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What are your fears as an androgyne?

Started by Kendall, July 16, 2007, 08:03:40 AM

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What are your fears that cause trouble, hesitation, discomfort, blockage, nightmares, inaction, inability to accept, social fears, and / or physical fears?

Fear of Rejection [disapproval, being ignored] from Others. [family, friends, work, partner, society, religion, other groups, world]
13 (37.1%)
Fear of Self Success. [self-sabotage, procrastination, negative thinking]
6 (17.1%)
Fear of the Unknown
6 (17.1%)
Financial fears
7 (20%)
Fear of being Labelled [defined by others, being held hostage by definitions, inability to be unique]
9 (25.7%)
Fear of Pain [feeling pain, hurt, depressed, alone, lost, confused.]
6 (17.1%)
Fear of Expression [inability to communicate to others about self, shyness, feeling of being judged, held hostage in solitude or in own home]
8 (22.9%)
Fear of Violence [Fear of being physically harmed, molested, raped, or killed]
8 (22.9%)
Fear of Self-Rejection or Self-Acceptance [Suicidal thoughts]
4 (11.4%)
Fear of Being TS or CD [not Androgyne]
4 (11.4%)
Fear of Taking Risk with negative result [Failure, making mistake, being judge, repeating past mistake]
6 (17.1%)
Fear of Authorative Figure [Parent, Boss] [being told or forced what to do , being embarrassed]
7 (20%)
Fear from feeling Guilty
8 (22.9%)
Fear of Event
2 (5.7%)
Fear of Object [Something related to Androyne]
1 (2.9%)
I have no fears
3 (8.6%)
Fear of my body (Body parts, Image, anatomy)
4 (11.4%)
Fearing my lack of fear
2 (5.7%)
Romantic and intimate relationship fears
8 (22.9%)

Total Members Voted: 35

Kendall

I can add on more options, so make sure to suggest other fears, and come back to check for new options. Vote multiple answers, whichever applies to you, suggest other options, comment on answers, and share expriences if you wish.

Ken/Kendra
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Pica Pica

I'm mostly scared on setting goals for myself and failing to reach them, feeling that I have failed myself in some way. I am also scared that I will never be able to find my own cosy spot in the world or having found it will not be able to settle there.
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sparkles

this is a really good post to have on here and will hopefully address a lot of fears people have and hopefully show they are not the only ones to have them. in relation to the whole androgany thing, my biggist fear is that i will be to scared to be the  real me and block myself. i am so worryed as to what other people think of me and use that as an excuse for not following what is in my head. in reality the only person that cares about it is me. recently i have thought sod em im doing it anyway and you know whats happened nothing no one said anything or the things they said are nothing (like your hairs a bit different or is that another ear ring). The biggest fear is all in my head ive built it up over years and years to something it is not. having been in the trans community for years i have found this a lot more frightening as this is really me and im not hiding behind a persona. Also my other big fear is like pica will i be able to settle were i am when i get to where im gonig to and just where is it i am going that does worry me so fear of the future is one you could add.
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RebeccaFog


Only fear of the future, in that, it worries me that I'll never fully grasp my own nature. No problems elsewhere  ;D
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Laurry

Great poll, K.  Yet another one I couldn't resist...dang you!  :)

Here are my answers (and some of the reasons why)...well, you asked for it...

Rejection - It is difficult enough to admit to ourselves that we are not what we were raised to be.  After a lot of internal struggle, we finally come to accept that this is who and how we are.  That alone is scary and takes a while to reach, and I would never have made it without the wonderful folks here at Susan's.  Still, there comes a time when you have to start living as your true self and tell those around you how you really feel inside.  So, you tell your best friend...then maybe a family member.  We would like to think our friends and family would understand, but we can never be 100% sure, and we have heard so many stories of unacceptance that it takes a big leap to tell those closest to us.  Yes, this is a very big fear in my life.

Self-success - I'll share one of my favorite quotes at the end, but I think it answers this fear with the opening lines..."Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.  Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.  It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us."  It is the old fear that if I do too well at something that everyone will expect me to be perfect or that I will suddenly become "the expert".  It is self-doubt and feelings of self-worth (am I really that special?) that hinders me and prevents me from reaching my potential.

Financial - I have a great job that I truly enjoy (at least most of the time  :D).  I have a fear that if I express too much of gender identity that I could lose it.  No, I would not be fired because of how I looked or what I did, I would simply be added to the list of those let go during the next layoff.  Things are scary enough in today's job market (and I could be laid off any time) without adding something that is out of the mainstream.  So, yes, there are financial fears preventing me from being my true self at work.

Feeling Guilty - Being raised in the church (Southern Baptist) I was spoon-fed guilt from an early age.  That was one of the major hurdles I had to cross in my self-acceptance.  Knowing how my decisions affect those I care about, there is still an major struggle between doing what I know I have to do for me to be happy and knowing how it hurts those I care most about.  In the end, I have to do what I have to do, and the guilt of hurting others is part of the price I must pay for being myself.  I had the same issues when I left my wife several years ago...I know it impacted her and it impacted my son, but it was either leave or completely withdraw from life.  The same thing applies here, but it still makes me feel lousy.

I hope this helps some other folks out there who are struggling.  If you are going through any of these and want to talk to someone who is as lost as you are, drop me a line.

.......Laurry

Quote
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others."

Marianne Williamson
A Return to Love (1992), Chapter 7
Ya put your right foot in.  You put your right foot out.  You put your right foot in and you shake it all about.  You do the Andro-gyney and you turn yourself around.  That's what it's all about.
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no_id

I could look over those options numerous times and potentially relate to all of them. However, in the end none of them are my fears, and additionally; I don't have any fears is also not optional.

Perhaps the following does not only relate to androgyny, but to every single aspect of my life since my actually fear is: fearing my lack of fear... [insert mysterious music]. This often pushes me towards dilemma's and endless spirals of thought; "Wait, should I worry about this? Should I be scared of this?..." And it wouldn't be a first if my blithe spirit got me into trouble (after all, it wouldn't be all that bad to consider certain possible consequences before jumping from a bridge or walking into a Christian gathering with a rainbow flag...) Nevertheless, I am getting rather good at pushing myself to give issues some rational thought before I actually start worrying about them, but I don't think I will ever cease to be impulsive and if that will make me end up dead on the side of the road is not something I worry over. ;)
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Pica Pica

didn't realise these fears were as an androgyne...I have none of them, my fears are of being a young hu.man setting out into the world,
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Tay

My biggest fear?

See, I hate my body.  I want rid of my breasts and my uterus.  I want to look totally neutral.

I fear being trapped in this body as it is now forever.  This fear is crippling and causes me depression and pain every day.
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Doc

Yeah. I'm very uncomfortable with having breasts and fear I may have them all my life. I fear that as I grow older I will become dumpy and matronly-looking and end up uncomfortable about my entire body and not just my breasts.

Even though we've talked about it and I know better, I fear that my spouse will fall in love with a woman or a man and that his attraction to me isn't really about me, but about avoiding a sex-related anxiety that real men and women set off but I don't.
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RebeccaFog


I was okay, but half of you are scaring me    :'(
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Shana A

At one time or another I've experienced almost all of these fears. I believe that it's important to confront our fears and overcome them to grow, otherwise we are consumed by them. Hopefully I'm doing that.

I've previously seen that Marianne Williamson quote before, I like it, didn't it originally come from something that Ghandi said?

zythyra
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Laurry

Quote from: Rebis on July 16, 2007, 06:42:10 PM

I was okay, but half of you are scaring me    :'(


That's OK, Rebis, half of us ARE pretty scary...you should see me in the morning...YIKES!!!  Better yet, NOBODY should have to see me in the morning, the side-effects could be hazardous to their health.

...Laurry, the Morning Medusa-haired one
Ya put your right foot in.  You put your right foot out.  You put your right foot in and you shake it all about.  You do the Andro-gyney and you turn yourself around.  That's what it's all about.
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Emerald

Quote from: Ken/Kendra on July 16, 2007, 08:03:40 AM
What are your fears as an androgyne?

I'm Gender-blessed! No Androgyne fears here! Nada. Zip. Zero.

I'm quite surprised romantic and intimate relationship fears aren't listed. It's the only situation I can think of where being an Androgyne may be a contributing source of apprehension. Psychological Androgynes are highly adaptable but many find it difficult to thrive when paired with a Cisgender significant other. Major gender role conflicts are common to Cisgender/Androgyne relationships.

-Emerald  :icon_mrgreen:
Androgyne.
I am not Trans-masculine, I am not Trans-feminine.
I am not Bigender, Neutrois or Genderqueer.
I am neither Cisgender nor Transgender.
I am of the 'gender' which existed before the creation of the binary genders.
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shawnael

I'm scared that people won't be able to accept me or will think that I'm pretending to be bigender for the sake of being different. I'm afraid that they won't understand me, and will try to make excuses for my behavior. I'm afraid that if I let Kenny express himself, I'll be ridiculed and be told to "act like a girl." I'm afraid that I will never be able to have a healthy intimate relationship in which my partner will be able to love both of us. I'm afraid to buy a binder, in the event that my parents find out about me and I'm scared that they'll tell me to stop being this way.

Most of all, I'm afraid of being alone.
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Kendall

Added new options based on the feedback and responses, so look over the bottom few new options. You can "Remove Vote" then Revote again to change your vote.

Thanks for the honest responses and comments.

Ken / Kendra
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Pica Pica

changed my vote, removed them all and put only relationship issues. That is my only problem with androgyny... I and society knows how a man or woman dates, neither us nor the world knows how an androgyne dates. Makes things hard and a little frightening. But I am more frightened about finding my own place in the world and acquiring financial and physical independence then anything.
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Tay

I'm not sure if this counts as a fear or not or even what it goes under...

See, if I do manage to get my body resurfaced so that it looks how I need it to, my fiancĂ©e will no longer be physically attracted to me.  I've accepted that--long before she did, I might add--and I can live a celibate life with cuddles and allow her to get her sexual needs fulfilled elsewhere.  We've talked about it.

I fear or am apprehensive that when she is no longer physically attracted to me, she'll forget to cuddle me because she'll have no motivation to do so.  Cuddles have been promised because in order to be mentally okay, I need human touch.  So this is something that makes me nervous.  And sometimes makes me think it would be better to live trapped in a body that does not make sense rather than give up cuddling.
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Kendall

My Greatest Fears right now are:
Fear of Violence - I live in a town were weird things happen. People get attacked, raped, and killed for irrational reasons. Just by being who I am, I run a risk of insulting someone's beliefs in an irrational way, that may lead to their own actions.

Financial fears - Last year I came out at my prior workplace which was very hard. If I can do it again at my current job, I still fear anything non performance wise, that could lead to work related stress, discomfort, or even termination.

Fear of the Unknown
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chillin

Fear of coming out.

Fear of rejection.
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