Quote from: Christinaaaa on June 23, 2013, 01:56:07 AM
I am for sure non op. I'm with you there.also I'm attracted to females so keeping my down stairs will be pretty useful lol

FYI, if you plan on going on HRT it could affect your ability to achieve an erection and/or penetrate a woman.

Yea. Im expecting that. But ive heard viagra will help if I need it. Im good with my tongue yho so either way is fine 

I have started to wonder, but not really by choice, it is the sheer expense and my financial circumstances

but if your choices are, accept the life you are trapped in or  jump off a bridge - what are you going to do? 

Quote from: vegie271 on July 07, 2013, 09:19:28 PM


I have started to wonder, but not really by choice, it is the sheer expense and my financial circumstances

but if your choices are, accept the life you are trapped in or  jump off a bridge - what are you going to do? 

Lets not jump off any bridges.  Its important to accept the fact that you are already beautiful right now.  Whether surgery happens or not.

Quote from: dr girlfriend on July 08, 2013, 10:39:53 AM
Lets not jump off any bridges.  Its important to accept the fact that you are already beautiful right now.  Whether surgery happens or not.

My main problem is the realisation that I will be alone forever because of this, if I was straight I could probably find a guy, some don't mid it, but there is not a lesbian in the world that would date me this way.

Not true!  We have many pre-op/non-op members here who have found partners.  I won't say it is easy, but I will say it is not impossible.

Quote from: Jamie D on July 09, 2013, 01:29:20 PM
Not true!  We have many pre-op/non-op members here who have found partners.  I won't say it is easy, but I will say it is not impossible.

OK, I am curious, I have been in a area for 6 years and have been working with people very much not one person has shown any interest, I have also been online and all I have attracted are Male ->-bleeped-<-s and scam artists  (that is right I am new here but I have been full time for quite a while)

any hints

Quote from: vegie271 on July 09, 2013, 01:26:12 PM

Quote from: dr girlfriend on July 08, 2013, 10:39:53 AM
Lets not jump off any bridges.  Its important to accept the fact that you are already beautiful right now.  Whether surgery happens or not.

My main problem is the realisation that I will be alone forever because of this, if I was straight I could probably find a guy, some don't mid it, but there is not a lesbian in the world that would date me this way.

Why do you say this? Like Jamie said, yeah, it's not easy but certainly not impossible. Sure, there are lesbians who'll reject you based on pre/non-op status but not all of them will. A good friend of mine dated a lesbian and she was pre-everything. There are people who look past the physical.

Quote from: Fitter Admin on July 09, 2013, 02:15:56 PM



My main problem is the realisation that I will be alone forever because of this, if I was straight I could probably find a guy, some don't mid it, but there is not a lesbian in the world that would date me this way.




Why do you say this? Like Jamie said, yeah, it's not easy but certainly not impossible. Sure, there are lesbians who'll reject you based on pre/non-op status but not all of them will. A good friend of mine dated a lesbian and she was pre-everything. There are people who look past the physical.

Like I said I have been here for six years, I have been full time, among lesbians who have known me, not one would ever consider dating me, only a few will disrespect me - but not a single one would ever consider dating me - and I have been on dating sites for all of these years all that has happened is I have found 6 people who have tried to scam me out of money or I have had men "->-bleeped-<-s" come after me. I have even been on pay sites

Plus, what about bisexual women? There are more bi women out there than lesbians, and presumably being non-op wouldn't be a problem for many of them.

Quote from: brainiac on July 09, 2013, 06:13:14 PM
Plus, what about bisexual women? There are more bi women out there than lesbians, and presumably being non-op wouldn't be a problem for many of them.

Every bi woman I have ever met was married, don't know how it goes in your area.

My last partner came right out of left field, she was an apparently straight woman I'd known for a while. I was the first woman she'd ever been with and she concluded that perhaps she should have taken the option much sooner..

Quote from: vegie271 on July 09, 2013, 07:07:18 PM



Every bi woman I have ever met was married, don't know how it goes in your area.

How about a transgender woman? 

Quote from: dr girlfriend on July 10, 2013, 09:58:45 AM
How about a transgender woman?

I know most of them in my area, most of them like men - the only other one who likes womyn is

1) too busy

B) doesn't seem very interested in me

iii) extremely messy, bad relationship material - I have been involved with someone like this before

4) not interested in anyone who is pre-op/non-op (I know sort of ironic)

Quote from: vegie271 on July 09, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
Every bi woman I have ever met was married, don't know how it goes in your area.

That's unfortunate! Have you checked out online dating sites? I think it'd be easier to find single bi women there, since the label is upfront.

Quote from: Miss Bungle on July 10, 2013, 12:27:16 PM
I thought I was going to eventually have GRS at some point in the future, until the cold, harsh reality smacked me in the face. I would just be chasing something that I could never have. Sure, a lot of people will say "you can make sacrifices if you want something bad enough" but I don't really have much to sacrifice in the first place (unless I wanted to move back in with my parents to save up some money and there was NO WAY IN HELL I was going down that road...no way!)

So, I was eventually faced with three options: A: Keep on a full HRT regimen for the rest of my life, which I didn't want to do.  B:Detransition and be miserable and eventually give in and kill myself. or C: Have an orchi done and just go on with my life.

I chose option C since it (obviously) made the most sense. Things have been okay for the most part (other than the very rare bouts of GID induced depression that still linger even though I feel I have it pretty much beat. I just see it as "residual depression).

Good choice Miss Bungle, I'm on the same page as you!

Quote from: brainiac on July 10, 2013, 11:53:51 AM
That's unfortunate! Have you checked out online dating sites? I think it'd be easier to find single bi women there, since the label is upfront.

Bunch of them, I curently have profiles on OKCupid, Lesbotronic and TSDating, I have had profiles on about 6 other sites also. I get a lot of men coming after me and I have been scammed and several people try to scam me but I have learned to recognize the signs now fairly early.

Quote from: Miss Bungle on July 10, 2013, 12:27:16 PM
I thought I was going to eventually have GRS at some point in the future, until the cold, harsh reality smacked me in the face. I would just be chasing something that I could never have. Sure, a lot of people will say "you can make sacrifices if you want something bad enough" but I don't really have much to sacrifice in the first place (unless I wanted to move back in with my parents to save up some money and there was NO WAY IN HELL I was going down that road...no way!)

So, I was eventually faced with three options: A: Keep on a full HRT regimen for the rest of my life, which I didn't want to do.  B:Detransition and be miserable and eventually give in and kill myself. or C: Have an orchi done and just go on with my life.

I chose option C since it (obviously) made the most sense. Things have been okay for the most part (other than the very rare bouts of GID induced depression that still linger even though I feel I have it pretty much beat. I just see it as "residual depression).

I am wondering about this myself, parents not an option at all, they disowned me when I came out at 23 way back. and I am not welcome in their home.

and I simply am not able to pay for SRS. so C seems the forced option.

I'm non-op for several reasons. Besides cost I don't think I would be satisfied to have a faint visage of a real vagina. Other factors include maintenance issues as well as the fact that even though I'm not particularly attached to my penis I don't mind using it for sexual pleasure at all. Quite frankly I'll be happy enough to have a feminine appearance from the effects of HRT, my biggest concern really is my lack of hips and breasts. I do have some doubts as to how this will affect my love life though since I identify as trans-lesbian I'm sure my genitalia will put off some of my dating pool. I don't see myself changing my mind about this in the future.

Quote from: Emoroffle on July 17, 2013, 04:47:38 PM
I'm non-op for several reasons. Besides cost I don't think I would be satisfied to have a faint visage of a real vagina. Other factors include maintenance issues as well as the fact that even though I'm not particularly attached to my penis I don't mind using it for sexual pleasure at all. Quite frankly I'll be happy enough to have a feminine appearance from the effects of HRT, my biggest concern really is my lack of hips and breasts. I do have some doubts as to how this will affect my love life though since I identify as trans-lesbian I'm sure my genitalia will put off some of my dating pool. I don't see myself changing my mind about this in the future.

for me it is entirely a cost matter