Has anyone heard of gender dysphora going away without transition?  I recently heard of someone who went on mood stabilizers, and after a while ended up feeling like the gender they were born as.  How can this happen?  Would that mean there could someday be a choice for transgender people to either transition or take a pill to just be okay with their assigned sex?

Can you provide a source for this information?

It sounds like they probably had problems other than body dysphoria. However, I don't know your source, so it's probably best to find out their particular situation yourself.

Not all transgendered people need to medically transition to be happy. Transitioning is currently a choice, being trans isn't. Some people need top/bottom surgery, hormones, and anything else. Some need only hormones, or any combination of to make themselves feel content.

I imagine if somebody was trans, had other mental issues, and wasn't that dysphoric about their body- mood stabilizers might make them feel better if their mental issues were exacerbating their dysphoria. Who knows, everybody is different and has different needs. There will never be a pill to address this variation.

I could also be that the dosage is a little high and they are simply to zombied to care..

I don't have a source because it was just a person saying that happened to them, not a medical study or anything.  They were FTM and had been on hormones for a long time and had top surgery (no clue about anything else) and they were finally at a place where they were happy-ish with their body... then they were put on the mood stabilizers, and ended up feeling like a woman... but they didn't get dysphoria again and want to transition back, they just felt like a woman instead of a man. 

I've been on an antidepressant which made me all numb and not caring... so maybe that is it.

I have talked to a few people in the service and others in medicine that said there's did when they found a outlet to occupy there time

It sounds like this person had pretty much transitioned. For me, once I had T and top surgery all my dysphoria pretty much vanished. I'm sort of at a place where I almost don't even care about gender or what gender I am anymore. I don't want to de-transition or anything but I sometimes wonder what was so bad about living as a female. I don't 'feel like a woman' or anything but sometimes I wish I could have just been happy that way. But this is all after my primary source of dysphoria is gone - the secondary sex characteristics.

Honestly, I wonder if I've developed a similar outlook to many cis people. Ever hear cispeople say stuff like 'gender doesn't matter', 'it's all social roles', 'I wouldn't care if I was the opposite sex', 'I'd have a blast as a woman/man'?
Well, some things really were easier/better as female (like banging people without explanations) and vice versa.
Basically, if you take the dysphoria away, you can end up with someone who just doesn't give a...

Quote from: Nyri on July 14, 2013, 07:21:39 PM
Has anyone heard of gender dysphora going away without transition?  I recently heard of someone who went on mood stabilizers, and after a while ended up feeling like the gender they were born as.  How can this happen?  Would that mean there could someday be a choice for transgender people to either transition or take a pill to just be okay with their assigned sex?

About 20 years ago a dude show up at the emergency room demanding an SRS. When family members were interviewed no evidence of any transness was discover. The man had been a perfectly hetero male.

For the next three days he continued with his demand for an SRS, however in the morning of the fourth day all desires for a vagina had evaporated and the chagrined may was released.

So, what had happened is that this poor men had opened  a cold inhaler (Vick-Vap-O-Rub) and smoked its contents.

How did the inhale combusted products change his gender identity? Nobody knows but the fact remains that drugs and trauma can change your personality and even you gender..LOL

Dr. Peky

Quote from: peky on July 14, 2013, 08:39:23 PM
About 20 years ago a dude show up at the emergency room demanding an SRS. When family members were interviewed no evidence of any transness was discover. The man had been a perfectly hetero male.

For the next three days he continued with his demand for an SRS, however in the morning of the fourth day all desires for a vagina had evaporated and the chagrined may was released.

So, what had happened is that this poor men had opened  a cold inhaler (Vick-Vap-O-Rub) and smoked its contents.

How did the inhale combusted products change his gender identity? Nobody knows but the fact remains that drugs and trauma can change your personality and even you gender..LOL

Dr. Peky

Maybe I should try that so I'll be really happy with a vagina.  Don't worry, I'm not entirely serious, and I won't smoke (and probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to) viks.  Sometimes I just think it would be awesome to be happy with what I was born with. 

Quote from: Nyri on July 14, 2013, 09:02:13 PM
Maybe I should try that so I'll be really happy with a vagina.  Don't worry, I'm not entirely serious, and I won't smoke (and probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to) viks.  Sometimes I just think it would be awesome to be happy with what I was born with.

Can't you just be really happy with your ear or thumbs instead?
I mean, think of this rationally. You can have T as your drug of choice, or some sort of far more dangerous hallucinogen. Drugs in any form are expensive, so you probably won't be able to get both. And also bare in mind that if you go the 'drugged up 'till you don't give a f-' route, that you gain resistance to the drug and will need more and more... and on top of that, you won't be able to find a job.

I learned ways to control mine and even at times bury it completely.  when buried though so much as to not even think about it caused a host of other distresses that i ended up simply calling my chaos.   i think it is possible to control it to a degree but not get rid of it completely.   at times when i had it under control i would treat it like a second personality granted i never took that literally or have DID in anyway shape or form but for some reason treating my dysphoria this way allowed me to be comfortable sort of an agreement with myself.  to that end now that i am transitioning and know who i am i have tried to come to a similar agreement during a 3 month break ffrom hormones and simply could not bottle up my dysphoria.  so in summary i think dysphoria can change but not go away and even relative comfort can be found with dysphoria that one can live and even be happy without transition.  although transitioning will still bring more happiness suppose we are all simply maximizing our happiness. 

Quote from: Nyri on July 14, 2013, 07:21:39 PM
Has anyone heard of gender dysphora going away without transition?  I recently heard of someone who went on mood stabilizers, and after a while ended up feeling like the gender they were born as.  How can this happen?  Would that mean there could someday be a choice for transgender people to either transition or take a pill to just be okay with their assigned sex?

Kia Ora Nyri,

Back in the early 1970s I saw a psychiatrist who  prescribed Valium ( diazepam) for my anxiety/panic attacks,( one acid trip too many-blew my mind wide open-I wasn't fully prepared for what was lurking inside) the psychiatrist said I would be on this  tranquiliser for the rest of my life...I ended up on mother's little helper, on and off for 20 odd years...

On Valium I became less self-conscious of my actions, mannerism and behaviour which seemed to create a feeling/sense of "gender neutrality" and having a male birth-sex (but with a somewhat natural physical androgynous appearance) I managed to adopted a male role...

Over the 20 odd years, I had my ups and downs, especially when I thought I was "well" enough to stop taking them for a while...

But then one day curiosity did get the better of me, I stopped taking them altogether and  the s*** hit the fan big time... Coming out of the Valium induced dream-like state, I had to face reality (and in my case "Reality was for those people who can't handle drugs"  ) ...

Once I learnt to fully embrace my true identity (free of Valium) the anxiety and panic attacks ( I once had on a regular bases) gradually subsided ...
This fear/mental anguish that had arisen in the past, I found was due to me not wanting people to see anything other than the male bodied person I was born as...

There's a lot more to my story than the above, however I think you can get the gist of what it's all about..That is Yes one can take drugs to neutralise/repress ones true identity, but somewhere along the line the 'truth' will eventually come 'out'...

I hope you find what it is you're looking for-which I guess is what all trans-people want "Inner peace"

I've found mine...

Metta Zenda

 I'd like to at least see dysphoria go away even with transition.

This person you heard about probably was experiencing body dysphoria that wasn't gender-related. People suffer from disjointed and emotionally painful body images from depression and anxiety all the time.

Sorry, this is just a hot-button issue for me as I experience body dysphoria that isn't related to my gender and I have had friends experience similar while suffering from untreated mental illness. Gender dysphoria is not the only kind out there, and TG people aren't limited to experiencing just that kind either. grr!!

As for gender dysphoria going away on its own, I have no idea. I don't generally experience it to any distressing extent, but I've only ever heard of coping strategies, not transition-less cures.

AAAAANYthing can 'go away' given the right conditions, or seem to go away.

I regularly experience my disability 'go away' when I haven't gone out and done anything physical for a while.

If I haven't used my wood working tools for a month or more, and have not gone for any long walks for a week or more, I can actually get to thinking I am really just a lazy bum and not genuinely disabled with fybromyalgia.

Of course, 3 straight days of wood working usually snaps that illusion real nicely. Nothing like severe pain to remind you why you haven't worked for so long you have forgotten what it feels like.

My dysphoria, if it exists at all, is more noticeable in the summer.
Because in the winter, I am not miserable for being unable to go swimming in a proper swimsuit.
In the winter I am not constantly miserable that I can't wear short shorts like the young girls.
In the winter I can wear my leather jacket, and I am more inclined to like wearing nice warm pants, so I am not focused on wishing I could wear nice sun dresses or skirts and get some sun on my legs.
In the winter, I am more likely to want to wear a hat, or hood over my head, so being constantly reminded of my lousy hair loss is lower.
In the winter, I am more likely to be ok with being home indoors and not out in public.
In the winter, the days are shorter so I am less able to spend long days miserable.

Conditions will always be variable, and dysphoria is not immune to conditions.

And dysphoria can always come back big and bad and nasty, or not.
I would likely be happier if I lived on a research base in Antarctica where clothing was buried under a parka.

I also likely would be happier if I was drugged up on antidepressants. Been there, didn't like being always wanting to sleep and all the rest of the usual 'some side effects may be......' I will be taking a big step for me personally indeed to go on HRT just because of my loathing medicine.

Well I really don't know the answer but I guess it's pretty much like being trans in that no two people are the same. I was prescribed clonazapam for a little while until I had to stop due to safety stuff and my real job. I have never been bad dysphoric and the clonazapam didn't contribute to or quell the dysphoria. I was just as trans on it as I was off of it. But it did give me a lot more confidence around groups of people to be me though.

Quote from: Kelly the Trans-Rebel on July 14, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
I could also be that the dosage is a little high and they are simply to zombied to care..

^ This.

During the Maryland Senate hearing's over the past two years on the TG rights bills I heard testimony from the opposition. Among them were several "cured" TG's, a couple that even went full-time for several years. (BTW testimony filled with anger and hate)

For a good 30 years I relied on my 3D's; Diversions, Distractions, and Denial to bury my dysphoria. This is after two aborted experiments at transitioning in my 20's. Buried, but not dead. I did rely on the occasional cross-dressing escape. Even those stopped thanks to overwhelming myself with work.

Did it "stop" my dysphoria  - Kinda sorta
Did it "cure" me - No
Did the dsphoria go away - No way

Yet, over the short term all of these could have been answered as yes.  All I proved is I am good at stuffing.