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Kara

The Desire For A Sex Change

Psychiatrist says sex-change surgery is a collaboration with a mental disorder, not a treatment.

By Richard P. Fitzgibbons, M.D.

How should the Catholic community respond to men and women who think that a person's sex change operation would solve their problem? Catholic teaching in this area is clear. It is impossible to "change" a person' sex. Hormone treatments, cosmetic surgery and surgery to mutilate the sex organs do not change a person' sex.

Confusion in this area has come about because people tend to defer to scientists, particularly in areas where their personal experience is limited. Therefore, when doctors, including those from the prestigious Johns Hopkins, have promoted "sex change" operations for physically normal men who believed they were really women trapped in men's bodies or women who believed they were men trapped in women's bodies, many have accepted the idea that it was indeed possible to change a person's sex.

In an article in First Things titled "Surgical Sex," Dr. Paul McHugh, of Johns Hopkins, laid out some of the history of the "sex change" phenomenon.1 From the beginning, McHugh had doubts. He interviewed the men for whom the surgeons had created bodies that appeared female, and found the claim that they were now women unconvincing. He states:

None of these encounters were persuasive...The post-surgical subjects struck me as caricatures of women. They wore high heels, copious makeup, and flamboyant clothing; they spoke about how they found themselves able to give vent to their natural inclinations for peace, domesticity, and gentleness--but their large hands, prominent Adam's apples, and thick facial features were incongruous (and would become more so as they aged). Women psychiatrists whom I sent to talk with them would intuitively see through the disguise and the exaggerated postures. "Gals know gals," one said to me, "and that's a guy."2

When he became psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins, McHugh decided to challenge what he considered to be a misdirection of psychiatry. He encouraged a study already begun on the outcomes of such surgeries. The study found that while most of the clients said they were happy with the outcome, the various psychological problems, which accompanied their feeling they were the other sex, remained unchanged. They still had the same difficulties with relationships, work and emotions.

McHugh concluded that "to provide a surgical alteration to the body of these unfortunate people was to collaborate with a mental disorder rather than to treat it."3 He ordered the practice halted at Johns Hopkins and tried to convince others that such interventions were a misuse of psychiatry and surgery. However, in spite of the evidence, the support for the idea of "sex change" operations has continued to grow. In fact, there have been several articles discussing whether it is advisable to begin the "sex change" process in adolescence or even before.4

McHugh was frustrated to find that those promoting the practice were not persuaded by empirical evidence:

One might expect that those who claim that sexual identity has no biological or physical basis would bring forth more evidence to persuade others. But as I've learned, there is a deep prejudice in favor of the idea that nature is totally malleable.

Without any fixed position on what is given in human nature, any manipulation of it can be defended as legitimate. A practice that appears to give people what they want--and what some of them are prepared to clamor for--turns out to be difficult to combat with ordinary professional experience and wisdom. Even controlled trials or careful follow-up studies to ensure that the practice itself is not damaging are often resisted and the results rejected.5

Each cell of a person's body contains chromosomes which identify that individual as either male or female. It is not simply a question of different genitals. Before birth prenatal hormones shape the brains of boys to be different than those of girls.6

Mutilating surgery and hormone treatments can create the appearance of a male or female body, but it cannot change the underlying reality. It is not possible to change a person's sex.

In promoting the truth about the human person, the Church is on the side of science when it proclaims that it is not possible to change a person's sex. Therefore, persons who claim to have had their sex changed may not marry or be ordained.7 A man who is surgically altered to resemble a woman may not marry a man and a woman with a male appearance may not be ordained a priest.

Unfortunately, the promotion of "sex change" operations has decreased investigation into prevention and therapy for those suffering from gender dysphoria. However, a number of mental health professionals work with and do help such individuals.

For example, in one case a Catholic, married man who had several children wanted to become female. He had completed electrolysis to remove facial hair and was on hormone treatment. As child he had been unable to model after his angry father, aggressive older brothers, or hostile boys in the neighborhood. He viewed men as angry, violent, dark people with whom he could not identify. Instead, he had escaped from what he perceived as the unsafe world of men, into a fantasy female world where he felt safe. As he matured, these fantasies diminished and he married and had children. However, at a certain point in his career he found himself in an extremely stressful situation both at work and at home, and his original fantasy about being more safe as a female reemerged.

In his therapeutic treatment, he came to understand the origins of his inability identify with his masculinity. Then he worked on forgiving the men and boys who had hurt him in his childhood and in his adolescence, especially his father and his brothers. In working with a spiritual director, he slowly came to experience God as loving father who could protect him, and to develop a relationship with St. Joseph as a role model of male love. A major goal of treatment was to help him see his own masculinity as a positive gift from God.

In another case, a thirty-year-old man with excellent athletic abilities was seeking "sex change" surgery. The therapist he consulted was able to help him uncover serious emotional conflicts with his mother. She was a self-centered person and a substance abuser who had essentially abandoned him as a child. Unconsciously, he thought that if he were a woman, he finally might receive his mother's love and acceptance. Because he had not experienced a comforting, loving mother/son relationship, his ability to trust and feel safe in the world was badly damaged. He thought that if he were a female he might feel protected in the world. As a result of his regular participation in a "transgender support group" (which was biased toward encouraging "sex change" procedures), he came to believe that there was a biological basis for his belief that he was female. It was extremely difficult for the young man to admit his problems with his mother, or to acknowledge his feelings of disappointment, sadness, and resentment. Eventually, through therapy, he was able to recognize the effects of his mother's dysfunction on his self-image.

Dealing with clients who have a desire to become the other sex, it is important not to take the desire at face value, but to uncover the emotional conflicts which has led them to think they would be happier, safer and more confident as the other sex. The recognition of emotional pain with peers or with a parent leads to the awareness of significant anger which can be resolved through a process of forgiveness.8 At the same time it is necessary to treat low self-esteem, poor body image, sadness and fears.

Many of those who seek surgical "sex change" suffered from untreated and undiagnosed gender identity disorder (GID) as children. For example, a therapist was consulted by a member of the family of a young woman who had told her parents that she wanted "sex change" surgery after graduating from college. Since childhood, the young woman had shown all the classic symptoms of GID.9 She had never had female friends, never wore a dress, never used make up, never wore jewelry or dated a boy. She also insisted that her Catholic parents address with a boy's name which they agreed to do.

GID in children is a treatable condition; however, according to Zucker and Bradley, who are experts in the treatment of this disorder in children, parental ambivalence is, in most cases part of the problem with parents ignoring or excusing obvious problems.10 Zucker and Bradley encourage early intervention, not simply to avoid a later desire for a "sex change" but to prevent the suffering, unhappiness, and isolation that children with GID experience. In the case of this young woman, the therapist recommended treatment of GID to the family member who asked for consultation, but this recommendation was never communicated to the parents. The young woman recently had her breasts removed.

The other conflicts in those who seek "sex change" surgery experience are a failure to embrace the goodness and beauty of their masculinity or femininity, hatred of their bodies, deep resentment with a parent or peer, childhood loneliness and sadness, rejection by peers of the same gender, intense fears of being betrayed and hurt, and a deep desire to be protected in the world. A less common conflict is seen in some boys and men who have powerful artistic and creative gifts, which lead them to experience a strong attraction to the beauty in the female world and to an identification with femininity. This artistic response can begin early in childhood and can lead to a desire to be female. In rare cases, a parent wants a child to be of the opposite sex, dresses and treats the child as being of the opposite sex and may even take the child to a "transgender support group."

Self-knowledge, forgiveness, skilled psychotherapy and good spiritual direction can all play a part in the healing process. Much more work needs to be done in this field. Parents, pediatricians and educators need to be able to recognize GID in children. Mental health professionals and priests should understand the origins of the condition, and know that successful treatment can occur in persons who come to them with the desire for a "sex change." Finally, professionals with positive experience in treating this problem need to share their expertise with others.

Richard P. Fitzgibbons, M.D.
www.maritalhealing.com
100 Four Falls Center, Suite 312
W. Conshohocken, PA 19428


Now, understand. She is not against me. She just states that she wants to make sure that I cover all basis in this. Yes, she is a Christian. Yes, so am I. I just don't see how this gets in the way.

This was my reply. Note: I was at work, rushed and felt horrible from out talk, the night previous.

read this. Though this person is well meaning, they are obviously
slanted. First of all, she was describing Transvestites and calling
them Transexual people. Any Medical professional with experience in
the field would know the difference between these. Then she attempts
to debunk accepted medical facts with scripture and opinion ("gals
know gals") Then attempts to seal it by describing two cases in which
it is found that the people clearly did not have GID. Then they go on
to talk about how transexuals don't really change sex. We all know
that. No one has ever claimed that. It is about living more
comfortably. Not changing definitions.

I can understand the theme of this article. It was not malicious,
just sloppy. Thank you, though. I am honest with my therapist. If it
is a case of misdirected emotions,  we will find out. I am not dead
set on this. I just know that I am not going to comprimise my
happiness or the chance of happiness for the sake of someone else's
idea of how the world should be. Sadly, it sounds like this person
cares more about that than the patient.

End.


I love that she is looking out for me but, she make me feel as if I am better off killing myself. Even stranger, I can't go back to that. I've tried all day. All the previous comfort that the though of death once provided is gone. It feels like I have gone so far with this that there is nowhere left to go but forward. I feel horrible but resolute, if that makes any sense.

It is just that articles like this and talking to my mother makes me think of the worst looking non-passing TSs that I have ever seen or heard about. It scares me. I kind of feel trapped. The AC being broken is not helping things.

Sorry for the length.
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HelenW

Kara,

It pains me when I see religiously slanted articles whose purpose is to deny accepted fact in favor of dogma.  In my opinion, Paul McHugh is a narrow minded catholic zealot whose frustration over not being able "cure" transsexuals through his own area of expertise, psychology, manifests itself in his denial of our true experience.  In that article in "First Things" - an openly pro-catholic/anti-LGBT publication - he uses stereotypes and unflattering descriptions of transpeople (who probably looked the way they did because of the old insistence that they exhibit "true" feminine characteristics before they even got hormones >:( ) to make his points, ignoring the greater majority of trans people who go on after transition to lead happer and more fulfilling lives.

An interesting point about his article: (it can be read in its entirety here: http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=398_blank) is that he goes on to talk about intersexed babies and how surgery should not be done before they can tell us what gender they are because gender cannot be changed!  He apparently negates the first portion of the article completely with the second.

It seems to me that many in the medical community have this way of thinking, "If we can't find a physical cause, it MUST be psychological."  They never seem to consider that they might not be able to find a physical cause because they're not smart, educated, or knowledgeable enough to find it.  This is the kind of arrogance that McHugh demonstrates very plainly.  Apparently this Dr. Fitzgibbons feels the same way.  He would have us suffer and kill ourselves while he and his ilk work on finding a "cure" when relatively simple medical procedures can and do provide us with ease from the cruel suffering of gender dysphoria.  I have nothing but contempt for people like that. [/rant]

meine zwei pfennig,
Emelye
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Jonie

I don't know what religion endorses views against all the variations of sexual identity. More likely this is a case of some people having these views already and distorting religion to further their own agenda. When I was first faced with this issue I ran to the nearest Pastor and discussed my sexual identity with him. At the time a psychologist had me believing that being transsexual was akin to having a hermaphrodite brain. I asked the Pastor what the Bible had to say about that, he said that he had read the Bible cover to cover fifteen times and there's nothing in there about that.
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Nero

I just grabbed the waste basket. I think I'm gonna puke.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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AnnieE

Not being mean or anything but doesn't the bible want us all stoned to death?
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Manyfaces

Despite his affiliation with a prestigious university, which may make him appealing as an "expert" to the uninformed, Paul McHugh is widely known as being an iconoclastic and ultra-conservative psychiatric rabble-rouser, and his views on many things--gender issues (as reflected in the quotes in the article posted), assisted suicide (utterly wrong), multiple personality disorder (doesn't exist), etc.--are not consistent with those of the larger community of mental health professionals. 

(And I'm not one, I've just come across stuff about McHugh in other contexts from time to time.)

I'm also reading John Colapinto's book, As Nature Made Him, about the boy who was (disastrously) raised as a girl after his penis was burned off in a botched circumcision, and there's an interesting chapter near the end of the book that discusses McHugh, and his attitudes about all this, and how he singlehandedly made it his mission to stop sex reassignments from happening at Johns Hopkins, believing that transsexualism could be "cured" with therapy.

Small comfort maybe, but aside from the issue of being naturally upset that your mother would send this to you, it's good to consider the source, and remember that it's just one very narrow and stupid view of things.
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Kate

I only got as far as "How should the Catholic community respond..." before all credibility was lost. The Catholic community is perfectlly welcome to their views, but it's worrisome when they present religious dogma as scientific fact.

~Kate~
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Nero

Quote from: Jonie on June 28, 2007, 10:18:34 PM
I don't know what religion endorses views against all the variations of sexual identity. More likely this is a case of some people having these views already and distorting religion to further their own agenda. When I was first faced with this issue I ran to the nearest Pastor and discussed my sexual identity with him. At the time a psychologist had me believing that being transsexual was akin to having a hermaphrodite brain. I asked the Pastor what the Bible had to say about that, he said that he had read the Bible cover to cover fifteen times and there's nothing in there about that.

Very good point. Not only is there nothing about transsexuality in the Bible, but it clearly states that God is neither man nor woman, and there is no gender in heaven. So, according to their own religion, God doesn't care about gender. Why would He take issue with someone choosing to live in the gender they are comfortable in?
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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TheBattler

Quote from: Kate on June 28, 2007, 10:48:17 PM
I only got as far as "How should the Catholic community respond..." before all credibility was lost. The Catholic community is perfectlly welcome to their views, but it's worrisome when they present religious dogma as scientific fact.

~Kate~


LOL - Thats how I feel.

Alice
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Susan

I think this covers us.

For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's
womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men:
and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the
kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him
receive it. -- Matthew 19:12
Susan Larson
Founder
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Nero

Quote from: Susan on June 29, 2007, 12:40:01 AM
I think this covers us.

For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's
womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men:
and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the
kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him
receive it. -- Matthew 19:12
Yeah I think it does. It's saying that those who have had modifications of the sex organs can enter the kingdom of heaven. Thanks Susan. :)
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Keira


Me, the paragraph, makes me want to leave "my gentleness and domesticity" (sic) and go slice the guy in two with my claws... But... I wouldn't want him to get the wrong impression of me...  So, I'll go and pee on his good sofa instead; am I not the nicest of wildcats...  ;)
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Kara


Yeah, the article left me alot angrier than I sounded but I was trying to be civil since there was no malice on my mother's part. Thanks for telling me all of this. Thought this guy was slanted, now I know.

Also, I have never found a link between TS and damnation. I think most people's problem with it has more to do with the idea of sexual perversion that the average christian has about everything that was not in little house on the prarie.
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louise000

Sorry, after years of soul searching I recently decided to give up on religion. This just makes me feel I was right to do so.
Louise
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Fiona

Quote from: Kara on June 28, 2007, 07:39:56 PM
The Desire For A Sex Change

...

Each cell of a person's body contains chromosomes which identify that individual as either male or female. It is not simply a question of different genitals. Before birth prenatal hormones shape the brains of boys to be different than those of girls.


There is no part of the human body which is not subject to error during development. If you believe that brain gender is normally assigned during gestation then you surely must admit that that process may go wrong sometimes.
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Mia and Marq

The only way to really combat this sort of thing is for every narrow-minded slanted article like this we get atleast one or more positive progressive article out there. Eventually the best we can hope for is people get a chance to read one of the positive articles to counteract the misinformation articles.

Power to the peoples!

-Us
Being given the gift of two-spirits meant that this individual had the ability to see the world from two perspectives at the same time. This greater vision was a gift to be shared, and as such, Two-spirited beings were revered as leaders, mediators, teachers, artists, seers, and spiritual guides
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Melissa-kitty

The most discouraging thing about psychiatry is how some use their role for self-aggrandizement, for aggressive purposes, or even baser purposes. Dr. McHugh is not in the mainstream of mental health professionals in sexology. He has had a distinguished career, however. His comments seem callous, dismissive, and disparaging. Not the profession at it's best, and certainly unworthy of Dr. McHugh's leadership role.
It bothers me to read things from "The Catholic perspective". Science and compassion do not know sectarian conflicts. There is no Muslim physics, no special Russian form of caring.
You are approaching her letter with heart and head. Good job!
Tara
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tinkerbell

Quote from: Christi90 on June 30, 2007, 01:15:44 PM
... I just wish Catholics could admits God screwed up our sex....

It took a while to understand this, but now I consider my transsexuality a blessing, not a mistake from God.

tink :icon_chick:
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Manyfaces

Quote from: Tink on June 30, 2007, 02:08:20 PM
Quote from: Christi90 on June 30, 2007, 01:15:44 PM
... I just wish Catholics could admits God screwed up our sex....

It took a while to understand this, but now I consider my transsexuality a blessing, not a mistake from God.

tink :icon_chick:

You'll never get anywhere trying to convince anyone who maintains that kind of concept about God that God makes mistakes, or that God screwed up your sex. 

I prefer to think of it as a simple empirical truth:  Nature produces anomalies, and nobody really knows why, but no one can deny that it happens.  It makes kittens with six toes, babies with defective hearts and missing brains, freakishly shaped tomatoes, etc.  It also produces beautiful anomalies, sometimes.

I'm a firm believer in the principle that all adversity can ultimately be both transformed, and transformative, and yes, can prove to be a blessing and a gift.  It's not always easy to get to this point, and maybe impossible for some people with some things, but it's proven true for me in my life, in many ways, and I don't expect this to be any different.
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Elizabeth

As soon as I read the first line and realized the article was really about denying the reality of transsexualism, I lost interest. I knew what it was going to say. I don't need to read it. You know the worst part of my life has not been being transsexual. It has been the guilt and shame put on me by religious zealot's who convinced me early on that I was a sinner. That my inability to accept being a boy made me a bad person.

I refuse to accept or read any more of that dogma. I know it's wrong.

Love always,
Elizabeth
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