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Started by overdrive, August 23, 2013, 11:27:05 PM

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overdrive

I'm new here and also somewhat new to all of this as Ive lived my life until recently as a female (tomboy). I'm looking to purchase my first prosthetic and ReelMagik is looking like what I'll likely go with, though it would be nice if they had STPs or at least offered their 6" with 3D balls instead of only the 4.5". Anyways my question I have is both moral and logistical.

With a realistic dick like ReelMagik could I have sex with someone not knowing its a prosthetic? I'm wondering if it goes far enough down to cover the clit or if that is left completely exposed. I read somewhere that the adhesive is only applied to the tab on the top and the rest hangs freely, is that true or can you apply adhesive to the bottom as well?

The second part of this question. Is it morally wrong to have sex with someone who thinks you are cis-male? I've read where people believe it to be wrong because you aren't using your own physical anatomy but what they consider "artificial". However, guys like us consider it our dicks and part of us.

Thanks everyone for help here. I sent an email to ReelMagik asking the questions about 3D scrotum with the 6" and how much of the female anatomy is covered up by that, but they never responded.
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Adam (birkin)

Well...speaking just of the Reelmagik, perhaps. I've heard cis women say that it feels the same as a cis guy's dick. But you'd probably have to make sure shedidn't reach between your legs, or look too closely, cause yeah, those parts might still be visible. But if you haven't taken steps towards transition, you'd have (I assume) breasts to hide, more female features to compensate for (like a more hairless body), etc, and that might be an  issue more than the Reelmagik. It could maybe be done but chances are, if a woman is straight and has been with cis males, she's going to notice these things. Further into transition, probably not.

As for morality...I've never really come to a conclusion on this, tbh. For me, it's not really a moral issue, but a safety issue. Sure, you could get away with not disclosing, perhaps, but pre-op, something's going to come up eventually, and who knows how someone could react? And how many lies would have to be told to hide physical features that may not seem entirely normal for a cis male? Is it worth the chance?
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overdrive

Thanks for the feedback. I do have breasts to hide. I have a muscular body with low body fat so my body shape isn't a concern. I have hairy legs too so I'm good there. Luckily I'm fairly flat chested and if I could get away with leaving a binder on I'd be good, though thats not always possible in those situations.

Can you tell me how much of the ReelMagik is attached with adhesive? How much of the female anatomy is uncovered such as the clit or does that get covered? If its only attached at the top have you had issues in water with your dick floating up or would it stay down?

Sorry for all the weird questions. Trying to cover all the bases and get my expectations in check before I spend the money on one as nice as that.
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randomroads

As a person who's spent the last 13 years having sex with men as a woman, I can promise you that women will notice unless they're drunk. The general rule is - don't have sex with a drunk woman because then she can accuse you of rape.

I can't comment on anything else. I'm still using a unrealistic dildo for my love life.
I believe in invisible pink unicorns

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overdrive

Just to clarify... I was referring to casual sex like one night stands. Not long term relationships at this point.
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Lubbles

Quote from: randomroads on August 23, 2013, 11:55:38 PM
As a person who's spent the last 13 years having sex with men as a woman, I can promise you that women will notice unless they're drunk. The general rule is - don't have sex with a drunk woman because then she can accuse you of rape.

I can't comment on anything else. I'm still using a unrealistic dildo for my love life.

I agree. Also I have never had sex (with a Male or Female) wearing a shirt, or with out them touching my chest.

As to the second part of the question. I don't think that it morally wrong per say but it is not morally right. It's kinda a gray area because you are a man. On the other hand she may not see it that way, and feel lied to, used, or angry.
"Too many of us are not living our dreams because we are living our fears."

~ Les Brown
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roxx.i

Unfortunately I don't think you would get away with it. I agree with the above comments - not many people (unless intoxicated) wouldn't get suspicious. Speaking as a cis-gendered female, I would know something was up.
You never know what peoples reactions might be if you tell them the truth! :)
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ChaoticTribe

There are people who don't mind quick sex with clothes on where they're keeping their hands off their partner and someone just unzips their fly. In fact, I am one of those people who often enjoys it a whole lot, but I would say I am atypical since I am a transman. A woman on the receiving end may not really be into that (I don't know?) but if her hands or mouth is roaming down there, there's a good chance she will be able to tell, no matter what prosthetic is used. Again, clothes on and hands off binder shouldn't be an issue but people tend to have sex in ways that would make it an issue by someone exploring your body a lot.

Morally I do not think it would be wrong, just like it would not be wrong morally to be intersex and not disclose this. But the issue of safety is more than the issue of morality... some girl isn't very likely to harm you like a man might harm a sex partner he feels has not been honest, but there's no saying she won't run her mouth to anyone and everyone that will listen which has strong social consequences, and some people could get nasty, especially brothers and other guys who feel protective of her if she is upset.

Be careful and watch out, it is always better to be safe than sorry. I'd say go ahead and get a prosthetic if you want one and look for a relationship where this would be the least problem possible. There is a balance between someone not knowing you very long and not having any sense of loyalty to you versus being with someone too long before they find out, and them thinking they've been lied to or deceived. It's not for everyone, but some of us specifically look for partners who can accept us for who we are right off the bat, without needing to disclose our trans status later.
Was falsely diagnosed as a female-to-male transsexual.
I'm just a cisgender female picking up the pieces.
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AdamMLP

Reelmagik have some photos of people wearing their prosthetic on their website if you haven't seen them already, that should give you an indication of how they hang.  It's worth remembering that the clit is made up of the same tissue as a penis, so if I understand correctly, the base of the dick should be over the clit if that makes sense.  That's how I wear my packer and it seems right anyway, although it's no where near a RM.  I can't imagine anyone wanting to use adhesive anywhere other than the tab if it's situated correctly, the only way I can see that working without being very uncomfortable is if your balls were above your clit.  Balls naturally hang pretty freely.

I don't know about the morality of the situation.  I would be inclined not to go into it without disclosing, because I know how the questions I'd be thinking if I found out that someone had done that to me.  I'd be wondering if I was just an experiment to see if you could get away with it.  Even if it was just a one night stand thing I think I'd like to know what I was getting myself into, and a lot of people get funny about being seen as homosexual, and they might think you're tricking them.  Maybe I'm thinking too much into it as a victim of sexual assault.  And as other people have pointed out, your safety is important.

Disclosing doesn't mean that you're not going to be able to have casual sex, just that you'd maybe need to look in more liberal areas.  It can be done.
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spacerace

I agree with Caleb. For safety reasons - I would always disclose to a partner.

People have visceral reactions to transgender people. Switching gender is an affront to some really deeply ingrained stuff in people's brains. They may likely overreact if they find out and are ignorant (which they likely they will with a prosthetic)

Someone could flip out over it and make a big deal out of it that could impact you in some way.

I don't think it is morally wrong - I just don't think it is a smart decision.


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aleon515

I  imagine theoretically that something  a RM could feel real, after all a lot of sex is in the brain not the body parts anyway. And RM has a very realistic feel anyway. I think that it does not look 100% real. You can usually see the tab. It probably does act and feel different in some ways. But Lee (can't think of their name of "Stone Butch Blues" said the character had sex multiple times with women who never knew, now of course the character is fictional, but I wondered to what extent it was based on real events.)
That wasn't a RM either.

I don't know that it really is a morality question, except that it would be pretty immoral if you got hurt.
I don't think it's safe. You could potentially have someone feel that you were trying to trick them (not saying actually you are), but again it's a brain thing, and some people could react poorly.

One night stands are potentially risky behavior so make sure to use condoms and so on.

--Jay
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