Just wanted to chime in here and say they are some of the most radical women I've ever met.  But they are just like normal women, (unless they don't chose to be, those are the best). I pretty much live with this radical girl now in the early stages of transitioning/hrt She gave me the confidence to not care about passing. She doesn't fret to much and is super honest with herself. She does what makes her happy. No shame.

She taught me to not care about passing. I'm 5'6, 110lbs. I wear skin tight size 0 womens black jeans, my hair is a long red undercut, and I wear emerald green contacts and i'm not even on T yet. I start in two days. But I don't get misgendered . I prefer gender neutral and male pronouns.  I used to get misgendered daily, NOT ANYMORE! She also taught me to see all the masculine features I naturally have, especially my eyes, jawline and chin. Never noticed it before. Now I see it daily. Feels good.

Pogopopez, that sounds like a pretty awesome friend to have. I think it would be great to have a friend to kinda transition with. Especially one that boosts your self confidence.

Just like cis ladies. Some are lovely and some are just awful.

Quote from: -Emily- on July 01, 2013, 05:12:51 PM
Me too I wanna know

Of course, you point out that women type a certain way, and they jump all over it!  Like starving dogs! Heheh..

Quote from: Joanna Dark on July 01, 2013, 07:28:35 PM
It's funny you should mention exclamation points. I am a magazine editor so I used to hatehatehate exclamation points because I saw them as lazy and someone using a crutch to get their point across. But lately I can't help myself at all! Prolly because i'm loads more enthusiastic about life. But I've always used smiley faces. Lots of em. hehehe

I actually was unaware that exclamation marks were a feminine thing, but that opens my eyes a little bit! Oh and smiley faces, and I don't care that it's disliked!  They aren't a replacement for sophisticated word usage, but they are nice to throw in every now and then! Or a lot, as the case may be with me... to which I noticed with a fellow transgirl I was talking to online, when I saw just how many times I did this: 

Maybe I was trying to lick them, I don't know!


  I will also state, when I first came to Susan's Place, I had this thought at the back of my head, wondering to myself, "Why do FtM want to be men?!" yeah yeah.. It's a stupid thought though, because dysphoria isn't female-specific, or nothing! I didn't understand FtMs, but now I think I do, and most importantly, they're people like the rest of us. And oh boy, do they act a lot like my cis-guy friends. Which is to say, guyish and tiring to deal with at times! Just an understanding of how guys are, from looking at FtMs and my cis-guy friends, and my brother, I can sort of understand how the FtM boards are a bit more of a quiet place. There's been many discussions on why that is, probably, but guys just seem that way in general. 

If you like being that way, good for you, but it nearly makes me explode, that people expected me to act like that in real life!

Quote from: PepperedIssy on July 17, 2013, 11:33:45 AM
And oh boy, do they act a lot like my cis-guy friends. Which is to say, guyish and tiring to deal with at times! Just an understanding of how guys are, from looking at FtMs and my cis-guy friends, and my brother, I can sort of understand how the FtM boards are a bit more of a quiet place. There's been many discussions on why that is, probably, but guys just seem that way in general.

I have a transguy friend and oh my god he act so like a guy. I mean I know he is. The thing is that looking at him he has a really female body and even though he might kill me he is a really cute girl. He looks so small and sweet and then he opens his mouth and I am like "yep guy"

Quote from: PepperedIssy on July 17, 2013, 11:33:45 AM
  I will also state, when I first came to Susan's Place, I had this thought at the back of my head, wondering to myself, "Why do FtM want to be men?!" yeah yeah.. It's a stupid thought though, because dysphoria isn't female-specific, or nothing! I didn't understand FtMs, but now I think I do, and most importantly, they're people like the rest of us. And oh boy, do they act a lot like my cis-guy friends. Which is to say, guyish and tiring to deal with at times! Just an understanding of how guys are, from looking at FtMs and my cis-guy friends, and my brother, I can sort of understand how the FtM boards are a bit more of a quiet place. There's been many discussions on why that is, probably, but guys just seem that way in general. 

If you like being that way, good for you, but it nearly makes me explode, that people expected me to act like that in real life!

I haven't gone to an MTF support group, for obvious reasons, but I think the guy's group is a lot different (from what I've heard). There's a lot of really practical stuff and it is common to talk about packing and binding. This MTF friend of mine tells me that they don't so much talk about practical stuff.

Of course, one reason this group is quieter is just that there are a lot fewer of us. I've also noticed a lot of the guys only hang out here. And the ones who don't tend to be a little less binary. Not sure if that last thing is entirely true. Maybe it's just those of us who have been around MTFs more.

I took out your pink. Btw bookworm I'd suggest you wouldn't tell your friend that he looks like a girl.


--Jay

Quote from: Bookworm on July 17, 2013, 07:17:35 PM
I have a transguy friend and oh my god he act so like a guy. I mean I know he is. The thing is that looking at him he has a really female body and even though he might kill me he is a really cute girl. He looks so small and sweet and then he opens his mouth and I am like "yep guy"

I don't think that's a very respectful way to talk about your friend.  How do you think he'd feel if he saw you calling him a small, sweet, really cute girl?

Quote from: Pogopopez on July 16, 2013, 11:00:32 PM
Just wanted to chime in here and say they are some of the most radical women I've ever met.  But they are just like normal women, (unless they don't chose to be, those are the best). I pretty much live with this radical girl now in the early stages of transitioning/hrt She gave me the confidence to not care about passing. She doesn't fret to much and is super honest with herself. She does what makes her happy. No shame.

She taught me to not care about passing. I'm 5'6, 110lbs. I wear skin tight size 0 womens black jeans, my hair is a long red undercut, and I wear emerald green contacts and i'm not even on T yet. I start in two days. But I don't get misgendered . I prefer gender neutral and male pronouns.  I used to get misgendered daily, NOT ANYMORE! She also taught me to see all the masculine features I naturally have, especially my eyes, jawline and chin. Never noticed it before. Now I see it daily. Feels good.

I agree she sounds like a great friend to have. Likewise my girl friend. She doesn't seem to care either. She just says she wants to be the best kind of woman she can be. Sounds like a good thing to aspire to. Looks aren't really *anything*. They may matter to us materialistic humans. But they aren't what counts.

--Jay

Hmhm ^_^ This thread seems to have another one hiding inside it. (The differences in writing styles between genders, ) 

I'm a long time time writress ( Clever right?  ) and before I really knew I was female, I was always very proper about my writings and used all of the appropriate grammar and vocabulary and the like. I was also very very against texting or any sort of social media really. Acronyms like lol or omg annoyed me to the greatest. After reading a whole lot of books and taking some classes on creative writing, I started coming up with words like writress instead of writer, and doing things like making three words into one.
( I would have ---> I'd've  Not strictly against the rules of literature but a loophole for sure.  ) However I was still a foreigner to smileys and acronysms.

Then... I got a girlfriend. (dun dun DUN!) And so began the age of texting. After a few months of talking to her nonstop, I went back to trying to write stories and realized, I had the urge to put smileys everywhere!!!!! It was like my whole concept of literature had just turned from a beautiful sketching in pencil lead, to an explosion of pretty rainbows and crayons!! And now I've got myself fussing over which smiley to use.

It took a while, but I eventually learned how to separate my different writing styles for trivial communication, and formal literature. One thing's for sure though, I've certainly gotten a lot more creative. And I'm all for smileys now. Acronyms don't bother me anymore, but It's still rare for me to use them. (besides omg, sometimes I catch myself saying that one. Maybe it's because I live in Utah. (I'm not mormon!! So dan't ask. I'm so tired of being asked that question....(not that I have anything against mormons or mormonism but I'm just saying.. (...Three?...Four?!! omg!!)))) ...... (ahahahahahahahahahahaha xD ) ANYWAYS, I'm sure some of my writing is still pretty formal and not as girly as I might like it to be (maybe not this particular paragraph though. x) Go Parenthesis!! ) but I think that's probably more because I love writing and less because of any male likenesses left behind.

P.S. My vocabulary is still as colorful as ever! And I'm a lot more loquacious as of late.

I love forums. xD

With Passion, Maka (Former Literature Nerd)

Quote from: PepperedIssy on July 17, 2013, 11:33:45 AM
Of course, you point out that women type a certain way, and they jump all over it!  Like starving dogs! Heheh..

Watch out. You're gonna send me into heat!! Hmhm

Amorously, Totally innocent