Quote from: regina on July 12, 2007, 01:08:22 PM
Which makes sense because whispering would remove a large amount of your chest resonance and women, on average, don't speak as loudly as men. But Gina, are you able to talk on the phone or outside or in a noisier place while speaking like that? Have you ever had to speak in front of other people? It seems like it could be limiting.

Women in general use more air for the volume they put out.  This results in a breathier voice than the male voice.  In fact, if you take away the breathy element, the voice tends to sound more like a gay man than a woman.  However, breathiness should not be overdone or you will sound like you're in an adult film.

By the way, I'm pretty much matching note for note with singers like Christina Aguilera (higher pitch than Billie Holiday), although something a bit lower like Bette Midler is much more comfortable.  The Christina range is about the same range I'm singing at in the musical I'm in too.  I used to be capable of matching note for note with Johnny Cash and probably still could if I tried (it actually hurts to go that low now).

Gina M., I've actually been in some situations where whispering doesn't always get heard. Even though at a nightclub with the din around me, the bartender couldn't quit ehear what I wanted , so I had to raise my voice without hitting the bass tones. Other than that I'm not much of a public speaker. But I do remeber once when I was at the same nightclub, I was talking at length with a gentleman, and he had no problems, even though we were only two feet away from each other. 

Melissa, I've tried sighing a lot, and it does help to keep my voice at that certain whisper.

Gina 

Quote from: gina_taylor on July 12, 2007, 02:01:56 PM
Melissa, I've tried sighing a lot, and it does help to keep my voice at that certain whisper.

I can yell and still sound female.  I have to do this with my kids a lot.  In fact, I can cough, sneeze, sigh, laugh, clear my throat or yawn and still sound female.

Quote from: Melissa on July 12, 2007, 02:17:29 PM

Quote from: gina_taylor on July 12, 2007, 02:01:56 PM
Melissa, I've tried sighing a lot, and it does help to keep my voice at that certain whisper.

I can yell and still sound female.  I have to do this with my kids a lot.  In fact, I can cough, sneeze, sigh, laugh, clear my throat or yawn and still sound female.

I can do so as well most of the time but I am still lacking consistency. Kathe says avoid clearing one's throat, it creates strain, take a sip of water or swallow instead. Taking good care of the vocal chords is essential.

Posted on: July 12, 2007, 11:10:28 PM

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Quote from: Melissa on July 12, 2007, 01:23:30 PM
By the way, I'm pretty much matching note for note with singers like Christina Aguilera (higher pitch than Billie Holiday), although something a bit lower like Bette Midler is much more comfortable.  The Christina range is about the same range I'm singing at in the musical I'm in too.  I used to be capable of matching note for note with Johnny Cash and probably still could if I tried (it actually hurts to go that low now).

LOL I will stick with Bille Holliday, thank you, she actually has limited range though her timbre is remarkable, I find myself occasionally hitting higher and higher notes though. Practice, practice, practice. I am still getting ma'amed on the phone consistently.

I couldn't find my feminine voice coming out of OR though but big deal, right?

Edit: Fixed quotes - Melissa

Quote from: melissa90299 on July 12, 2007, 11:18:02 PM
I couldn't find my feminine voice coming out of OR though but big deal, right?

In that situation?  Not really.  I think they had probably figured out you were TS by then.   With time and practice though, it will become your default voice and you'll use it without thinking about it.  The secret is to use it ALL the time (even in private).  Eventually you will think in that voice and own it and that would be how you sounded whether you were startled, found something too hillarious not to laugh at, or just woke up.

I am not so sure that a GG wouldn't sound gruff and male in that situation after having the tubes struck down your throat. I am still hoarse. I was talking to my sister the other day and her voice is now lower than mine. But she smokes.

i hope you dont mind me asking

can anyone recommend a electronic guitar  tuner pls in the uk and would i get this at most good guitar shops??

Quote from: Melissa on July 12, 2007, 02:17:29 PM

Quote from: gina_taylor on July 12, 2007, 02:01:56 PM
Melissa, I've tried sighing a lot, and it does help to keep my voice at that certain whisper.

I can yell and still sound female.  I have to do this with my kids a lot.  In fact, I can cough, sneeze, sigh, laugh, clear my throat or yawn and still sound female.

im exactly the same, its partly attitude, i dont really know how i do it, because it just  came for me, i did no work, so its hard to explain how. but i can scream, shout, cry, laugh, (my sneezing is hilarious apparently) and all those things, and it sounds girlyer than when i just talk, im working on a singing voice, but it apears i have little tallent so far my voice is more feminine the louder and clearer it is, which i like, i also think the femininity of your voice is affected by personality to a large extent, and behaviour, im quite a bouncy person when happy, so it comes out in my speach patterns, its all bubbly and melodic, and sounds awesome

Quote from: lighting on July 13, 2007, 03:49:20 AM
i hope you dont mind me asking

can anyone recommend a electronic guitar  tuner pls in the uk and would i get this at most good guitar shops??

The seiko I have that shows octaves has been discontinued but just about any cheap guitar tuner will do, your ear should be able to tell you that you are hitting an a3 as opposed to an a2 or an a4.

Quote from: lighting on July 13, 2007, 03:49:20 AM
i hope you dont mind me asking

can anyone recommend a electronic guitar  tuner pls in the uk and would i get this at most good guitar shops??

I recently purchased a Korg CA-30 Chromatic Tuner to help me with my voice practice and I got it on the internet - I can't find the invoice right now, but I'm sure if you type it into a search engine you will find one.
Best wishes, Louise

Quote from: melissa90299 on July 13, 2007, 02:38:17 AM
I am not so sure that a GG wouldn't sound gruff and male in that situation after having the tubes struck down your throat. I am still hoarse. I was talking to my sister the other day and her voice is now lower than mine. But she smokes.

Yeah, but you said you couldn't "find" the voice.  Not physically being able to do it is another matter.  If you have a bad cold, are you still able to sound female?  I know that challenges many TS.  I just use the same muscles and I sound like a woman with a cold.  In fact, I've never had a problem with having a cold and passing even over the phone.

Quote from: louise000 on July 13, 2007, 07:16:58 AM

Quote from: lighting on July 13, 2007, 03:49:20 AM
i hope you dont mind me asking

can anyone recommend a electronic guitar  tuner pls in the uk and would i get this at most good guitar shops??

I recently purchased a Korg CA-30 Chromatic Tuner to help me with my voice practice and I got it on the internet - I can't find the invoice right now, but I'm sure if you type it into a search engine you will find one.
Best wishes, Louise

thank you for the information
amanda

Quote from: Melissa on July 13, 2007, 10:27:00 AM

Quote from: melissa90299 on July 13, 2007, 02:38:17 AM
I am not so sure that a GG wouldn't sound gruff and male in that situation after having the tubes struck down your throat. I am still hoarse. I was talking to my sister the other day and her voice is now lower than mine. But she smokes.

Yeah, but you said you couldn't "find" the voice.  Not physically being able to do it is another matter.  If you have a bad cold, are you still able to sound female?  I know that challenges many TS.  I just use the same muscles and I sound like a woman with a cold.  In fact, I've never had a problem with having a cold and passing even over the phone.

same, once you cant help sounding female, not much changes that... if you dont when you cough, or laugh, or cry, or have a cold, you know it still needs work.