Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 06:40:32 PM
EEp!!! Wages better be real good. I am suffering paying $440 for rent & house payment combined. Electric is about $85/mo and heat about $45/mo.

Well, you would have a roommate.

Well...minimum wage here is about $9.50ish, so after say 20% withholding...that's about....hmm...carry the 3...

Twelve dollars.

Hmm...that's not right.

9.50 is almost 10, 20% off that is 8, x 40hrs/week = 320 x4weeks = 1280.

Thin, but doable. Fortunately, most non-degreed jobs pay more like 12-18/hour, so you'd be looking at 1800-2200/month.

There are jobs that pay 20-30/hour. Median wage per capita here is about $40k/year.

now take $300 off for insurance and I can't buy food or gas and I earn more than 9.5 an hour. It still don't work.

Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 07:00:17 PM
now take $300 off for insurance and I can't buy food or gas and I earn more than 9.5 an hour. It still don't work.

I guess I'm just chopped liver. Which is something you'd think a KAT would pay attention to.

Quote from: Amelia Pond on November 09, 2013, 07:06:04 PM
I guess I'm just chopped liver. Which is something you'd think a KAT would pay attention to.

Umm,..vegetarian KAT.  How would that add up to chopped liver? I was just explaining how it isn't even enough for my low rent in comparison. Make it closer to 13 or 15 on hour and I would have a shot. With a roomie, a better shot.

Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 07:12:03 PM
Umm,..vegetarian KAT.  How would that add up to chopped liver? I was just explaining how it isn't even enough for my low rent in comparison. Make it closer to 13 or 15 on hour and I would have a shot. With a roomie, a better shot.

Or a third roomie. I like my place, but wouldn't mind moving to a better one...if friends are involved.

And Amy...isn't the term for "chopped liver" actually pâté? Gotta raise standards a little bit... 

Ooh! And a vegetarian KAT! I'll try vegetarian fare, always wanted to.

Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 07:12:03 PM
Umm,..vegetarian KAT.  How would that add up to chopped liver? I was just explaining how it isn't even enough for my low rent in comparison. Make it closer to 13 or 15 on hour and I would have a shot. With a roomie, a better shot.

Damn, I forgot that you're a vegetarian. I think being roomies would make it work fairly easily. Besides, now Beth is offering to be a roommate, three people paying for everything would make it cake. The cake IS NOT a lie... this time. 

Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 09, 2013, 07:15:56 PM
And Amy...isn't the term for "chopped liver" actually pâté? Gotta raise standards a little bit... 

Well that's not the expression so

Rental houses, 3br for about 1400...

Don't know what kind of insurance is 300 (don't have to answer), but we do have reasonable state medical, and many companies offer it as well.

Portal reference FTW!



eta, must go now. KAT has my number if ya'all want to text.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on November 09, 2013, 07:20:33 PM
Rental houses, 3br for about 1400...

Don't know what kind of insurance is 300 (don't have to answer), but we do have reasonable state medical, and many companies offer it as well.

OMG! The housing prices on the west coast are obscene! What makes it worth it?? Does marijuana grow wild in the ditches or something?

I have some advice when you're feeling a little down. Watch Judge Judy.... you'll feel like a precious metal listening to these morons! Here's an example: "Mark is suing Janice, the mother of his fifth child Damien. He claims Janice snuck in his apartment and had an orgy with four strangers and perhaps one space alien. Janice is counter suing for damages to her car when she ran over Mark when he tried to block her car as she tried to get her space alien friend back to the mother ship."  It's all downhill from there....

Trust me, you'll feel better.

Housing costs here are about 1/2 that. You would have to have roommates just to eat.

That is my premium for medical, dental from work plus my car insurance.

I paid a whole 75k to buy a 7 bedroom house about 10 years back. Long story,  but I lost it.

I'm actually feeling pretty good...2 beers and 2 pieces of 5-meat stuffed pizza definitely a mood changer....

Quote from: Nikko on November 09, 2013, 08:20:09 PM
OMG! The housing prices on the west coast are obscene! What makes it worth it?? Does marijuana grow wild in the ditches or something?

I have some advice when you're feeling a little down. Watch Judge Judy.... you'll feel like a precious metal listening to these morons! Here's an example: "Mark is suing Janice, the mother of his fifth child Damien. He claims Janice snuck in his apartment and had an orgy with four strangers and perhaps one space alien. Janice is counter suing for damages to her car when she ran over Mark when he tried to block her car as she tried to get her space alien friend back to the mother ship."  It's all downhill from there....

Trust me, you'll feel better.

Low crime (where I live), Seattle is 20 miles away (avg home price = 350K, up here about $250K)...that's to buy, renting is about what you've seen.

Most businesses around here, if they offer insurance, pay for the employee. $300/month is if you're getting ins for family.

In the end, you have to decide if you want to relocate, not just for financial reasons.

Imho

Very true. I want to go there for the weather partly, partly because of just dreaming, and partly for a fresh start sort of. That doesn't mean I can't be shocked by the difference in costs. I have found that usually wages match costs making it come out about even overall. I only need insurance for me, so it would depend what was offered.

The weather locally is pretty mild, 25-45 in the winter with one or two light snowfalls (2"-4", gone in 3 days)...summer 50--80F, not too humid, short mosquito season.

Oregon and WA both have a "wet side" and a "dry side." the western/ocean side is wet in both states, and east of the mountains (Cascades) is much dryer, colder in winter and hotter in summer. Wages are generally lower, but so is rent and housing (but not by much, Spokane avg house is $200K).

I guess I was wanting the wet side. At least when I was checking out places I would like, I came up with Yakima as a possibility.

Yakima is dry, and hot. There's an Army base there, and I wouldn't think it's too trans-friendly (although I do not know.) I've just driven thru and thought about going back there just to check out the surplus stores...

Hmm, didn't look at it from a trans point of view. I may have to redo some of my searching as it was a few years back.

Quote from: LordKAT on November 09, 2013, 11:13:37 PM
Hmm, didn't look at it from a trans point of view. I may have to redo some of my searching as it was a few years back.

Yakima has a very large Mexican population (i.e., lots of people, not that there are Large Mexicans, I'm sure most of them are HWP...)...from which we *might* surmise they are Catholic and/or conservative.

But again, I don't know.

(I am looking for the site that shows "average daily temps" for the Seattle area, Yakima, and Wisconsin...will post when I find it)

Cool.
I saw a house made entirely made by carving out a redwood log once. I thought it looked like one cool house. I've wanted to see a live redwood ever since. that is what first lead me to Oregon, the milder weather was just a huge plus. then I discovered all the unusual animals in Australia. I decided then I had to go there and dive around the great Barrier Reef. I just have a need to wander and see everything.

If money were no object, I 'd have visited most of the world by now. And had a college degree, perpetual student style.