Well if you think about the rest of the animal kingdom (and then think of plants), transgender is pretty normal. It's human society where it might not be. As I heard someone say "Nature loves diversity, humans not so much."


--Jay

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 27, 2013, 04:50:08 AM
Another thing that's weird is being born with blond hair and blue eyes. After all, the vast majority of the human species has black hair and brown eyes, so surely black hair & brown eyes are normal and people who don't have those characteristics are weird? Well, aren't we?

It's actually quite difficult to be born with blond hair & blue eyes: the genes for dark hair & eyes are dominant so you need to inherit two sets of the appropriate genes, one from each parent, in order to be born with blond hair & blue eyes. This is what's commonly known as 'recessive traits' or 'recessive genes'.

My father had black hair & brown eyes. My mother had brown hair & blue eyes. So for me to be born with blond hair & blue eyes, I had to inherit those genes from two parents who didn't show any outward signs of having them. So am I weird? Am I a mutant? Am I an X-Man (god, I hope so - I could do with some superpowers!).

Or are our less-common characteristics - such as blond hair, or being one of identical twins, or being transsexual - merely interesting examples of the incredible variety of the human species?

Aren't humans amazing? 

Neither of my parents have blue eyes but both of my grandmothers do, so apparently blue eyes are not the only long shot bet that I won.

Why does it matter if trans people are "weird" or not?

Most of us want nothing better than to be seen as normal people, and even though we are becoming a more tolerant and accepting society I doubt we will ever be seen as normal by most people, but being normal is overrated.

I'm pretty sure I would be a weird person even if I wasn't trans.

Quote from: xchristine on June 26, 2013, 06:17:23 PM
Tristan I LOLed and almost spit out my candy!!!

What if I don't want to be an x men ..I want to be the
6million dollar bionic woman with a bionic vag


Don't worry....we have the technology to rebuild her!!!

Nope you Gadda be a x men or you Gadda be a pony

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 27, 2013, 04:50:08 AM
Another thing that's weird is being born with blond hair and blue eyes. After all, the vast majority of the human species has black hair and brown eyes, so surely black hair & brown eyes are normal and people who don't have those characteristics are weird? Well, aren't we?

Well i must be unimaginably weird then Trans, blond, Blue eyes, Left handed Ohh and i dont like baked beans(not sure that one really counts). 

Quote from: Shannon1979 on June 27, 2013, 06:41:57 PM
Well i must be unimaginably weird then Trans, blond, Blue eyes, Left handed Ohh and i dont like baked beans(not sure that one really counts). 

You're like a unicorn <3

Yes it is!!!

I'm sorry but if none thinks that changing ones sex is not a weird thing...then I am alone.

Now what is the definition of weird: strange; unusual; peculiar

Does the general population really know what a transsexual, transgendered, MTF FTM, gender variant........really is??...No=unusual (not including Seattle and San Francisco)

Does a large percentage of people change their sex??...No=unusual

Is a large percentage of the population transgendered??...No=peculiar

Well sounds like we are as weird as people that have many tattoos or piercings or a man that figure skates, is a ballet dancer or a woman that is a truck driver, or a garbage hauler.

Many people may classify these people as weird...I know when I see someone who's face look like a fishing lure because of all their piercings... I may think their weird....but that's me not them. If they thought they were weird for the same reasons then something is wrong!

I think the human condition overall is kinda weird.

Hmmm what meaning of pony first of all??

I've heard of men refer to woman as a pony...

I do like bionoc woman more though.

    ...

Quote from: Naomi on June 27, 2013, 06:52:53 PM
You're like a unicorn <3

not sure i would look to good with a horn growing out of my forehead though. And i forgot to mention im double jointed as well.

If you recorded a stranger for an entire day, without them knowing, you'd see things that'd freak anyone out. People are all weird.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm sane. That's how weird I can be. I bet everyone here has those moments though. We're all just a bunch of freaks, even that quaint little housewife down the street.

The universe's existence trumps all in regards to weirdness. And here we are, irrelevant bits of lint on the infinite universalscape of time and space pondering existential questions and what makes something weird. That's weird.

Well, speaking for myself, I think the whole experience of being transgender is absolutely bizarre.

I look male, sound male, act male, am treated as male, have a wife, am a father, do all sorts of things that seem archetypally male and yet I have an absolute, bone-deep, unshakeable conviction that something is terribly, terribly wrong and that I could only be the true expression of myself as a woman.

It has taken me decades to get my head round that idea. So if other transgendered people find it weird, I understand. And if even the kindest, most tolerant, liberal, broad-minded, decent people I know - the kind who will always absolutely stick by me and have my back, no matter what happens - find it impossible to imagine what it would be like to doubt something as fundamental as the gender they were born with, frankly I don't blame them.

That's not to say that we are freaks, or that we deserve to be hated (least of all by ourselves), or that any kind of ignorance or discrimination is acceptable. It's just to accept that this is a very unusual, and in many ways inexplicable situation to be in. So, yeah, it's weird.

PS: To Nicolette and others ... Of course you're right: the whole concept of us tiny little creatures in a minuscule planet in a universe of a hundred billion galaxies is mindblowingly weird on a scale that a little gender dysphoria here or there doesn't even begin to match! 

Weird?

Nah, I'm awesome.

Weird is for people who cannot accept people for being people.

I'm Cindy and if you have met me, you realize that weird isn't an adjective that even belongs in my descriptive repertoire!


Hee Heee

Cindy

Quote from: Nicolette on June 28, 2013, 05:44:15 AM
The universe's existence trumps all in regards to weirdness. And here we are, irrelevant bits of lint on the infinite universalscape of time and space pondering existential questions and what makes something weird. That's weird.

Yes

It's just the norms which encase our social expectations that make us perceive something as weird, or weirder than another thing. If an alien came to earth, we'd all be equally weird to them. Mwahaha.

We'd all die. Without discrimination. The trans people would go. The basketball players would go. The priests would go. The serial killers would go. The naughty school girls would go. All of us would go! 

Quote from: Cindy. on June 28, 2013, 05:54:52 AM

Weird is for people who cannot accept people for being people.

Well, I guess a lot of this comes down to what 'weird' means. To me it doesn't have to have a negative connotation - maybe that's a British thing: we're generally less phased by people being different to the norm than, say, Middle America (or suburban Australia?) has traditionally been. So something or someone can be weird-but-great. Just think of all the androgynous rock stars that have come sashaying out of England over the decades, and all the drag-wearing Monty Python-esque comedians!

To me 'weird' just means something that's both unusual and a little mysterious - something inexplicable. Like, 'I just had a really weird feeling' ... and my experience of dysphoria has been that it's a very weird feeling indeed.

Quote from: Shannon1979 on June 28, 2013, 05:25:40 AM
not sure i would look to good with a horn growing out of my forehead though. And i forgot to mention im double jointed as well.

hey, someone who's double-jointed and a lefite! Hi-five!

Personally, I like being who I am. I'm a minority race, I have a tendency to freak people out with how morbid I can get, and I'm a guy at heart. I think there's no such thing as being weird, because everyone is weird, if you think about it hard enough ;P We all have a standard of what is normal, but even then, we can't pinpoint what would truly be normal. if anything, if we were normal, we would literally just be rocks. And that's no fun, huh?

In life *everything* is weird when u think about it enough.  X

All weirdness is relative. Take an Amazon native from a tribe who has never encountered the modern world and drop them into Piccadilly Circus. Tell me that they're not going to go WTF! Take yourself off into their tribe for a week and not freak out because of the 'weird' goings-on. The more you live, the more worldly you become, the less is the weirdness.

Quote from: Nicolette on June 28, 2013, 08:23:06 AM
All weirdness is relative. Take an Amazon native from a tribe who has never encountered the modern world and drop them into Piccadilly Square. Tell me that they're not going to go WTF! Take yourself off into their tribe for a week and not freak out because of the 'weird' goings-on. The more you live, the more worldly you become, the less is the weirdness.

Hey!!! If that isolated tribe made hooch....I would be leading the
Singing and dancing around the fire. .
And use war paints for make up and have a grass dress...

Oh...wait....I'll just be an Indian...tried to be wierd