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not a real man..

Started by jossef-ftm, September 20, 2013, 12:47:23 PM

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jossef-ftm

I have a real problems in my life a really big problems and everybody in family know that and know how i suffer and hurt from that,my past was so painful from all sides and my present is the same but i'm used to that from the first time i came to this world i felt like this life is not for me.
Last night i was in a forum where people discuss there problems and i wrote about my family problem and people try to comment and give help ,most of people there know i'm a transguy cause i posted alot about my GID and one of the comments from a guy was '' i'm sorry but i have to tell you that.. i'm not try to hurt your feelings but you feel this way cause you are a transguy you are so sensitive cause you are naturally a women even if you are a guy now but you will never feel or act like cis males,if a cis guy have this problem with his family he would leave the house simply,but your feeling and sunsitivity bring you weakness and it will always be cause you are not a real guy sorry'' and that made me so f**g angry and i made a problem till they banned me from the forum ,i'm not a person who give a f** about what people tell about me but that was too much..
i dont know why people always like that i mean they always relate everything about me being a transguy,my family is broken and my health getting worst day after day should i just be cool and ignore all that cause guys dont act like that!!!!! isn't that really stupid? isn't it normal to feel sad cause of my family it's my family how do u expect from someone to not be sunsitive when he see his family broken.
Sometimes, it's hard to find words to tell you how much you mean to me. A lot of times, I don't say anything at all. But I hope someday, you'll understand, having you is what I live for...(I Love you my Queen )
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Bardoux

You are absolutely right. Men can act however they want and him telling you that guy's act a certain way perhaps belies a certain insecurity on his part. No idea why people insist on so called 'binary' behaviour :(
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Marissa

Some people are incredibly narrow-minded when it comes to gender roles, and it sounds like the person who told you that has some real issues.  Just remember that is not how mature people think of what it means to be male.  I don't mean just the trans community, but mature people in general. 

Guys who are comfortable with themselves are sensitive and of course they care about family.  Him telling you that a so-called 'real man' would deny his feelings and run away from his family is absurd and immature.  Please remember that his attitude is not typical.  There are a few insecure people who would agree with him but most folks would not.

Mara
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Adam (birkin)

That guy is wrong. Lots of men, whether they are cis or trans can care about their family issues. I'm also willing to bet this guy could never handle the things that you are dealing with right now. You're doing well, Jossef, especially considering how difficult your circumstances are, so don't let anyone try to tell you otherwise.
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Mr.X

Sounds indeed like a very narrow-minded person who told you this. Unfortunately, the world is full of these types. The good part is that most people seem to think with more than just their asses, and would disagree with him wholeheartedly.

I believe that being sensitive is influenced by personality and hormones, not gender. Some guys and girls are just more sensitive than others. And when you look at our lovely MtF counterparts, you will see that they mention after taking E, they are more in touch with their emotions. This shows us that emotions and expressing them has to do with hormones as well as personality.

So regardless of what mr. dumbass told you, it has nothing to do with being a man, or in this case, not being a man. It has to do with being you. People don't just run away from their families when they have issues. They are family for a reason. They are your kin, your home.

So keep your head up high, man. People like that are not even worth your attention. 
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Magnus

In a similar predicament I had a step-family member invalidate my masculinity purely on the basis of the fact that I like cats and have two. According to him, hating cats is an absolute and irrefutable requirement of manhood. Evidently it has escaped his notice that there are a hell of a lot of "real men" on this planet that openly and secretly alike... like or (*gasp*) even love cats and are owners of them. In fact so many are "coming out" about it, that it made the news a while back (unfortunately I can't seem to pull that article up but it nevertheless happened). Yet, they're "real men". Amazing. But you know what I know that was? His inability to find an actual way to validate that opinion into fact. He couldn't do that so he thought up the most bland stereotype he possibly could to invalidate my masculinity, and to "validate" his own opinion. It didn't work. Oh yes and apparently another rigid requirement is to be on the constant prowl for sex, anywhere and anyhow and with anyone you can. While minimally true on average and more-so for men, I find myself quite exempt from that. But then there are again "real men" out there who are also in the same boat in that same department as myself (e.g. Asexual). So, go figure.

You see stereotypes are not the end-all, be-all rule of life. Stereotypes are actually opinions. And opinions really are like sphincters in that everyone has one and uses it on a daily basis. Not everyone will agree with everyone else on every thing. Most often, it is personal opinion(s) that prevents people from being able to tolerate one another and which cause the vast majority of the problems in this world (e.g. they are the number-one and root cause of war throughout all of world history). As it is for everyone, peer pressure is a real ***** of a thing. And that is precisely what this is, in a way. You have to be strong enough to not let it get to you, to influence you. Don't let it change you.

Now I don't care what race, gender, nationality or religion anyone happens to be... there is one absolute truth in this world: people are, each and every single one, unique. I mean personality and every other way there is to be. There is no right or wrong way to be who you are (although I'll hasten to add a "within reason" as I'm certainly not endorsing pedophilia, rape, murder etc. but outside those lines, anything can and does go and is not beyond the possibility of being tolerated by others; should be tolerated by others. Unfortunately again hypocrisy is another rife facet of this world).

Unfortunately it again is also a universal truth that the more taboo someone or something about someone is in whatever that taboo happens to be, the more flac they're going to get over it. People fear what they don't or else simply cannot know or understand, and for many that scares them. When people get scared they most often lash out (fear makes people insecure). It is just what happens. Unfortunately, we're about on the bottom of that hierarchy. No matter what we do or don't do, we're always going to be ostracized and criticized by other people throughout our entire lives unless of course we're stealth and can pass almost or totally all of the time. It is just part of the territory. Another unfortunate truth is that you simply can't please everyone, everyone will take offense to something or another thing about someone else. If the whole world suddenly got along with everyone and everyone with everyone else, well... that would be a wildly different universe. It sadly just isn't possible.

Before I get sliced and diced over the already stated, I'm absolutely not saying you shouldn't be upset (you have every right to be) but I am saying this is inevitable and each of us needs to find ways in which we can deal with these things and preferably without it upsetting our lives or worse our emotional state. And again I don't care what gender or anything else anyone is, we all have emotions. Even psychopaths have SOME degree of emotion (which I personally find astounding but nevertheless, that's the truth based on hard facts). That is itself the human condition. Even for "real men", whatever the hell that actually is.

You know what really puts me at ease in these and other circumstances? Knowing that 'normalcy' is about 30% of the entire human populace of the world on average. I would hardly call that enough for 'normalcy' itself to even exist. That's going right back to the fact of how everyone and everything is absolutely unique. Similar, yes... but unique. There is no 'normal', only the ideal and perception of it. We, and everything else, simply are as they are and is as it is.

Just don't allow these things to have power over you. How you find to not let that happen I can't say or suggest, but just find it and use it.


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Natkat

The guy is very ignorant
being sensetive has nothing to do with being cis or trans, man I have many cisgender friends who seams way more sensetive than me. just today I had a guy crying over me watching a movie.

Also isn't it just a good thing being sensetive of issue of your famely after all it's your famely. I haven't heard exactly the same sentence of you but I often heard the. "just leave your famely your country everything" and it actually pretty hurtfull as well cause the word JUST is so easy said than done, after all its not the persons itself who has to deal with it.

I think the guy really should consider how he would feel if he where to JUST leave his famely forever. if that just would be something easy to do if he could do that just without any sadness then either his in deny of his felling, a jerk or a very poor soul.


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