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Past Life Regression - A Cure For GID?

Started by Julie Marie, September 22, 2010, 05:42:54 PM

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Almond

I don't know if past lives exist, but using them in therapy can't be good practice.
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Pinkfluff

Quote from: Julie Marie on February 08, 2011, 06:16:49 AM
But it would be interesting to KNOW if the whole afterlife thing is real.

There is no way to know for certain if there is an afterlife or reincarnation in a scientific sense because both of these things are not physically provable. You must determine for yourself whether you believe in them or not. I do (so from this point on it's my beliefs not hard science), and I can say that my connection to my past outside of this life and to my ancestral heritage is sometimes the only thing that keeps me going. I think that a problem with these "regressions" as a "cure" is an incorrect definition of what a person is.

Quote from: Julie Marie on September 22, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
She then goes on to say, "It's just a subconscious spirit memory of a visage from a past life on The Other Side that's causing you to seem so inappropriate to yourself." 

Inappropriate to myself? I know who I am better than anyone else can and I'm in no way inappropriate to myself. This is an inappropriate body certainly, but then people aren't bodies with souls they're souls that live in a body. This is the incorrect definition that I refered to, and frankly I find it strange and almost hypocritical that some people who say they believe in the soul and even past lives would still accept such a superficial, secular, and incorrect definition of something so basic to a person's existence.

I think it makes more sense that a person does indeed know their own gender correctly, regardless of the body they're in, and that any incompatibility is a result of an error, mutation, inconsistency, or whatever you want to call it of the natural process that puts souls into bodies. Nothing is perfect after all, not even natural things, so sometimes little deviations will happen. Obviously they aren't so little to those who are affected by them though.
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Pinkfluff

Quote from: perlita85 on February 08, 2011, 09:20:20 PM
They regressed this dude several life-times, and then asked him where he was; they ask him where he was, he said: "Egypt," then they ask him what year it was? and he responded: "1450 BC" An Egyptian leaving at that time would have referred to the 15th year to the reign of Thutmose the IV or something like that.

That was also my first thought when I read "1450 BC". The ancient Egyptians didn't use the same calendar! If he used a historically correct term it might be more convincing, but as it is it sounds made up to me. Pretty strange that it's a culturally popular ancient population and a nice round number like 1450 too. I don't take this to mean that past lives don't exist, but I'm sure there a plenty of people out there trying to manufacture false evidence.
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MarinaM

My woman soul wanted a challenge just to prove how super bad she was, so she said:

"Give me a male prison of a body in a patriarchal society that will hand me everything I want should I choose to always suppress myself. I know I will initially struggle, only to finally strip away my privilege and become strong and beautiful despite the challenge. I will aid those unfortunate enough to have had this done to them unwillingly, and I will be a beacon of hope to every one of my sisters."

Prove it didn't happen.  :)

I have my insecurities and feeble moments, but this is the makeup of my soul. Regress me, I'm sure you'll just make me "worse."
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Julie Marie

If you walk away feeling better, that's good.  If that feeling of wellness lasts for a while, that's better.  If whatever issue you had has forever been resolved in your mind, that's wonderful.  As long as the results are not harmful to anyone, why should how that is accomplished bring about criticism and disdain?

Our world exists in a space six inches wide, the space between our ears.  No one else resides there and therefore no one else has any right or authority telling what is real, what is fantasy, what is good or what is bad unless we ask or do something to harm another.  The belief that we have some sort of right, or even obligation, to give unsolicited advice or pressure others to conform to our belief systems is harmful to those targeted and should not be condoned. 

That's integral to my belief system.
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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JessicaR

Quote from: MarinaM on February 09, 2011, 02:02:15 AM
My woman soul wanted a challenge just to prove how super bad she was, so she said:

"Give me a male prison of a body in a patriarchal society that will hand me everything I want should I choose to always suppress myself. I know I will initially struggle, only to finally strip away my privilege and become strong and beautiful despite the challenge. I will aid those unfortunate enough to have had this done to them unwillingly, and I will be a beacon of hope to every one of my sisters."

I have my insecurities and feeble moments, but this is the makeup of my soul. Regress me, I'm sure you'll just make me "worse."

You rule, Marina !  :-)
I like that


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MarinaM

Quote from: JessicaR on February 09, 2011, 11:35:30 PM
You rule, Marina !  :-)
I like that

:) My therapist and I are working on what it means to be feminine. That was partially born from my understanding.
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VeryGnawty

Quote from: MarinaM on February 09, 2011, 02:02:15 AM
My woman soul wanted a challenge just to prove how super bad she was

LOL.  That's funny.  For me, it's almost the opposite.  I was never super bad.  Actually, I remember being quite the doofus when I was young.

Having to deal with my dysphoria is what made me superbad.  I've matured in ways I don't think I ever would had I been born cis.  Even though my life has been extremely challenging, I am getting used to it.  I can't imagine things being any other way.  Life would probably be boring to me if I wasn't facing some sort of difficulty.
"The cake is a lie."
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Sad Girl

I was told in my past life I was a courtesan (high class prostitute) and I made many men suffer as they were really in love with me and wanted to marry me but I used them all as objects, as a repercussion I have reincarnated trapped in an appropriate body to pay my sin in this current life. I did a post on that before. Check it out if you want.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,90764.0.html
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quinn

I believe in reincarnation, but I've never thought of transsexualism as being something that needs to be "cured"; it's just another one of the things about me that makes me different from other people. In a way, it could even be better than simply being born as a cis-guy (or cis-girl, if you're MtF), as the entire experience of being trans really lets you see things from all sides of the gender spectrum. By being socialized as the opposite gender of your own perception of yourself, and then later experiencing the social norms, etc., of living as the gender you identify as, you can understand a lot more of how cisgender people feel about their own gender roles. What I'm trying to say is, with all of this, is it even possible for a trans-person to be a close-minded bigot? xD

So, as difficult as it is to be trans in this mostly-unaccepting world, I think it's actually a gift. Even if there is a "cure", I don't want it. I am the way I am, and I'm totally fine with it. We, as a community, don't need cures, we just need complete self-acceptance.
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Karii Cloud

I don't really like the idea of "cures" I'm with GaGa. We were born this way BABY! "There's nothing wrong with lovin' who you are. Cuz she made you perfectly" :-*
Check it out
http://kariicloudblog.blogspot.com

Love, peace, puppies, ponies, and glitter,

Karii = )
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jade

Hypnosis works by suggestion, and inducing these suggestions to the subject can trigger false memories or fantasies that may appear as recovered memories.

I had a regression experience myself, and I have come to realise it's all make-believe.

Having said that, hypnosis has been effectively used to treat or reduce symptoms of various habbits and conditions
so if the regression has benefits for you such as overcoming phobias or certain behaviours, then it is useful.
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Jamiess

The world is an amazing place. People are born with all kinds of abnormalities. Personally I don't want to be cured "mind-wise" I would not be the same person. Surgically would work but I would lose a lot. I'm married with children and can't bare the thought of losing my children or hurting my wife. I am a Christian and I know that God has created many differences in all of us (e.g., intersexed, autistic, siamese-twins, and so-on...). Reincarnation?? who knows, but I don't believe there is a cure unless I'm crazy.
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Medusa

Have someone some new experience ?
I want to try it, it could give some answers
IMVU: MedusaTheStrange
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Cen

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Vanora

I don't believe in reincarnation. I do believe that the human mind has sufficient sophistication to wire itself in many remarkably rich ways through varying combinations of genetic and environmental factors. And this complex wiring could easily account for GID.   Of course I can't discount the fact that Past Life Regression is a form of therapy and might have some value even it is is based on a rather controversial theory just because the patient is being introspective and coming to terms with what they believe, think, and feel.
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Julie Marie

Quote from: Jamiess on March 12, 2011, 01:10:28 PM
People are born with all kinds of abnormalities.

"Abnormality" is a term we use for "uncommon".  But in nature, "unique" is normal.  And therefore "identical" is abnormal and "very similar" isn't far behind.  Human society pressures people to conform and in doing so encourages likeness.  Identical is probably preferred by many.  So in reality, society is encouraging an abnormal condition.
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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cutehappyjackie

Quote from: Miniar on September 23, 2010, 02:27:22 PM
I believe in reincarnation.
Heck, I even believe one can carry things between lives to an extent.

But I do not believe one's gender is one of these things.

Nor do I put any faith in Past Life Regression as the methods it involve are highly dubious and geared to create "any, even if wrong" results. Meaning it more likely causes you to "recall" what you want to, rather than what was.
Not that you can eve "truly" remember what was anyway.
I do not believe it
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Jess42

The best book I have read on reincarnation and having to do with genders and explainations of reincarnation is Journey of Souls. I can't remember who the author was but I do know its on Amazon. No, its not a cure for GID other than assuring a person that they are completly normal and nothing is wrong with them. Since our Souls have male and female aspects we get comfortable incarnating physically in one or the other usually we stick with one specific gender. Eventually we have to incarnate the opposite physical gender that we aren't used to in order to learn. This could be why we have such dysphoria, a desire to be the the opposite of our birth gender, why we suffer so much depression and feelings that something isn't right because basically it isn't.
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aleon515

I'm not sick, so I don't need a CURE! I don't have GID, it's not even in the DSM anymore. But anyway GID or GD is just a short hand kind of social construct for something that society doesn't like all that well. If society accepted trans, I think there would still be trans people but there wouldn't be as much distress. (Look at the stats for accepting vs not accepting parents sometime.) So why would I need past lives (sounds a bit like a lot of new agie type ideas-- impossible to prove or disprove)?

--Jay
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