It's great to hear some different perspectives on this, from both sides of the coin (MtF and FtM)

I thought I was odd that I don't necessarily hate it all the time, as I mentioned in my opening post its the erections I dislike more than anything.

One thing I want to pass on to you other girls out there is that I have successfully trained my erections away with about a 95% success, that is to say it doesn't go hard every time I am aroused and I NEVER get unsolicited erections any more. Certain things will set the little bugger off but I am too busy enjoying myself when that does happen.

Another footnote, if you tuck it between your legs and press your hand over it you can masturbate and climax wonderfully with the rubbing motions much akin to our genetic girl friends!

Quote from: Lesley_Roberta on October 04, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
Of course I also have the worry, that I get the surgery and then I turn into a horny woman that can't keep her panties on for 5 minutes without wanting to fiddle with herself

Now if that is your main concern... you are fine
I had a GF like that - she could not stand that I had more days without the desire to do this than days I wanted it - didnt match up, sadly

I hate that damn thing and I want it gone.

The act of intercourse before my "rebirth" always seemed unnatural, awkward, and wrong....like trying to paint a picture with mechanic's tools (Even though I was apparently pretty good at it).

But it has been many, many years now since I have even tried. I don't have any desire to use what I was born with at all...even satisfying myself is impossible.

I won't even consider a relationship, or sexual satisfaction again until I have the proper parts. I realize this will be a few years from now, and I'm fine with that, if a bit impatient. I want to live as a whole person, and I bitterly regret not realizing or admitting to myself what was wrong with me years ago. So much of my life wasted trying to be something that I am not.

I only hope that it is not too late to live a normal life now, once this deformity has been corrected. I would rather die in surgery than live like this.

Quote from: TaoRaven on October 05, 2013, 09:58:01 AM
I hate that damn thing and I want it gone.

The act of intercourse before my "rebirth" always seemed unnatural, awkward, and wrong....like trying to paint a picture with mechanic's tools (Even though I was apparently pretty good at it).

But it has been many, many years now since I have even tried. I don't have any desire to use what I was born with at all...even satisfying myself is impossible.

I won't even consider a relationship, or sexual satisfaction again until I have the proper parts. I realize this will be a few years from now, and I'm fine with that, if a bit impatient. I want to live as a whole person, and I bitterly regret not realizing or admitting to myself what was wrong with me years ago. So much of my life wasted trying to be something that I am not.

I only hope that it is not too late to live a normal life now, once this deformity has been corrected. I would rather die in surgery than live like this.

I can relate.  I'm a virgin and may very well remain that way until SRS.  Yeah, there are other ways, but the body dysphoria is a huge factor for some of us.

I have to agree, it's very to see interesting how different we are!
As I'm easing myself into life as a male, I find that I don't really mind what's downstairs all that much, probably because I only really have to bother with it once a month. Sometimes, I wish I could have the genitals of a biological man but that's more wishful thinking than anything else. Really, I'm just worried about top surgery and HRT and I'm pretty sure I can ignore the rest and be relatively happy.
You know, I wish it was possible to have, like, a trade system or something. I'd be happy to give my lady parts to a beautiful woman who was meant to be born with them.

OneLateWizard, I am with you most of the way. That day or so of cramps is bad for me, then using tampons for the rest of my shark week is alright.  I do wish ever so often how nice it would be to stand to pee, have dreams of camping and standing outside the tent at night peeing on a tree. Top surgery and T are definitely first on my list.

i don't think about it. honestly the idea of moving things around down there sounds uncomfortable, i don't think i would ever get bottom surgery. but that is just me. plus it's so expensive, for something im not even 100% bothered about. but my problem is opposite yours so i wouldn't know.

Quote from: learningtolive on October 05, 2013, 11:57:23 AM
I can relate.  I'm a virgin and may very well remain that way until SRS.  Yeah, there are other ways, but the body dysphoria is a huge factor for some of us.

Same for me, still a virgin and I've never even kissed a girl or felt in love with one. Even though I'm attracted to men I still don't feel anything desirable as I am right now still being pre everything. I know I'm a heterosexual female and I don't think/feel like I can fall in love with a man until I'm as much of a woman as I can be through the transition phases.

As for what goes on below right now every time it does something I make this face if it weren't needed to be flipped inside out to become a vagina I honestly wouldn't care if the darn thing fell off and I didn't have to deal with it being there anymore.

If you are on HRT for a long time and have a lessened libido you may experience some atrophy or shrinkage. This may make SRS harder the longer it goes on,as there is less material to use then for penile inversion. If you dont do penile inversion as SRS technique I guess it may be less of a problem?

Balls are stupid.  Creationists just need to look down.  What dumb ass puts a dangly bag of ...  duuuhhhhh.... its as bad as the off button on a samsung galaxy being where your index finger goes when you pick it up.

But seriously I dont feel my downstairs bits are mine and SRS is on the cards.  But is not hatred or disgust... the best way to explain it is I dont seem to have the right drivers installed for it.

I have a profound sense of loss at the fact that I'm missing some vital parts of my body that should have always been there. I don't particularly mind the bits that are there, because they're out of sight so I don't have to think about them too much. I just want to get the right equipment in place so that I can take an active, equal part in a loving homosexual relationship. Is that too much to ask? *le dramatic sigh*

However, I'm delighted with the progress I'm making on HRT, and I'm looking forward to getting some surgical reinforcement in a couple of years' time.

when i think about it, what i got downstairs doesn't really bother me. there's just something missing, but i can live without it.

what really bothers me is my chest. not like i'm conscious of it all the time, but i notice very well how much more it bothers me in shower rooms. being pre-everything i of course go to the "right" place. most women i've observed have no problems walking around topless or in their bra, while still wearing their pants. i on the other hand, will take off absolutely everything before i take off my bra. even when taking a shower at home. and the bra is also the first thing that come on.

when i'm naked in dreams, i'll also cover my chest rather than what i (don't) have downstairs.

Quote from: Taka on October 07, 2013, 04:38:04 PM
when i think about it, what i got downstairs doesn't really bother me. there's just something missing, but i can live without it.

what really bothers me is my chest. not like i'm conscious of it all the time, but i notice very well how much more it bothers me in shower rooms. being pre-everything i of course go to the "right" place. most women i've observed have no problems walking around topless or in their bra, while still wearing their pants. i on the other hand, will take off absolutely everything before i take off my bra. even when taking a shower at home. and the bra is also the first thing that come on.

I was the same way.

Quote from: Taka on October 07, 2013, 04:38:04 PM
when i think about it, what i got downstairs doesn't really bother me. there's just something missing, but i can live without it.

what really bothers me is my chest. not like i'm conscious of it all the time, but i notice very well how much more it bothers me in shower rooms. being pre-everything i of course go to the "right" place. most women i've observed have no problems walking around topless or in their bra, while still wearing their pants. i on the other hand, will take off absolutely everything before i take off my bra. even when taking a shower at home. and the bra is also the first thing that come on.

when i'm naked in dreams, i'll also cover my chest rather than what i (don't) have downstairs.

The chest is my biggest bit of dysphoria, too! Downstairs is just something extra - it'd be nice to get rid of it... but it may never happen.

Ooohhh its SO frustrating we cant all just swap body parts.
You poor guys have to go through so many procedures,  and have to put up with quite obvious scars too (mind you big scars does add a bit of delta-force bad ass imo).  I would gladly donate you a set of testes if it where possible lads. 

Sigh.

I heard someone's doing medical laser printing research... actually printing cells into replacement parts.   Can you imagine what that tech could do for us?

Quote from: Confused87 on October 03, 2013, 09:51:14 PM
I don't think I have dysphoria at all. I certainly don't have any animosity towards my male genitals. In fact the whole non-binary thing is a massive interest to me and makes me feel like I'm less alone. As mentioned above I want to be perceived as female. What is between my legs holds no real sway in my want to BE female. So when my doctor asked me if I would be willing to pay privately for SRS I was like...um....Yes?

I honestly don't want it right now, maybe later on that will change but right now I'm happy to have a girl cock

3 years later and 1.5 years into HRT my position has changed somewhat. I'm not dysphoric about my genitals but it doesn't feel like mine? It's not an important part of who I am anymore and it's awkward during sex as I shouldn't have it and its just in the way. So that's definitely something that changed during transition

I wish I lived on a world where everyone has the same general gender (like dogs or cats - you have to pick them up or look under to see what they are).  There would be no need to transition.  I don't understand this world of male-female duality and the spectrum in between.  I don't belong in this world.  I'm going back to the world I think I came from (pre-birth).  There will be no further reply from me on this thread, nor will I read further on this thread.

Since I'm a lesbian and wanted a family those parts have come in handy,i have no bottom dysphoria learned to live with what I have and I like skin to skin contact and the feel of sex. Sometimes I wish my breasts would have grown more then a borderline B cup but it's the best I have without hrt.

I don't hate my genitals but I really hate "morning wood" it's really embarrassing and uncomfortable...depending on effects of hrt I could live with it .... I think

I'm tired of getting my tweezers out every time I go to pee. Peeing on myself because George isn't long enough to avoid it. I would have srs if it were possible unfortunately for me it is not.