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Started by LearnedHand, September 06, 2013, 06:49:51 PM

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DriftingCrow

Okay guys, being able to deal with cars is an important aspect to me for my own personal version of "being manly" and it's also very useful to know stuff about cars even if you don't have any interest in cars. Since bio-females tend to get steered away from things like autoshop in school, and our fathers may have only saved the auto lessons for our brothers, it's time we do our own catching up. (Seriously, I once overheard a woman complaining to a mechanic that he didn't fix her A/C when he changed the air filter. After listening in for a bit, I could tell that she didn't even realize that the air filter has nothing to do with the air conditioner. So, obviously, I am not the only person who lacks essential automobile basics.)

Luckily, I know a few basics to just merely taking care of a car like checking tire pressure and oil, changing the oil every 3,000-5,000 miles, I know some things need to be changed every 30,000 miles and a few others at 120,000 or so. I am capable of changing/rotating my own tires. I've learned the value of being a AAA member. But, more knowledge would be great that way the next time I am in Autozone, I don't feel like a complete idiot when I say "I need some of the green liquid thing".

So guys, have you picked any great bits of info up over the years? Have you found any helpful, easy to read, guides that you go by? Ladies, join in.  :)

Oh, and we must all congratulate Alex on beginning to drive!  ;D

Things I've picked up over the years:
1) If your engine doesn't seem up pick up too quickly when you turn the key, you may need a new battery, especially when you're at the point where you turn it, it doesn't do anything, and it finally starts when you turn it again. You might think you're doing something wrong, but you're not. (thank you AAA for existing)
2) This is kind of hard to describe, but if your car seems slower and harder to drive then usual, you may need new sparkplugs. Or a new coil pack. I went through two coil packs on my stang because of a manufacturer's error, and then I found out my first mechanic was a jerk and never changed one of the sparkplugs all the times I brought it in for new ones because it was in a hard to reach spot, and they were knock off sparkplugs. Luckily, I got a great mechanic who sorted that all out (anyone in the Orlando, FL area, I highly recommend Calderon).
3) People at JiffyLube lie, and they're too expensive.
4) If a brand new, really expensive tire suddenly ruptures while you're driving, you might want to check the air plugs (or valve, stem, whatever it's called). I've found out the hard way that if the valves are cheap, they sometimes fall off and into the tire itself. So, the thing is bouncing around inside the tire while you're driving and it causes the rubber in the tire to fall apart and then *bam* tire ruptures on the highway. Yeah. . . three tires within two months later, that was discovered. . .
5) Grinding noises when you hit the brake means you need to get your brakes checked.

Obviously, my tips aren't the best or most comprehensive. So, join in so we can all learn.  :)
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Devlyn

A good stereo is the best lube job a car can get. All those annoying squeaks and rattles just seem to disappear!  :laugh:
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DriftingCrow

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 06, 2013, 06:54:49 PM
A good stereo is the best lube job a car can get. All those annoying squeaks and rattles just seem to disappear!  :laugh:

HAHAHA I'll need to upgrade my stereo!
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Renee

I know a little about 'em.  And what I don't know, I can generally figure out. But I don't much like doing it for other people anymore, it messes up my hands too much. But then too, I try to do my own automotive work cause I don't want to overpay someone else for crappy work. 

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Beth Andrea

My suggestion is to become familiar with the basic terms and theory of how cars work.

Things like knowing what the green liquid is called, why is it mixed 50/50 usually, how does it cool the engine, and doesn't that mean it gets hotter than boiling (but doesn't boil? Whats up with that?!)

Spark plugs--can you point to all 8 of them? (this is a trick question-- there's 8 only if your engine has 8 cylinders) what's a "cylinder"? Why do some cars have 4...or 6...or 8...what's the most a normal car has?

What's the relationship between the battery, the alternator, and "the nut behind the wheel"?

If the brakes are squeeky....what kind of grease should one use to stop the noise?

How many spark plugs does a diesel motor have?

What is the order of connecting jumper cables?

....etc

Seriously, by asking questions like these (and using correct terminology), one gains a good basic knowledge of how cars work.

Good luck!

:)
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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justpat

  Who drives a car? Where I live the first car is a truck and your second car is a tractor.1990 Dodge D250
heavy duty diesel 22 mpg 500,000 plus miles bought it new have done all mtce myself,many broken nails arrrg.Second Kubota tractor with attachments makes me money with little effort love those hydraulics they never get tired.  Pat
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Renee

Quote from: Beth Andrea on September 06, 2013, 07:19:16 PM


How many spark plugs does a diesel motor have?



:)
True story, at a golf course where I was the assistant superintendent, I actually got the new mechanic(mostly small engine guy) to spend half an hour looking for the distributor cap on our diesel backhoe.  It was hilarious...
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Kia

I love the girls with all the car knowledge on the "Men, we need to talk..." thread ;D

This is why I love trans* people
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A

If it makes anyone feel better, in all theory I've been supposed to be a guy until recently, and thus supposed to get this stuff. Yet I don't even know the very basics. Heck, if I got past my dislike for driving and got better at it and actually decided to buy a car, the only criteria I could know about would probably be fuel economy and looks.

Anyway, so I've been supposed to be a guy, yet my sister and, above her, my mother, are enormously more versed in cars than I will ever be. Oh yeah, and I haven't spoken to him in a long time, but I think my father is pretty clueless about cars too. And that one IS a real man. As far as I know anyway.
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Jack_M

It's funny, I actually know quite a bit about cars, but to be truly honest, I don't have any desire to own one!  Lol.  I own a bicycle that I tend to most frequently use to get from A to B and otherwise it's transit and then last it's car share.  I love car share because then I know the absolute cost.  I don't need to worry about issues during a MOT, the car breaking down and the associated costs, gas, mileage, insurance, tax...the list goes on.  For me I just see cars as being too expensive and that expense becomes unpredictable.

I'm also a bit of an environment nut so even though I gaze longingly at a Lotus Elise, I wouldn't own one.  If I did have a car, it'd likely be some small electric car!  Lol. 

So for everything I do know about cars, the only time I use that knowledge is when one of my friend's cars start sounding funny and that stereo blasting no longer covers it :P.
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Eva Marie

The most important thing that you can do is read, know, and follow the maintenance schedule that's in the back of your owners manual. You did know that there is a maintenance schedule back there, right?  :laugh:

Know how to check the fluid levels in your car. Keep a tire gauge in your glove compartment and check your tire pressure about once a month.

Oil is the lifeblood of your engine. If you do nothing else change your oil and filter on schedule and your car will last a long time.

Girls are a prime target at unscrupulous auto repair shops for unnecessary services like power steering or transmission flushes. Mechanics call that practice "wallet flushes" for a reason. If a shop recommends a maintenance service that's not in your maintenance schedule they may be trying to make some extra money off of you.

Talk to your friends and find a reputable mechanic that you trust. I have been ripped off before at shops that are mainly known for other services such as mufflers, automatic transmission service, or tires. Also ask you mechanic if he is aware of services that are not in the maintenance schedule but should be done anyway periodically. One example that comes to my mind is changing the fluid and filter in your automatic transmission.

I have had some really good experiences at auto dealerships with getting work done, but you will pay for their expertise.

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Jamie D

I'm androgyne, so I will only talk about convertibles.   ::)
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Danielle Emmalee

Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: Jamie D on September 06, 2013, 09:08:06 PM
I'm androgyne, so I will only talk about convertibles.   ::)

Let me guess...you drive with the top down?

;)
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: Eva Marie on September 06, 2013, 08:56:41 PM
The most important thing that you can do is read, know, and follow the maintenance schedule that's in the back of your owners manual. You did know that there is a maintenance schedule back there, right?  :laugh:

Know how to check the fluid levels in your car. Keep a tire gauge in your glove compartment and check your tire pressure about once a month.

Oil is the lifeblood of your engine. If you do nothing else change your oil and filter on schedule and your car will last a long time.

Girls are a prime target at unscrupulous auto repair shops for unnecessary services like power steering or transmission flushes. Mechanics call that practice "wallet flushes" for a reason. If a shop recommends a maintenance service that's not in your maintenance schedule they may be trying to make some extra money off of you.

Talk to your friends and find a reputable mechanic that you trust. I have been ripped off before at shops that are mainly known for other services such as mufflers, automatic transmission service, or tires. Also ask you mechanic if he is aware of services that are not in the maintenance schedule but should be done anyway periodically. One example that comes to my mind is changing the fluid and filter in your automatic transmission.

I have had some really good experiences at auto dealerships with getting work done, but you will pay for their expertise.

...Unless the used car you bought no longer has an owners' manual...or if there is one, it's in absolute mint condition.

Years ago I talked to a new guy in the military...his engine had blown up, and he didn't know why. Upon inspection, we found there was a "zero balance" in the oil department of the engine. He had no idea about checking fluids; his dad had always handled that stuff.

Point is, the used car you're buying may have some significant (or minor) mechanical issues with it...and it is these issues that will motivate one to drive to a mechanic and ask, "Hey, why is my car trying to drive into the ditch all the time?"

And at that point...you really, really need to know at least the basics of what is--and is not--under the hood.

...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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DriftingCrow

Great questions Beth Andrea, asking usually is the best way of learning. I have 4 cylinders in my current vehicle, and I'll have to read about what exactly a cylinder is, but I think it has something to do with the engine.  :D I also think the green thing is radiator fluid or antifreeze?

I have listened to Click & Clack before, I'll have to go on their website and go through their archives. :)

Quote from: Jack_M on September 06, 2013, 08:44:02 PM
It's funny, I actually know quite a bit about cars, but to be truly honest, I don't have any desire to own one!  Lol.  I own a bicycle that I tend to most frequently use to get from A to B and otherwise it's transit and then last it's car share.  I love car share because then I know the absolute cost.  I don't need to worry about issues during a MOT, the car breaking down and the associated costs, gas, mileage, insurance, tax...the list goes on.  For me I just see cars as being too expensive and that expense becomes unpredictable.

I'm also a bit of an environment nut so even though I gaze longingly at a Lotus Elise, I wouldn't own one.  If I did have a car, it'd likely be some small electric car!  Lol. 

So for everything I do know about cars, the only time I use that knowledge is when one of my friend's cars start sounding funny and that stereo blasting no longer covers it :P.

If I had the choice, I too would abandon the car. Thanks to my state government, our public transport isn't great and we have a lot of missing sidewalks.  :D I could easily bike to work (ignoring the missing sidewalks and scary trucks speeding past) if I only stayed in the office all day, but I tend to do a lot of driving around for my job, I put over 50 miles on the car today and there's been times I've done over 100 miles in a day, and biking that wouldn't be time manageable. Luckily, my bosses pay me so much per mile, and I'd much rather be out visiting old ladies and filing documents than sitting in the office with them.  :)
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Simon

Haha, you really made the thread.

I have some knowledge about cars since my gf's dad is a diesel mechanic and her family is a ton of car guys (ack). I tried to do the car guy thing but felt my abilities would be better used in the kitchen (I love cooking/baking). However, I live in the sticks and sharing a car with the girlie just isn't cutting it any longer so buying my own.

In all honesty I really want a motorcycle but my gf is a EMT. She says she has scraped one too many bikers off the highway to even consider it. Pffft, I'll get one some day.  ;)
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DriftingCrow

Quote from: Si on September 06, 2013, 11:53:42 PM
In all honesty I really want a motorcycle but my gf is a EMT. She says she has scraped one too many bikers off the highway to even consider it. Pffft, I'll get one some day.  ;)

I love motorycles too, I come from a biker family. We have Harleys and Indians. I suggest reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert M. Pirsig. I am partway through it, and I am learning all about tuning up bikes.
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Teela Renee

while on the topic of car's can anyone recommend a good oil leak stopper that isnt gonna gunk up my engine really bad?
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