I am in the process of putting together resources for people interested in retransitioning to their birth gender and deciding if it is for them.  It would be great if there was a forum here for people making additional transitions after their first that I could link to.  I think that there are enough people starting to talk about this subject in a non judgmental way that a forum for this discussion would help a lot of people out.

I actually think this is a really good idea. I find that people who detransition, whether it's for practical reasons (as in, they can't find a job because of their trans status) or for personal reasons (they realized they weren't really trans at all) don't have a lot of support and have their own unique challenges.

I'm new here and joined the board in the hopes of finding some detransition resources/support/similar situations.

I was a MTF on prescribed HRT for nearly 2 years, and have *greatly* struggled since going off 2 years ago. If anybody has any good links, or threads, forums, I'm all ears

I would like to see this too (obviously). Although the Non-Op has been my haunt for the last few years.

Actually let me clarify. I would like to see a section of the site for non-transitioners and re-transitioners. They will need a lot of the same kind of support. It could even be a subheading under non-op

Not to say you shouldn't get your new blog just for re-transitioners.

Yes I think both would be helpful.  Does anyone review these requests?  Just curious what the protocol would be to get either of these happening?

The Forum Administrator set up a "Non-transitioning Board" under the main Transgender Talk board.

Quote from: retransition on October 15, 2013, 03:23:07 PM
Yes I think both would be helpful.  Does anyone review these requests?  Just curious what the protocol would be to get either of these happening?

Yes we review them!

Give me an argument why it doesn't fit under Non-transitioning and I'll consider it. We have space limitations that is the reason for not just doing it.

Cindy

Quote from: Cindy on January 21, 2014, 01:16:20 AM
Yes we review them!

Give me an argument why it doesn't fit under Non-transitioning and I'll consider it. We have space limitations that is the reason for not just doing it.

Cindy

Maybe because non-transitioning doesn't really include detrans. I mean, it's one thing to decide not to pursue transition, but it's a lot different to go down that path and then reverse direction. I would imagine that would be a very difficult and painful experience.

I would support it.

I agree with the reasoning, I think that someone undergoing a physical detransition is different from someone who never went through the process in the first place.

I think detransition is something that needs to be talked about. Sometimes, people do either need to detransition for practical reasons (and might need support and coping tips), and sometimes, they weren't really meant to transition in the first place (in which case, they still need to figure themselves out all over again). In the case of those who weren't really trans, it might help newcomers who aren't sure balance things out - maybe they have other issues going on and need to see both sides of the story, you know?

Sub under non-transitioning?

Yeah, I can see that making sense. In a way it's...not transitioning to the other sex, since you go back and therefore return to your somewhat original state.

Done
I modified Non-transition to include de-transition. It saves me space and feels OK to me

I think that was a good idea actually...both would be too tiny on their own now that I think of it.

Quote from: caleb. on January 21, 2014, 04:35:05 AM
I think that was a good idea actually...both would be too tiny on their own now that I think of it.

That's what I thought as well.

OMG do staff think!!! Cindy falls into a brown paper bag and disappears


Heeee Heeeee

The thing is, retransitioning and not transitioning are totally different things.  Retransition has more in common with transitioning in the first place.  You have to change documents.  You have to worry about hormone related changes (e.g., after taking T, will I be stuck with a guy voice?).  There is a social transition and worries about passing as ones originally assigned gender.  There are hormone questions.  Etc, etc, etc. 

What does this have to do with non-transitioning?  Nothing that I can discern.  It seems quite the opposite.

I appreciate and applaud the willingness to address the issue in a more open way.  I think that's a very good thing.  But putting it into the non-transitioning forum seems like putting a discussion of aquarium maintenance into a forum about desert travel.  And certainly it seems unlikely to help people in that situation to find I one another or their issues.  Perhaps it would make sense to reach out to the original poster and ask for input? 

Quote from: ThePhoenix on January 21, 2014, 07:00:45 AM
The thing is, retransitioning and not transitioning are totally different things.  Retransition has more in common with transitioning in the first place.  You have to change documents.  You have to worry about hormone related changes (e.g., after taking T, will I be stuck with a guy voice?).  There is a social transition and worries about passing as ones originally assigned gender.  There are hormone questions.  Etc, etc, etc. 

What does this have to do with non-transitioning?  Nothing that I can discern.  It seems quite the opposite.

I appreciate and applaud the willingness to address the issue in a more open way.  I think that's a very good thing.  But putting it into the non-transitioning forum seems like putting a discussion of aquarium maintenance into a forum about desert travel.  And certainly it seems unlikely to help people in that situation to find I one another or their issues.  Perhaps it would make sense to reach out to the original poster and ask for input?

Retransition may have its own issues, but it, like transitioning, is temporary in nature.  One does not transition nor retransition forever - they have a final state. 

The next state of a retransitioner might very well be temporary as they wait for another opportunity to transition or it may be non-transitioning as it is with me.  If this is the case, they need the same support a non-transitioner does - how to live with GD without transition. 

In my experience most who retransition (and I have known many) become non-transitioning.  We usually have our own little nooks on the internet because transitioning individuals like to tell us they have the only way and throw doubt on our authenticity as transsexuals/transgendered individuals if we don't agree.   Another discussion for another time though.

So while it might deserve its own attention, ultimately support can be found from other places on this board.  Still, I have no problem with its inclusion.

Shouldn't we be having this discussion on the new board?

As someone who detransitioned after 26 months on HRT I can confirm it is a terrible process, or it was for me. Retransitioning some 22 years later hasn't been without it's hurdles either!

Quote from: Ms Grace on January 23, 2014, 08:40:14 PM
Shouldn't we be having this discussion on the new board?

As someone who detransitioned after 26 months on HRT I can confirm it is a terrible process, or it was for me. Retransitioning some 22 years later hasn't been without it's hurdles either!

How come you decided to detranstion? I'm just wondering. The subject fascinates me. I think the problem is that a lot of times if someone decides to detransition, they often drop out of the community and want nothing to do with it. I know if I decided to stop, I would cut all of my new friends and BF off and act like this never happened and would wipe Susans and all my posts and this whole experience from memory. FYI, If my avatar goes to guest and I become a ghost here, I detransitioned. If I'm just annoyed or need a break, no matter how long, I would keep my avatar active and just log off. I wouldn't erase myself.

Did you do the whole "it wasn't me" thing or how did you approach life after. You probably have some very unique insights to offer. Thanks!

I did write about it in some detail in some post somewhere but I can't find it just at the moment so can't link to it. Essentially it was a perfect storm of variables, unhappy with progress on HRT (two years and tiny, tiny bumps for boobs), feeling emotionally and financially insecure, afraid to come out to my family, being alone, alienated and professionally unsupported...a whole bunch of things.

This was the early 1990s, there may have been a community in Sydney, but there wasn't anything online (no internet to speak of) and I wasn't part of anything. But yes, I did cut myself off from the notion of being trans*, decided I must have been delusional and went into denial. I'm ashamed to say I became transphobic and even homophobic, not in any overt way - I kept that to myself, certainly never turned it into a manifesto against others but it was still a reprehensible attitude. It's the only way I could "prove" there was "nothing wrong" with myself. Sad, sad, sad.

Even though I've been thinking about retransitioning for the last 14 years, it was those attitudes and the memory of the last attempt that kept me away. But the desire, the raw need to be a woman won out in the end. It was either retransition or drown myself in anti-depressants. So here I am, 7 months in on HRT and wondering why the hell it took me so long to pull my head out if my a$$!