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Started by Ms Grace, November 02, 2013, 05:18:27 PM

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Ms Grace

After just a bit more than four months on HRT I have some fairly noticeable developments on the boob front. Compared to my first attempt where I doubt I managed AA even after 26 months I'm already an A and on my way to B. That itchy tender nipple/breast thing that cis girls get going through puberty? I've got it in spades, it's as if I can feel my ladies growing.

I'm not rubbing it in to those who are struggling with theirs, from past experience I know how disheartening that can be. To be honest I didn't expect all that much to happen from my new transition and especially not so soon. Not just because of the poor results last time but also because I'm 20+ years older and that's generally meant to make it even harder to get growth, isn't it? Maybe it's because I had left over glandular development, or a different HRT regime... I don't know and my endo didn't offer any explanation when I asked. My sister is kinda huge (G?) but has had three kids too and it certainly didn't appear to be a factor the first time... maybe I was just around the corner from a growth spurt when I bailed.

Anyway, it's great, I'm happy and surprised. I'm hoping for at least a C, don't know how comfortable it will be to have a bust much larger.

But I'm also a bit freaked. If they keep up at this rate they're going to be a bit hard to conceal while I remain in guy mode. If it wasn't for the need to repopulate my hairline and depopulate my beard (both with a minimum 6 month timeline) I'd seriously be considering full time now. And I sure don't want to bind them... so that means it's going to be an interesting six months!

Any suggestions, similar experiences?

Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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brionnaclaire

Quote from: Grace_C on November 02, 2013, 05:18:27 PM
After just a bit more than four months on HRT I have some fairly noticeable developments on the boob front. Compared to my first attempt where I doubt I managed AA even after 26 months I'm already an A and on my way to B. That itchy tender nipple/breast thing that cis girls get going through puberty? I've got it in spades, it's as if I can feel my ladies growing.

I'm not rubbing it in to those who are struggling with theirs, from past experience I know how disheartening that can be. To be honest I didn't expect all that much to happen from my new transition and especially not so soon. Not just because of the poor results last time but also because I'm 20+ years older and that's generally meant to make it even harder to get growth, isn't it? Maybe it's because I had left over glandular development, or a different HRT regime... I don't know and my endo didn't offer any explanation when I asked. My sister is kinda huge (G?) but has had three kids too and it certainly didn't appear to be a factor the first time... maybe I was just around the corner from a growth spurt when I bailed.

Anyway, it's great, I'm happy and surprised. I'm hoping for at least a C, don't know how comfortable it will be to have a bust much larger.

But I'm also a bit freaked. If they keep up at this rate they're going to be a bit hard to conceal while I remain in guy mode. If it wasn't for the need to repopulate my hairline and depopulate my beard (both with a minimum 6 month timeline) I'd seriously be considering full time now. And I sure don't want to bind them... so that means it's going to be an interesting six months!

Any suggestions, similar experiences?

Got to admit I'm a little jelly Grace! I've always wanted my own boobs. I'm really overweight right now so I have a large chest but I know it is not the same. I'm not yet on HRT and I'm not sure yet if I ever will go on it, but I can already relate to your concerns about people noticing the beautiful changes that are bound to happen. By the way, you look really cute in your avatar pic.

Lots of love from the new girl.
Claire
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sam79

Hehe congratulations Grace :)

My girls have not been growing as quickly, but are slow and steady. Just an A cup after 7 months HRT. They also beat my electrolysis ( which will take ~1 year ). And they're still very tender and sore, so they're still growing. I'm hoping for a large B to a C cup, a very comfortable size.

Still, an A-cup on my fairly feminine frame is very difficult to hide without a tight compression bra, or binding. But I will do neither, both because I'm proud of them, and because I don't want to limit development by squashing them.

About two months ago I stopped hiding them while in "boy mode". Most of that decision was because I was so proud of them, that I couldn't bring myself to hide them any more. It was difficult at first, mainly to do with the attention from the public, but I got used to it quickly. So while I'm still "boy" mode at work ( although kinda failing at that hehe ), unless I wear a doona, my boobs are clearly visible with just an unpadded moulded bra for support.

My suggestion... so long as it doesn't put you in personal danger, let them loose ( in a bra ) and enjoy :). Who cares what people think?
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androgynouspainter26

As someone who dresses pretty frequently in a way that's considered more "masculine", I can tell you from personal experience that how much you show comes down to what you wear.  In a button down, they won't show until you're at least a B (at least on someone who is both tall and fairly broad-chested, which I'm guessing most of us are).  If you're lucky enough to find yourself growing even more, a trick I know from drag is to wear a lose fitting shirt (or two) underneath whatever you're wearing on top; this will make you look a bit heavier, but will do a lot to conceal your chest from view.  Most people won't think twice if they see just a little bit of a bump; they'll probably assume you've been hitting the dessert table a bit too hard.

The tenderness is a real pain in the ass though, isn't it?  I've found that if I use moisturizer in the area regularly, it helps my cut back on the irritation if I'm not wearing any support. If that still doesn't work, try a little bit of vapor rub; one of my faster developing friends uses the stuff all the time and swears by it.  Best of luck to you!  Hormones are very unpredictable.  If you don't mind the question, what delivery method are you using?  I have to confess that I'm just a bit jealous of your results!



My gender problem isn't half as bad as society's.  Although mine is still pretty bad.
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Shantel

I'll be honest here I don't think there's any rule of thumb cast in concrete when it comes to MtF transitioners. I started in my 50's and was on HRT for several years and had nothing to write home about. At about the 14 year mark I detransitioned for 2 years, don't ask me why, and then went back on HRT I'm now another 5 years down the road and have had remarkable development and it's still an ongoing process. I just turned 70. Here's a couple of selfies I took a year ago. I have an underwire bra on in the top photo and none in the bottom one. I just recently pulled my avatar photo and cropped the exposed boobs out because I was getting comments from visual types and was becoming self conscious about it.

I wouldn't consider binding your breasts, if you need to keep a low profile you can dress around it. Another thing I noticed is that your own boobs seem a lot bigger when you're looking down at them because you're not used to having them there, but they aren't nearly as evident to onlookers when you're wearing a loose shirt. Watch out for cupboard doors ladies.






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Jenny07

Enjoy the challenge of hiding them. Looks like from what you told me I will have the same issue in a few months. :D

You could always get a large cage for them as they mate for life but they are so cute. ;)
So long and thanks for all the fish
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Incarlina

My twins became really tender after a month of HRT, and I could clearly feel that there was something forming behind the nipples. Now after two months I'm up to a B-cup, but I had a fair amount of body fat to begin with. The tenderness and itching is starting to go away somewhat. In the beginning I had trouble sleeping because they were so sensitive, but now I'm really only bothered by the seat belt in my car (who decided that was a good angle across the chest?)
They've been fairly noticeable for a while, even through thick sweaters. And I try everything I can think of to make them more obvious  :laugh:
Diagnosis [X] Hormones [X] Voice therapy [X] Electrolysis [/] FT [X] GRS [ ]
Warning: Any metaphors in the above post may be severely broken.
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Jenna Marie

I did end up having to move up full-time because I couldn't hide boobs anymore - I was a C cup by four months. In the meantime, though, I had some luck with a sports bra; they're intended to be tight and compressing, but not to damage breast tissue. Plus, honestly, at that stage I appreciated the maximum support! Sports bra under one shirt with a loose shirt layered on top worked pretty well for a while.

I also remember complaining that a C cup looked too big back when I was pre-HRT and stuffing a bra... joke was on me, I guess. (I just had to buy new bras, although I'd kind of outgrown the old ones into between sizes rather than a whole cup size bigger; I'm wearing anywhere from 38DDD to 42DDD depending on manufacturer.) At this point, I figure the breast fairy is often unpredictable, just like for cis girls. :)  There are ways to speculate, but who knows where the personal genes came from until you try! My mother's a 34B, for heaven's sake. Anyway, I started at 32 and had good results, too.
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Ms Grace

Thanks, ladies! I should add that I very lightly massage them in the shower every day, and have done so since starting HRT. When I was considering transitioning again I stumbled across a forum talking about massage as a means of promoting growth. Don't know if it's an old wife's tale but I figured it couldn't hurt. Maybe, maybe not, who knows?

Quote from: brionnaclaire on November 02, 2013, 05:38:04 PM
Got to admit I'm a little jelly Grace! I've always wanted my own boobs. I'm really overweight right now so I have a large chest but I know it is not the same. I'm not yet on HRT and I'm not sure yet if I ever will go on it, but I can already relate to your concerns about people noticing the beautiful changes that are bound to happen.
I guess if you ever do decide to start you already have a head start!
Quote from: brionnaclaire on November 02, 2013, 05:38:04 PMBy the way, you look really cute in your avatar pic.
Aw shucks! Thanks!  ;D

Quote from: SammyRose on November 02, 2013, 05:40:07 PM
Still, an A-cup on my fairly feminine frame is very difficult to hide without a tight compression bra, or binding. But I will do neither, both because I'm proud of them, and because I don't want to limit development by squashing them.
Same here! I have a slim frame so I can no longer pass them off as man boobs if wearing tighter clothing.

Quote from: SammyRose on November 02, 2013, 05:40:07 PMAbout two months ago I stopped hiding them while in "boy mode". Most of that decision was because I was so proud of them, that I couldn't bring myself to hide them any more. It was difficult at first, mainly to do with the attention from the public, but I got used to it quickly.
I have to say I am already catching a few people (mostly guys, who obviously have a finely attuned boobdar) giving me odd looks on the train.

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on November 02, 2013, 05:52:36 PM
As someone who dresses pretty frequently in a way that's considered more "masculine", I can tell you from personal experience that how much you show comes down to what you wear.  In a button down, they won't show until you're at least a B (at least on someone who is both tall and fairly broad-chested, which I'm guessing most of us are).  If you're lucky enough to find yourself growing even more, a trick I know from drag is to wear a lose fitting shirt (or two) underneath whatever you're wearing on top;
Yes, I've got some pretty baggy shirts which I don't tuck in - and that has been doing the trick mostly so far. A t-shirt under an unbuttoned shirt also does wonders (picked that trick up from a F2M friend).

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on November 02, 2013, 05:52:36 PM
The tenderness is a real pain in the ass though, isn't it?  I've found that if I use moisturizer in the area regularly, it helps my cut back on the irritation if I'm not wearing any support.
Thanks, I will try that out!

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on November 02, 2013, 05:52:36 PMIf you don't mind the question, what delivery method are you using?  I have to confess that I'm just a bit jealous of your results!
I'm on oral E, but as of this week also have a sub-dermal E capsule implant. The itchiness and sense of "growth" has been fairly more noticeable since then, don't know if it's all in my head though.

Quote from: Shantel on November 02, 2013, 06:04:30 PM
Another thing I noticed is that your own boobs seem a lot bigger when you're looking down at them because you're not used to having them there, but they aren't nearly as evident to onlookers when you're wearing a loose shirt. Watch out for cupboard doors ladies.
Don't they just! Being just an A cup already seems enormous. I have a whole new appreciation for women who sport huge busts, that is a lot of extra lady to carry around.

Quote from: Jenny07 on November 02, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
You could always get a large cage for them as they mate for life but they are so cute. ;)

Priceless!  :icon_mrhappy:

Quote from: Incarlina on November 02, 2013, 06:13:37 PM
In the beginning I had trouble sleeping because they were so sensitive, but now I'm really only bothered by the seat belt in my car (who decided that was a good angle across the chest?)
I know, right? Clearly designed by a guy!

Quote from: Incarlina on November 02, 2013, 06:13:37 PMThey've been fairly noticeable for a while, even through thick sweaters. And I try everything I can think of to make them more obvious  :laugh:
I feel like mine are obvious from a mile away, even though they're not, I'm just a bit self-conscious of them at the moment!

Quote from: Jenna Marie on November 02, 2013, 07:36:33 PM
I also remember complaining that a C cup looked too big back when I was pre-HRT and stuffing a bra... joke was on me, I guess. (I just had to buy new bras, although I'd kind of outgrown the old ones into between sizes rather than a whole cup size bigger; I'm wearing anywhere from 38DDD to 42DDD depending on manufacturer.) At this point, I figure the breast fairy is often unpredictable, just like for cis girls. :)  There are ways to speculate, but who knows where the personal genes came from until you try! My mother's a 34B, for heaven's sake. Anyway, I started at 32 and had good results, too.
Indeed! That Boob Fairy has a mind of her own!

Quote from: Joules on November 02, 2013, 07:48:13 PM
I loooove my girls but at the rate they are going, they are getting to be harder and harder to hide even with heavier Winter clothes.  I may be forced to choose transition a lot sooner than I expected, I'm not giving up my E!

P.S., don't try binding, breasts are damaged by the kind of binding that our FTM brothers do.  I just wear a slightly small sports bra, then a tshirt with a baggy dress shirt.  That combo works well for the time being without threatening the eventual robust shape.
I know what you mean, and we're just starting to head into what's already shaping up to be a very hot summer here. I'll start looking into sports bras, they seem like a good way forward.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Eva Marie

I was on a low dose HRT plan for about 4 years to control dysphoria; the boob fairy did visit but she really didn't leave much behind. Undershirts under loose fitting dress shirts hid everything quite nicely.

About 2 months ago I figured out that i'm a transsexual, so my therapist wrote me a letter for full strength HRT and my endo made a plan for me. My plan is to be on 1/2 of a transitioning dose for a month and jump up to a full strength dose if no problems happen.

I didn't think that much would happen due to my age and my genetics (mom was an A cup at best). Surprise! In that month my boobs have really taken off - they have lost that "tube" look and they have filled out and grown. I'm having to consign more and more shirts to the "do not wear" pile because my chest can be seen with those shirts on now. I'm also now remembering that both of my grandmothers were quite endowed, so maybe that's where they are coming from.

I'm really curious what is going to happen when I go up to full strength HRT in a week  - I'm thinking that this secret is not going to be able to be kept for much longer   :laugh:
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amZo

No such similar experiences............. darnit!   ;)
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Violet Bloom

  Only on Spiro at the moment so absolutely nothing is happening on the boob front.  Once they add the E I should be able to make some progress.  All I've gained so far is an improved state of calm which is at least helping me be a bit patient about the physical changes.  Congrats on your gains.

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generous4

Quote from: Grace_C on November 02, 2013, 05:18:27 PM
...they're going to be a bit hard to conceal while I remain in guy mode.
I went through the same sort of thing in "guy mode".  I did bind for a while at work -- H O R R I B L E -- so I am glad you will not be doing that. 

Just see how it goes, and do not worry.  The sooner you can drop out og guy mode, the better.
All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.    
          - Winston Churchill
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spx_1112

Girls congrats on the breast growth.  It's a wonderful feeling.
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angiegurl

I am currently an A cup but the nipple tenderness and slight itching has just begun as I am only one week in to HRT the right way. I wear a lace cami under my shirts because I am in guy mode when I go out most of the time. Once I take care of the beard that will change. When working at home I am full on girly.  ::) I like the lace cami because it has nice wide straps and you can't tell it is there and it also helps with the nipples. I am anticipating this will become an essential article of clothing. If I can develop to a nice full B or even C I would be ecstatic. My mom was a D so I remain hopeful.  ;D
Angie



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KabitTarah

Quote from: Joules on November 02, 2013, 07:48:13 PM
Getting a late start at 60, I wasn't sure what to expect.  I'm overweight and had some fair sized moobs, almost a B cup worth, although moobs have that flat, wrap-around look.  Since I'm only experimental with transitioning right now, my game plan was to do HRT over the winter and hide any developments I might get.

I started in early June and had sore breasts from day 1.  I was starting to have trouble hiding the girls before the warm weather was gone.  Right now (@ 4 months), I'm a bit shy of a better shaped B cup, as measured by an underwire size 46 B bra I have.  Going by measurements, I think I calculate to be a DDD or DDDD (band size 46, bust size 51), but that measurement technique isn't appropriate for us IMHO.  I think I still have a lot of moob stuff left bumping up the bust size, I hope it will either go away or make the switch to girl shape someday.

I loooove my girls but at the rate they are going, they are getting to be harder and harder to hide even with heavier Winter clothes.  I may be forced to choose transition a lot sooner than I expected, I'm not giving up my E!

P.S., don't try binding, breasts are damaged by the kind of binding that our FTM brothers do.  I just wear a slightly small sports bra, then a tshirt with a baggy dress shirt.  That combo works well for the time being without threatening the eventual robust shape.

Quote from: Jenna Marie on November 02, 2013, 07:36:33 PM
I did end up having to move up full-time because I couldn't hide boobs anymore - I was a C cup by four months. In the meantime, though, I had some luck with a sports bra; they're intended to be tight and compressing, but not to damage breast tissue. Plus, honestly, at that stage I appreciated the maximum support! Sports bra under one shirt with a loose shirt layered on top worked pretty well for a while.

I also remember complaining that a C cup looked too big back when I was pre-HRT and stuffing a bra... joke was on me, I guess. (I just had to buy new bras, although I'd kind of outgrown the old ones into between sizes rather than a whole cup size bigger; I'm wearing anywhere from 38DDD to 42DDD depending on manufacturer.) At this point, I figure the breast fairy is often unpredictable, just like for cis girls. :)  There are ways to speculate, but who knows where the personal genes came from until you try! My mother's a 34B, for heaven's sake. Anyway, I started at 32 and had good results, too.

Daaamn... 4 months for both of you, and already hard or impossible to stay in boy mode? That's awesome - and yes, frightening!

Joules, it looks like my HRT plan is the same as yours - a year later. I'll be starting E in May/June to hopefully ride out the summer and make it to sweater weather before the girls come in too noticably.

Jenna... I'm starting 3 years older than you, have a bit of gynecomastia, and my family is all big (at least on the side I take after for everything else). I'm not saying I'll be following your path, but the possibility and sort-of-fear is there!

This thread is making it REALLY hard for me to wait 7-8 more months ;) I'm excited for all of you..... and in anticipation! ♥♥♥
~ Tarah ~

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generous4

Quote from: Grace_C on November 02, 2013, 05:18:27 PMMy sister is kinda huge (G?) but has had three kids too
My mom was quite large, same with my sister... not sure what bra sizes for them, though.  Gotta be careful just throwing around cup size.  42DD carries more volume than 32G, so...
All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.    
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Ms Grace

Yeah, I have to say I'm an utter newb at bra sizing! Guess I'm about to get a crash course :laugh:

Yesterday marked a week with a sub dermal pellet, and dang my nips were sore! Think I can feel another growth spurt on the way!

Did yoga yesterday (we have a small class in the workplace once a week with a qualified instructor) and apart from feeling like my girls were super obvious even under my baggy tee we had one posture that involved lying on our front, for the first time it felt like having a small pillow under my chest.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Jenna Marie

Kabit : Good luck, and I hope you get exactly the results you want - with the timing as close to ideal as possible. ;) I also had some gynecomastia, and I do wonder if that's a sign that a body is really going to work well with E...
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KabitTarah

Quote from: Jenna Marie on November 05, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
Kabit : Good luck, and I hope you get exactly the results you want - with the timing as close to ideal as possible. ;) I also had some gynecomastia, and I do wonder if that's a sign that a body is really going to work well with E...

Thanks! Mine is on one side only (very noticeable by feel).
I've often felt, lately, that I was built for E not T... body and spirit. :D We'll see how it goes - I've got a long path ahead.
~ Tarah ~

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