't cover me that I can work with the lab and the endo to give me a more reasonable bill.   I imagine the reason they make these claims so high is to get what they can out of the insurance company.  But I can't think about this anymore because I'm in tears about this. What will be will be.
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misschievous

Quote from: learningtolive on June 15, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
I've been trying to read the full policy, but I can't locate it on the site.  Aetna's site really sucks.  It's driving me crazy.  My endo told me she marked it as Gender Dysphoria, so I'm having nightmares here that I'm going to have to pay everything out of pocket.  I asked her to do otherwise, but she gave me a b.s reason why she couldn't.  I don't know what to do.  I'm guessing I'm the only person that faced this?  If I have to pay for the blood work and endo it's all over.  How does everyone here do it when they have to pay $3000 for just one blood test? 

I hope this helps :)

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