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Transitioning in an existing long-term relationship with a cis male partner

Started by birdline, August 19, 2013, 04:38:43 AM

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birdline

Hey guys, I'm a long-time stalker but recent member. I don't... have a name I'd like to give yet, I'm still struggling on that front.

it's a bit long winded but I just can't compress it, I'm just that flustered by it all.



My partner is a straight cis guy, we've been together for nearly three years. He's my everything, blahblah. Love, like.... Princess Bride kind of true love. Twu wuv, even.

We both have family members who graciously introduced us to this, and so the prospect of our situation isn't new. I have a MTF sister-in-law, and his sister is genderqueer, so even before all this started about seven months ago... it's not like it's a big thing in that context.

(Always been boyish, dressed in boys closed til I hit puberty. I was a pretty regular girl, I'm feminine but I don't feel female. Last Christmas a friend came to visit and I broke down and talked to him about my feelings, he's known me for nearly 11 years and he knows me... I was the kid they always joked would 'get a sex change', and we laughed that if anyone didn't see this coming they we're that good of a friend anyway.)

After that talk, I said I'd give myself six months before seeking any kind of psychiatric help, I'm big into doing everything I can before depending on someone else.. I tried dressing/presenting as male, cutting my hair even shorter, binding etc, and I guess matching up to how I felt. It worked. I've been so much more happy and I feel right. I feel so freaking right. Insecure about my... bits... but cover that stuff up and bam - I am wickedly happy. I've decided to go for it, and my friend is one of my biggest supporters. I am going to be the person I want to be. When my friends say 'he' or 'his' I melt with appreciation, I feel I'm almost unfairly lucky to have them.

I also talked to my boyfriend about it, and he was very supportive. He said he'd love me no matter what and do his best to support me. A lot more tearful and complicated than that, but summarised... that was it. That's great, but relationships aren't that simple at the best of times, let alone now.

Which brings me to the actual issue. It's mostly about sexual attraction.

I'm not worried about my personality changing as much as I'm worried about my body changing. He currently identifies as straight, and I don't know how hard this will be to understand but I'll do my best to explain. My sexuality is very much dictated by my attraction to him as person, not a gender. I am sexually attracted to his personality, I guess? If he said "I want to be a woman, I am a woman, I want to go on hormones etc" I would 100% support him. Which is fine, but he's not the one with the desire to transition.

I have had the talk with him multiple times. He said he would even find me attractive as a man, despite him being straight. Blahblah, get to the end of it and we're fine. We're even trying male pronouns among our four-person tribe of BFFs. I am super lucky.

BUT I AM ALSO INSECURE. I can't predict him, and I'm finding myself getting angry because I'm not psychic enough to read his mind or future events. He's straight. I want to be a man.

I am actually starting my transition. I'm starting to come out, I guess. I gave myself six months to think seriously and start settling into the idea, and eight months later I'm doing the things. Hopefully starting T by the end of the year. But ugh, I love him so much that this relationship is the big thing that would stop me from doing this. I love him that much, I love what we have. It's made me who I am, and who I am is something I'm proud of because of him. I'm in a panic about the whole situation because of my relationship. I need to do this, and the thought of losing him over something I feel like I can't live without... it's like choosing between water and oxygen.


Is there anyone here who has maintained a ftm/cis male relationship that was up and running before you transitioned? Was he straight or bi or pan or ace or whatever?

Even guys whose partners are female, I've read a lot of writing where sexuality among previously identified lesbian couples (whether still idetifying as lesbian or not isn't my point btw) have the same sort of issue, not being attracted to me and all, but remaining with their partners... I don't care too much. I just need some help, I feel really lost and lonely about this whole thing.

What kind of questions did you ask your partner? What did he ask you? Is it weird for me to feel like I'm not asking the right questions? Like I'm not closing the conversation, so to speak? Is this me fearing transition, because I don't know what will actually happen between us by the end/ish of things?
Did you have a similar fear of them changing their mind and not finding you attractive? Have you had surgery, are you on T etc?
Has anyone's partner changed their mind about the relationship because of the physical side of things?
How does your sex-life change? I'm okay with my bottom parts, I don't imagine sex any different but again I haven't actually transitioned physically. We're pretty vanilla.

Again, the fear is mostly a sexual/physical thing. I'm okay with the personality side, I know that's something I can mostly control by being myself, because he loves me when I do that.


Apologies for the rant, thanks for any input, much appreciated!

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Liam

I follow http://sothrthegreat.tumblr.com/, who's a trans guy married to a cis guy. They're making it work and still super in love.
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birdline

Quote from: Luke Andrew on August 19, 2013, 06:03:36 AM
I follow http://sothrthegreat.tumblr.com/, who's a trans guy married to a cis guy. They're making it work and still super in love.

Much appreciation, thankyou!!
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Mattfromengland

I think anything like this will be hard. It's such a hard thing to face. I feel very sorry for say mtf's that are married with kids and face losing all that just to be who they rightly should be!!!!

Going by others I think it is possible to stay in a relationship, even if it switches things around. I know of lesbian couples where one of the two has transitioned to male and the other partner only likes females but still they stay together. Because as you've stated you love the person, not the physical body. I can also see how things can change though and I imagine if by any chance your BF did decide that it wasn;t going to work out, that right now even he won't know this is the case. Neither of you will know until you're actually copping with it.

I have been with my BF for over 9 years now, he's bisexual and I'm gay (as in once transitioned to male I am attracted to men. I guess currently I'm seen socially as heterosexual as I'm female). So.......technically, we should both be fine as he's known about my trans status since I've known him and has always said he'd support me if I wanted to do something about it. I was always too scared to though until now.

Despite all this there is still a small worry that the stress of going on this journey and the changes in me might change things. I don't think it will, but of course you can't guarantee that. So even in my position I don't feel 100% secure, so it's understandable how you feel.

Whatever happens though I'm sure you'll be happy in your new identity, and even if the worse happens I'm sure you'll still be VERY close friends and with you being who you really are, you'll move on and find someone just as good. Sounds like you two might actually be fine though, TBH, but it's good to think things through and be aware of what might happen.

Oh of course I should have said before I'm pre everything, and like you are hoping to start hormones before the end of the year.

Exciting times!!! :D :D


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ford

My husband and I have been married for 6+ years. My transition came as a shock to him (and me, ultimately)...it was one of those things where I was depressed and in a rapid downward spiral until I figured out what the heck was going on with me.

Since then I've started hormones (nearly 4 months on), and I pass fairly consistently as male in public. That said, my husband has stuck it out with me, and is in it for the long haul.

I'm sure there are hundreds of reasons why some people stay together and some split. For us, the bottom line was that we were best friends first and foremost. Sex is a problem since he's straight, but since our marriage isn't based off sex...well, we're gonna be ok. And we still do have sex, it has just changed (for the better, imo...and he might be starting to think it's better now too since I'm a much happier, much more willing partner).

The other main hurdle has been him adapting to being seen as gay. He works in a very conservative male dominated field. He recently moved workplaces, and as such has been introducing me as his partner. I feel like that's a pretty big sacrifice on his part, but to make it all work we have each needed to be willing to make some of these changes.

Hope some of that helps (it's still EARLY here and I'm not quite awake!). You can pm me if you have more specific questions :)
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Mattfromengland

Quote from: ford on August 19, 2013, 07:10:10 AM

The other main hurdle has been him adapting to being seen as gay. He works in a very conservative male dominated field. He recently moved workplaces, and as such has been introducing me as his partner. I feel like that's a pretty big sacrifice on his part, but to make it all work we have each needed to be willing to make some of these changes.


Wow Ford, great respect to your husband. That's a big step for him to take. What a wonderful relationship you must have together :D


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Chaos

Our stories are almost exactly the same.Ill share mine and maybe it can help.Aside from many people,i grew up with no knowledge aka i was sheltered. (hell didnt even know what a fem product was -_- lol) anyway,i just lived life in some unknown crap hole and i cant even express how i felt,it was just that bad.So i went to live with this guy (who i am living with now) and he was my bf and all.we were together for MUCH longer (about 5 years or so to be exact) but i was a different kind and not one he was really attacted to (tho he wouldnt admit it,he just proved it with his actions) and of course i didnt know why i was that way but i finally found out i was transgender.i mean i wont lie,i *loved him and cared about him* but i wasnt IN love with him.for me it wasnt what i thought it would be and was far from what it should have been.When i told him i said *you know how i feel but i wont lie to you.regardless of what this does to our relationship,i have to and i want us to at least be friends* so kinda that *part ways on good terms* kinda thing. (he is also straight) i knew this and he told me that he supported me 100% and that no,we wouldnt be together like that but we would always be friends and he wanted me to be happy (suprising since hes a erm *meanie*) lol but it didnt bother me one bit to be honest.aside from it all ruined before hand,the relationship wasnt me.it honestly was what my family (conservitive christians) had put into my head for so long *you gotta do this,be like this,do that,be with this person* and i had finally found the freedom to be ME.As far as sex goes,its been the same for me since i lost my V.over before it starts and not even leaving first base *aka just going through the motions with no other interest* Me and him split ways long ago and are currently just room mates.and since i came out,i realized finally ALOT of things and i wont be with any man sexually.i have only been with woman and thats how it will always be.odd thing is that,i did have a gf years ago and it was amazing.everything i desired and the enjoyment.so as far as me and him goes,thats all over and no attractions at all and no feelings at all,might even be a slight hatred there lmfao
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