Manning has enough supporters to pay for treatment, and a website set up in her behalf, so that financing it should not be a problem.

I would like to see the issue dealt with on a political level by the Administration (who is in charge of the military), and if necessary, through legislation.

It would be nice to see a line item in the next military appropriations bill directing HRT treatment for GID/GD.

Quote from: Ave on August 28, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Oh hunty, nothing is ever about "morals" in this government or any other one.

But it should be, don't you think?

Quote from: Jamie D on August 28, 2013, 07:10:16 PM
It would be nice to see a line item in the next military appropriations bill directing HRT treatment for GID/GD.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. Because since GID is a medical condition, and hormones is an accepted form of treatment, it wouldn't be fair to make her pay for her treatment while the military prisons likely cover other treatments for condition, like chemo for cancer, etc. What kind of a precedent would that set? Not a very good one IMO. We shouldn't make people pay for things themselves just because the majority finds it disagreeable or the persons crimes to be horrible if there's a duty of the prison to take care of prisoners healthcare.

Quote from: Jamie D on August 28, 2013, 07:11:49 PM
But it should be, don't you think?

In moderation, yes. However,  a government that reliesnon this too much lends itself to human error, fallibility,  and greed. We have to define what version of morals we are going to use.

Quote from: LearnedHand on August 28, 2013, 06:53:32 PM
Manning lawyer gives more details on gender change
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/8/27/manning-lawyer-givesmoredetailsongenderchange.html
Author: None listed Source: Al Jazeera America and Associated Press

"Army Pvt. Chelsea Manning, who was previously known as Bradley Manning, wants estrogen treatments that would promote breast development and other female characteristics -- which she is willing to pay for -- while she's incarcerated at the all-male military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., her lawyer, David Coombs, said Monday." She's also not interested in SRS right now and expects to be incarcerated with bio-males.

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Thought this was interesting, Manning is willing to pay for the treatment herself. Kind of would put to rest a lot of the "I have to pay for my own transition" arguments. Also, Al-JAzeera is using proper feminine pronouns while referring to Manning, which has not been consistently used with other news sources, and uses "Chealsea Manning. . . previously known as Bradley", while other sites I've seen say Bradley first then say Chelsea. Just an observation.

I'm putting two and two together here, it looks to me like Manning will be in the same facility that Calvin Glover is imprisoned in. Glover was convicted of murdering Barry Winchell, who had a relationship with Calpernia Addams. 

Quote from: LearnedHand on August 28, 2013, 07:13:23 PM
Yes, that's what I was thinking. Because since GID is a medical condition, and hormones is an accepted form of treatment, it wouldn't be fair to make her pay for her treatment while the military prisons likely cover other treatments for condition, like chemo for cancer, etc. What kind of a precedent would that set? Not a very good one IMO. We shouldn't make people pay for things themselves just because the majority finds it disagreeable or the persons crimes to be horrible if there's a duty of the prison to take care of prisoners healthcare.

Actually, it is not unknown in other cultures that the prisoner or the prisoners family/supporters can pay for favors.  That is just not part of the American penal tradition.

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on August 28, 2013, 07:22:53 PM
I'm putting two and two together here, it looks to me like Manning will be in the same facility that Calvin Glover is imprisoned in. Glover was convicted of murdering Barry Winchell, who had a relationship with Calpernia Addams.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._military_prisons

I've never stayed at any of those luxury resorts!

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on August 28, 2013, 09:33:45 PM
I've never stayed at any of those luxury resorts!

A likely story.

Quote from: LordKAT on August 29, 2013, 08:08:51 AM
A likely story.

Anything you may have heard is probably just some vicious...........truth being spread about me!