Question: If Man is adult, boy is child
               Woman is adult, girl is child
             Is Androgyne an adult? whats an androgyne child?

Answers to this riddle can be anywhere from creative guess to serious though provoking "this is the answer" type of answer.

*puts on ponder hat*
I can't see how androgyne could be only an adult since in my mind it doesn't manifest itself during adulthood, although we could say we become more aware of our gender identity at a later age?... Hmmm, I think I just lynched myself. Ehhh I'll get back to this later when someone can translate my explanation.

Adult:  Androgyne
Child:  androgyne

Ya know...the A is big for adults and little for children???

......Laurry

P.S.  OK, I'll give it a little more thought

Androgyn-ette

andro-tykes?   They go riding their little andro-trykes

Or, perhaps borrowing from Yiddish, androgy-leh



zythyra

Quote from: zythyra on July 10, 2007, 11:52:07 AM
andro-tykes?   They go riding their little andro-trykes

That made my day.

I generally (I totally typed "genderally" just now) call all children "child" or "little one." And when I teach swim lessons, I call them "little swimmies." I've only used gender-specific titles when saying things like "atta boy," or "you go, girl."

A child.  A sibling. 

See, androgyne is not truly a gendered term.

Why?

Because it encompasses a variety of gender identities.  Bigendered, fluid gendered, non-gendered, etc.

It is a classification system that defies gender, so there can be no corresponding child term.  Children are classified like adults, as far as this goes.

Yes, the most appropriate terms for the non-gendered gender are those that are themselves genderless. So: adult / child / parent / sibling.

  Nfr

QuoteThat made my day.

Thanks 

zythyra

Quote from: zythyra on July 10, 2007, 11:52:07 AM
andro-tykes?   They go riding their little andro-trykes

Or, perhaps borrowing from Yiddish, androgy-leh



zythyra

That nearly killed me too.

    After Pica's theory, I've been thinking that I myself kind of identify as a child. I'm not kidding. People have always been surprised when they find out my age. It's not because I'm so beautiful as you can tell, but because of how I think and behave (or so I believe).
    The theory seems to indicate that we may have some attributes that do not mature as they do in other people (I hope I'm interpreting it correctly). I've been wondering if I really am a child somehow. I was thinking of exploring this aspect, but this thread beat me to it.

    I am leaning towards Seshatneferw's suggestion of "adult / child / parent / sibling" as a good solution. I am an adult (I think) and my brothers have a sibling while I am my mothers oldest child, I reckon.

   
Rebis

In my life and art I often feel child-like and playful, but I can simultaneously be adult for dealing with details, schedules, contracts, etc. In some ways I haven't ever grown up (or wanted to).

zythyra

Quote from: Rebis on July 16, 2007, 09:27:05 PM
    I am leaning towards Seshatneferw's suggestion of "adult / child / parent / sibling" as a good solution. I am an adult (I think) and my brothers have a sibling while I am my mothers oldest child, I reckon.

Of course, adult implies being grown up. Perhaps a bit too much for some of us, as some sort of refusal / inability to grow up completely seems to have something to do with our condition. I suppose the adult/child dichotomy is another one with which a few of us have issues, myself included.

  Nfr

i only meant to imply that in terms of gender we may be as children. in terms of organising and everything else we are as grown up as anyone else, maybe more so sometimes. But it is possible that people see an innocence in us.

Anyway, is there such a thing as a real adult anyway.

Quote from: Pica Pica on July 17, 2007, 01:52:56 PM
Anyway, is there such a thing as a real adult anyway.

Of course there is, silly.  Who else would they make adult beverages and adult entertainment for?

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i only meant to imply that in terms of gender we may be as children. in terms of organising and everything else we are as grown up as anyone else, maybe more so sometimes. But it is possible that people see an innocence in us.

I would agree with the concept of our gender potentially being childlike, although it is hard to make that blanket statement in the world of androgynes.  There are few one-size-fits-all statements that can be truthfully made when it comes to this bunch.  I'm not so much sure if it is because we tend to ignore the gender rules (much as children do) or because so many of us have only recently come to terms with this whole concept and our being stuck smack in the middle of it.  It has only been a year since I accepted my androgyny and that is not a lot of time to form an adult mentality regarding my "new" gender.

However, in terms of everything else, I am as much of an adult as the next person (in other words, not much of one).  The government bestowed the title of adult upon me as I reached my 21st birthday.  The Auto Insurance people did the same except they waited until I was 26.  Now, I struggle between wanting to play and doing the things I must...and sometime the playing still wins.  I ask you, just how adult is that?

Now, regarding "childlike innocence"...how many of you have children?  You still believe they are innocent?  Yeah, right.  This same little angel that takes your breath away when they are sleeping (ooo, so cute) will lie to your face and never bat an eye.  Yes, they know they are lying.  Yes, they are doing it on purpose.  Yes, they know if they get caught they get in trouble, but they do it anyway...just daring you to catch them.  And all this before the age of 2.  Still wanna talk about innocence?

Having said all that, there is something within androgynes that people see, if only in a sub-conscious emotional way, that causes them to trust us and let down their walls for a bit.  Sometimes this is nice and can lead to some very wonderful friendships.  Sometimes it gets to be too much (at least for me) as I have been told some things (by people I didn't feel were that close), that I really didn't want to know about.  Things such as their relationship problems with their spouses (spice?) or physical and/or emotional problems that break your heart (but also make you go "yuck").

Now, if there were just a way I could tap into that sub-conscious trust and get everyone to leave their entire estates to me.  Hey, I would share with the family...maybe

....Laurry...the "innocent" one