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Wanting to have both a penis and vagina

Started by BaileyC, August 18, 2013, 01:24:29 AM

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BaileyC

I'm going to try to not make this too long, because I don't want to over-complicate things, but I feel as though I cannot fully feel like myself with only one sex organ. I am a transwoman, and for quite some time I have been considering the pros and cons of sex reassignment surgery, and it recently hit me that the main pros and cons of each would be that I would lose one sex organ and gain another. I have an equal desire for both a penis and a vagina, and I feel quite trapped right now because there doesn't seem to be much that I can do about it. My dysphoria has never been as unbearable as it has been since I have realized this. Has anyone here felt something similar to this?
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suzifrommd

Quote from: BaileyC on August 18, 2013, 01:24:29 AM
Has anyone here felt something similar to this?

I was at a talk given by one of the well-known SRS surgeons when someone asked him whether this was possible. He treated the speaker as a deviant, which resulted in my striking him from my list of possible surgeons (not that I would have asked him to do this, but I wish he had treated the questioner with respect and compassion).

I really want a vagina and a clitoris, but I also like what my penis can do for me and I don't really want someone to slice it up. I probably will get SRS anyway, because the thought of going through the rest of my life without a vagina is troubling.
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Murbella

I kinda feel similar, and doesn't help I've seen my share of hentai :angel:   I'm still evaluating myself to figure out what steps I want to go through to relieve my dysphoria.  Currently I'm thinking HRT but not SRS as I've always felt out of place as a male in society, but never really had any reason to dislike my penis other than it not fitting correctly into underwear and thus what I see  the mirror.  I still worry how limited the current procedures are, and I don't think I will even consider doing anything until technology allows the creation of a much more functional facsimile of the feminine anatomy.  That said, even if I could be given a fully functional female reproductive system, I would still feel the loss of the old one.  In my own head,  my genitalia is more of an extension of my sexual preference than my gender identity, and I am far more attracted to females.  I really love sex with my wife, but she has been with more women than I have which makes me jealous.  Not that she's had more partners, but that she has been able to have sex with a woman as a woman.  I really just want the ability to experience the female hardware.

.... well that's probably enough drunken rambling.

Hideyoshi

I BELIEVE that if you attempted to keep the penis, that not only would you have to cut many of the fibers in the gooch (for lack of a better word) that aide in penile function, but the entire vagina would have to be constructed with colon tissue (and maybe scrotal if you had an orchi), which would leave little to no sensation other than mental. 
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A

Oh, it would leave a lot of sensation. Bad sensation. Apparently a neo-vagina constructed from colon tissue feels like you're pooping if you... well. Not to mention that the procedure is infinitely more risky and complicated if it implies that sort of tissue.

Yeah no, in all practical terms, what you're saying is pretty much impossible. All current techniques, both for creating a penis (and those are even more limited) and for creating a vagina, base themselves mainly on the existing sexual organs. If you use the materials for one sexual organ and you want the other one too, then you need to be creative. THEORETICALLY I guess it would be possible to keep the penis and construct underneath it, where the scrotum was, a vaginal cavity. But without the penis's material, it would need to be sewn on both ends, which I'm pretty sure vastly complicates healing and care, AND you'd need to take the skin from elsewhere. The safest available option is probably to take leg skin. As long as you don't mind the Frankenstein scar, it should have decent results. There's also artificial skin cultivation, but that's at best experimental.

I GUESS a somewhat alternate option would be to have a normal SRS but to have the surgeon especially make you an extra-large clitoris... the way FTMs end up after a while on testosterone. There's your "penis". However the same way it probably takes an FTM a lot of imagination to forget about how it really is and imagine it as a penis, it won't be exactly satisfying to you. Not to mention that I can't help but think that essentially making oneself an artificial hermaphrodite just must feel weird to most if not all gender identities of the vast spectrum.

What you can do, however, is talk about this with someone competent to understand it further and be more enlightened to take a decision.
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Natkat

I kinda have same felling, I do not dislike having a vegina, yet somethimes I would like to have a penis but othertimes I don't mind.

I guess in a perfect word you could just shift so when you needed to pee wup you got a penis and in the class with the akward boner wup penis was gone.. would had been so simple.
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BaileyC

Quote from: suzifrommd on August 18, 2013, 06:29:22 AM
I was at a talk given by one of the well-known SRS surgeons when someone asked him whether this was possible. He treated the speaker as a deviant, which resulted in my striking him from my list of possible surgeons (not that I would have asked him to do this, but I wish he had treated the questioner with respect and compassion).

Thank you so much for taking this seriously. The way I see it, identifying as I do is no different than any other Trans* person wanting to have their body match who they are inside.
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miannne

I realize this is an old thread, but I'm sure it's still read occasionally. So I'd like to add a bit of info, first-hand knowledge you might say. Yes, it IS possible to have m2f srs and keep your penis. I don't like to use specific doctor's names without their prior permission, but I can tell you a well known srs surgeon in Florida does what he calls hermaphrodite surgery. Or at least he did approximately 8 years ago, and I'm fairly certain he still does. He does great work, I might add!
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