Quote from: Edge on September 22, 2013, 02:03:34 PM
Do you ever have those friends who are supportive and do refer to you with the right name and pronouns and stuff, but then they say something about it being a choice? And you feel bad about pointing out that it's not a choice because you know they mean well, but...

Sometimes 'support' IS support, but I think it is also always possible, that we call it support and it might be closer to them 'humouring' us. The might not really understand, they might not even want to understand, they might not care if they understand or not. Using proper manner of speech is free after all, and might simply not cost them anything.

They might also be just doing it for the points eh, some people like to be seen as 'supporters' of a cause. And the last thing I think any of us wants, it to be someone's poster example for a cause.

This is the all time worst one from my mom, she dosen't know i am one, after i let slip a crime against one of us "good, those people don't deserve to live."

Quote from: Edge on September 22, 2013, 02:03:34 PM
Do you ever have those friends who are supportive and do refer to you with the right name and pronouns and stuff, but then they say something about it being a choice? And you feel bad about pointing out that it's not a choice because you know they mean well, but...

I actually don't mind when someone refers to it as a choice. It's an opportunity to educate them, and I'm comfortable that I've taken it upon myself to educate my little part of the world about transgender (because no one else is going to do it).

I usually say, "to me, it didn't really feel like a choice."

Quote from: Xhianil on September 22, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
This is the all time worst one from my mom, she dosen't know i am one, after i let slip a crime against one of us "good, those people don't deserve to live."

Wow...

Quote from: Xhianil on September 22, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
This is the all time worst one from my mom, she dosen't know i am one, after i let slip a crime against one of us "good, those people don't deserve to live."

There's a saying I read years ago...something about being careful what one says, for you may have to eat them tomorrow...

Quote from: Beth Andrea on September 22, 2013, 06:51:48 PM
There's a saying I read years ago...something about being careful what one says, for you may have to eat them tomorrow...

You may have to eat who?  The person you're saying things to?

I'm just kidding....but the saying does make more sense if you make sure "words" is the subject of the sentence since that is what you'll be eating in the morning.

Quote from: Xhianil on September 22, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
This is the all time worst one from my mom, she dosen't know i am one, after i let slip a crime against one of us "good, those people don't deserve to live."

Wow. She sounds like a real peach.

Quote from: Anonymous User on September 22, 2013, 07:14:26 PM
You may have to eat who?  The person you're saying things to?

I'm just kidding....but the saying does make more sense if you make sure "words" is the subject of the sentence since that is what you'll be eating in the morning.

+1 English 101 to you.

Quote from: Carrie Liz on September 22, 2013, 06:47:11 PM


Wow...

And for now... There i live...

Today I was told that food stamps and other handouts made me trans by confusing me about my role in society.

Christ this thread has been heavy lately.

Quote from: Felix on September 25, 2013, 01:18:54 AM
Christ this thread has been heavy lately.

Well...it comes and goes. Whether brutal or light-hearted...it is what it is.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on September 25, 2013, 01:31:10 AM
Well...it comes and goes. Whether brutal or light-hearted...it is what it is.

Yeah I just felt bad adding to the heavy. Usually when I post a stupid reaction I've gotten I can be distant and snarky about it.

Quote from: Felix on September 25, 2013, 01:17:50 AM
Today I was told that food stamps and other handouts made me trans by confusing me about my role in society.

Seriously?

It amazes me how people fall over themselves to find reasons why someone isn't who they say they are (especially if they're young, and especially if they're not gender-stereotypical even as trans* people). I'm finding this with mental health issues too.

Quote from: Felix on September 25, 2013, 01:17:50 AM
Today I was told that food stamps and other handouts made me trans by confusing me about my role in society.

Occasionally I encounter comments of similar magnitude. My usual reaction is to react like the person is a complete and utter moron retard and about any other intellect questioning term that springs to my thoughts at the moment.

We all have this problem eventually. Stupidity in that level of severity is simply impossible to remain polite with.

Quote from: Felix on September 25, 2013, 01:17:50 AM
Today I was told that food stamps and other handouts made me trans by confusing me about my role in society.

I grew up with the admonition, "Real men *never* get on welfare...being dependent makes one less of a man."

Which is BS of course...real men take care of their family, by whatever means are available.

I know you're a good man and parent, Felix...some people will use whatever criticism they can to try and make one feel bad...and that's the reason for this thread: to show our brothers and sisters some of the garbage they may encounter, and to make them stronger by working out within themselves "how would I respond to that?"

Thanks for sharing.

I thought that published stats showed vast numbers of relatively well-off families had been accessing food stamps due to the US economic crisis.

Quote from: Felix on September 25, 2013, 01:17:50 AM
Today I was told that food stamps and other handouts made me trans by confusing me about my role in society.

No, it makes you have common sense by doing what you need to do to look after yourself and your own.

Stubbornly refusing help which is there exactly because it is needed for certain situations in one's life doesn't make one anything other than stubborn. Gender has nothing to do with it.

To quote John Donne:

"No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main."

"and your therapist is sure that this is different than gay?"--my dad

I was talking with my sister in-law today about my upcoming appointment with my gender specialist. I told her that I was planing on scheduling my orchiectomy for sometime next year.

She replied back "are you sure? Thats a big decision."
Me "If I was unsure I would have stopped taking estrogen by now."
Her "So true. I'm so happy that you found YOU!!"