I'm glad things seem to be doing better... I still feel guilty to this day about what I did to my wife, but she also reminds me every time I mention it that she CHOSE to stay and pretending I was able to torture her without her consent takes away the value of that choice. If that makes sense. Your wife loves you, and you'll have to trust that as much as she (as both of you) suffers, she knows what she's doing too.

It does get better. So long as both of you are willing to try, there's hope.

Quote from: Jenna Marie on October 30, 2013, 07:47:01 AM
I'm glad things seem to be doing better... I still feel guilty to this day about what I did to my wife, but she also reminds me every time I mention it that she CHOSE to stay and pretending I was able to torture her without her consent takes away the value of that choice. If that makes sense. Your wife loves you, and you'll have to trust that as much as she (as both of you) suffers, she knows what she's doing too.

It does get better. So long as both of you are willing to try, there's hope.

I'd like to second that!

I discovered an interesting way of looking at this today...

Imagine that your diagnosed with cancer. They need to put you on chemo and all that not so fun stuff. Turns out the cancer has spread to your jaw and testicles and they need to remove them. So you'll be loosing all your hair, your jaw and your testicles. Your partner probably won't find you attractive anymore. Are they going to leave you, blame you and shame you for getting cancer? How would a loving compassionate person handle this? Would they stand by your side? Would they support you through the tough part and then leave to find an attractive partner? How would they treat you if they truly loved you? Something to think about....

Quote from: Genzen on November 06, 2013, 10:25:40 AM
I discovered an interesting way of looking at this today...

Imagine that your diagnosed with cancer. They need to put you on chemo and all that not so fun stuff. Turns out the cancer has spread to your jaw and testicles and they need to remove them. So you'll be loosing all your hair, your jaw and your testicles. Your partner probably won't find you attractive anymore. Are they going to leave you, blame you and shame you for getting cancer? How would a loving compassionate person handle this? Would they stand by your side? Would they support you through the tough part and then leave to find an attractive partner? How would they treat you if they truly loved you? Something to think about....

Yes... I've used this. It makes cis people mad... at least from my experience - those who are closest to us.

Our condition is similar to Parkinson's. Either you have it or you don't. There's huge social stigma. It's not a direct genetic disorder. I've used that... you wouldn't divorce someone who just found out they have Parkinson's disease. Sexually... it's also similar to paraplegism. You've lost function of your genitals - they provide no pleasure (for us that's different... but for the cis hetero person it's the same).

The fact is... they don't want to hear these arguments because they don't see you as the person they married anymore... and they don't want anything to change that because they might start loving you again. They don't want to love you (romantically but platonically) because that would make them gay. The social stigma is overwhelming for anyone not prepared for it... that is the only difference between being transgender and having some other medical condition.

At least Parkinson's and Cancer patients get their treatment covered by health insurance.

Quote from: Genzen on November 07, 2013, 09:09:32 AM
At least Parkinson's and Cancer patients get their treatment covered by health insurance.

After the first $5000 a year and co pays.