Quote from: None of the Above on July 21, 2007, 05:54:47 PM
By 'self', I think we refer to two different things. I don't mean the details of a physical self, which is just a shell that has no real reality, is just a lot of *stuff*. I mean that part of the whole that will transcend this shell, some call it spirit. [I usually frame this type of thing in terms of 'MIGHT transcend the shell' for purposes of argument, but this is experiential, so I'm going for WILL.]

he so-called near death experience, Buddhists call it one of the intermediate states between life and death, "bardo of the experiencing of reality".

Let's consider the flash/instant frame of time for purpose of discussion. EVERY MOMENT you experience exists between two moments, after a certain convention. We can actually draw the inference that each moment in consciousness is *like* the intermediate or near-death experience, in that it exists SO WE CAN EXPERIENCE REALITY. Only, we experience very little, because we, in order to cope with all this *stuff*, which is confusing to us, tend to not be able to get out of our own way.

You know how all colors are present (I don't mean in pigment, but in light spectra) in the 'color' white?
Well that's a lot of information in one place, isn't it? Now this is why this experience tends to be beyond description.

It happened to me exactly one time, I don't actually know how much time I was 'in light', but it was long enough for the other people in the house to see it emanating from the crack under the door of the darkened bathroom where I was. I felt that I had no body; I don't mean that I floated above my body, I mean that it was not there. I'm sure it was, but the *self* - that particularization of, for lack of a more convenient word, God - had momentarily transmigrated. Had phoned home, as it were.

Which is about all I can say confidently.

Nota

i don't exactly agree with what you're saying here. but this is a really great post, somehow. thanks.

Quote from: Ell on July 21, 2007, 06:39:41 PM
i don't exactly agree with what you're saying here. but this is a really great post, somehow. thanks.

You have been blinded by her light 

Quote from: Rebis on July 21, 2007, 06:40:52 PM

Quote from: Ell on July 21, 2007, 06:39:41 PM
i don't exactly agree with what you're saying here. but this is a really great post, somehow. thanks.

You have been blinded by her light 

thanks, Manfred. and it just had to be from under a bathroom door.

Quote from: Ell on July 21, 2007, 07:01:42 PM

Quote from: Rebis on July 21, 2007, 06:40:52 PM

Quote from: Ell on July 21, 2007, 06:39:41 PM
i don't exactly agree with what you're saying here. but this is a really great post, somehow. thanks.

You have been blinded by her light 

thanks, Manfred. and it just had to be from under a bathroom door.

That's the brutality of it all.

I have the urge to refer to myself as Manfred now

Good example of a non-sequitur, IE: that doesn't follow.

Either way, leave me.   

I'm taking the milk and the water.

n-ot-a >swan

I may be totally wrong but I'm a

Dancin Fool

Posted on: July 22, 2007, 02:45:25 PM

---

I think if it's a swan, an *actual* swan, it might be more-or-less similar to you or I (ostensibly humans), in that it is largely made up OF water.