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Started by Lauren5, November 15, 2013, 08:51:41 PM

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Lauren5

So this story starts out all nice, I'm sitting in the waiting room, and a nurse comes out and asks for Willow. I look around. It's only me sitting (or rather I laying, feeling the effects of the large dose of clonazepam I had taken that morning to calm my nerves) in the room. I was overjoyed; the medical staff knows my name, and uses it too! So I get in with the doctor and am given a lot of paperwork, and also reassured that bloodwork isn't required to start hormones; it'll be done a week after. But I am told that I need a letter from a mental health professional. I asked about the diagnosis: it isn't enough I'm told. But she would see me as soon as she received a letter. So I go to psychiatry, to see the doctor who helped me most with gender concerns. She's not here, and won't be until my next appointment with her, on the 27th. The on to the counselling centre, to see if the doctor I worked with there can write a letter, with assistance of the transgender specialist (who I cannot get into at school or her private practice, and doesn't accept my insurance off campus anyways,) but refuses to, saying I should talk with my family first, for insurance reasons (which I'll mention later), and that she is not right to make a decision on this because she is not very knowledgeable about my gender issues.. I thought that she had to be kidding me; she was the first person I came out to on campus. So I have to see one of the gender specialists from off campus, doubting they'll take my insurance either, and haven't replied to my calls (where's the secretary? Shouldn't they be able to answer a call?) And what if they want 6 + sessions before writing me a letter? I can't wait any longer, I already broke down Tuesday, it's been a little better, but I can't keep myself together for much longer.

As for insurance, the doctor said she had indeed disguised insurance in the past (eg. labelling HRT as "hormonal imbalance") but with the growing number of insurance companies accepting HRT under insurance, she's stopped doing so, and won't make an exception for me, who may loose insurance coverage due to this. I can't afford out of pocket (only $50-60 a month, the doctor says, for the generics. I have $53) prescriptions or therapy. I can barely afford food over thanksgiving break, when the dining halls are closed from Wednesday afternoon to Sunday night, the only reprieve being a turkey dinner on Thursday. Fortunately I can stock up on combo exchange. I asked my dad for more money, first he didn't believe that the dining halls would close, but when I showed him the email I got stating so, he said "You should have spend your money better." He'd rather me starve than loose $50? I don't have the money to balance between food, transgender related things that make me happy, and other things that make me happy. It looks like I'm going to have to find a loan, because dad says "I don't want you working, I want you studying!" even though I do so for 20+ hours a week.

Now I sit hungry, not wanting to eat, tired, even though I cried myself to sleep over 6 hours ago, and just feeling dead inside, like there's no continuation. I was so close, but the gap just expanded tenfold.
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Full time: 12/12/13
Started hormones: 26/3/14
FFS: No clue, winter/spring 2014/15 maybe?
SRS: winter/spring 2014/15?
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Jessica Merriman

Wish I was there to give you a big hug little sister. Life sure is crazy for us, isn't it? Hope things get much better for your.
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Emily.T

I hope things get better soon hun

Emily.T xx
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JillSter

I'm sorry Willow. :(

They sound like they're all watching their own butts, which is understandable, but they shouldn't forget that yours is the one on the line here!

Hang in there and it'll happen soon. And when you have the pills in your hand (or whatever method you're using) it will have been worth the wait! :)

*HUGS*
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Ms Grace

How disheartening...  :-\
Is it case of hanging in there until that doctor comes back on the 27th or is all that insurance stuff an additional complication?
Sounds like you're close though, hope it gets resolved really quickly and then...!  :)
HUG!
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Lauren5

Thanks Jessica, Emily, Jillian, and Grace.
To respond to each individually:
Thanks Jessica for what you can give. I'm in a touch spot,  with little,  although grown by,  RL support, but it's not from the right area always.
Jillian: What happened to rhe patient comes first? I'd I lose insurance,  they will Gabe not just likely lose money, but lose a life as well. If I can't transition,  I don't know what I'd do
Soon is relative.  I could email the doctor and be in on monday comjngbout of the pharmacy with sweet estradiol and spiro, or I may have to wait for a dedicated therapist to visit me 6 or so times to get confidence that I am definitely a transwoman, something I have known all along,  and by then it's January.
Grace: moat everything is covered in above replies. Fortunately my insurance covers psychaiatry at the school clinic without question. Is when I'm sent off campus that is a problem.
On campus I still have the problem with insurance,  not worrying about the prescription,  because the pharmacy covers the same drugs (usually for other uses though) without question, as long as there's a perscription. What I'm worried about is if they look at my record and decide to drop me as a "moral degenerate" and now all my healthcare is put into doubt.
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Started hormones: 26/3/14
FFS: No clue, winter/spring 2014/15 maybe?
SRS: winter/spring 2014/15?
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JLT1

Willow,

When I was told that I would get the prescription for HRT, it ended up taking two more months before it actually happened. Sometimes, I think there is a test or something in there.  Hang in there.  Plan, as best you can for the worst but think and dream for the best. Please, you can hang on for that long.

Hugs,

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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maximusloverus

I know what you mean about being on a tight budget. I'm barely scraping by myself and I have no insurance so every doctor visit come straight out of pocket. Just hang in there cuz the struggle will make your success feel that much sweeter. Rememeber you always will have love and support from us on those though days. Sending my love.
Oh how wrong we were to think that immortality meant never dying
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Lauren5

Quote from: JLT1 on November 16, 2013, 02:06:57 AMWillow,
When I was told that I would get the prescription for HRT, it ended up taking two more months before it actually happened. Sometimes, I think there is a test or something in there.  Hang in there.  Plan, as best you can for the worst but think and dream for the best. Please, you can hang on for that long.
Hugs,
Jen
I'm trying my best.  I Just think 2 mmonthsmay be too long to handle. I'll try to hang on for ad long as I can workout spontaneously combusting.
Quote from: Shnoogy on November 16, 2013, 02:26:01 AMI know what you mean about being on a tight budget. I'm barely scraping by myself and I have no insurance so every doctor visit come straight out of pocket. Just hang in there cuz the struggle will make your success feel that much sweeter. Rememeber you always will have love and support from us on those though days. Sending my love.
Sometimes I just want an embrace from someone I love. And that makes it all better.
Quote from: Sarah7 on November 16, 2013, 05:23:13 AMI'm so sorry, Willow. It's horrible to get so close and then have to wait and wait. Have you talked to anyone about your financial situation? I know that both of the gender therapists I went to will reduce or waive their fees for people with low or no income.
The issue with my financial situation is familial. I have an income,  money to go to tuition. Other than that,  I get nothing from my parents. Being a student is different from being unemployed. I'm sure some therapists would be OK with it and try to see what they could do, but others wouldn't. I'm waiting on calls back from two others,  hopefully they can get to me quickly.
Hey, you've reached Lauren's signature! If you have any questions, want to talk, or just need a shoulder to cry on, leave me a message, and I'll get back to you.
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Full time: 12/12/13
Started hormones: 26/3/14
FFS: No clue, winter/spring 2014/15 maybe?
SRS: winter/spring 2014/15?
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JillSter

I know two months can feel like forever. You're in pain and it only makes the days seem longer. But look at it this way: just two months, and then for the rest of your life your prayers will be answered. If you're like me, the only thing you've ever wished for is to be female. Just hold out a little longer and your dreams will come true.

Or maybe you only have to wait until Monday. I hope that's the case. :)

You're so close! Too close to let yourself get discouraged. Work on your voice, practice your makeup, paint your toenails, make yourself feel pretty. I promise you'll look back on today and thank yourself for being patient. Just imagine, you'll finally get to be the woman you always knew you were! Take comfort in that. It may seem so far away right now, but it's really just around the corner. You're almost there.

But for today, give someone a big hug. Squeeze them tight. It helps.
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LordKAT

Willow has friends!



2 months is small in comparison to your life span. Meanwhile, you have all the people on here and one big KAT.
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Lauren5

You've got it right on, Jillian. Even though today has been pretty good, I'm amazed to see it still alive. Days spread into weeks, months eternities, it seems.
Unfortunately, it's not my only desire, just my #1 desire. The rest I had to abandon for some reason or another.

I really do hope Monday everything is all good. Tomorrow, I'm sending an (highly apologetic, as she is on vacation) email to my psychiatrist, asking if she'll write the letter. She may not get back to me until she gets back from vacation, whcih is better than seeing a dedicated therapist and waiting potentially 2-3 months.

I went shopping for a new outfit and was able to get most of it, and wore what I could. I plan on some voice prctice lessons later tonight, and maybe some makeup practice too. All while dressed. I had to undress to use the bathroom though, boo.

I wish I could, but unfortunately my best friend isn't in the giving hugs mood, we both need to receive them, but can't give them to eachother.

Kat, I don't think I live quite as long as my sisters of the forest, unlike Amy seems to suggest :P
Hey, you've reached Lauren's signature! If you have any questions, want to talk, or just need a shoulder to cry on, leave me a message, and I'll get back to you.
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Full time: 12/12/13
Started hormones: 26/3/14
FFS: No clue, winter/spring 2014/15 maybe?
SRS: winter/spring 2014/15?
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Lauren5

Fortunately, I got a boost today, from selling something I didn't really use anyways. Some of it, about $65 of it has gone or will go towards my first real outfit. The rest I can eat off of and get my family some cheap gifts that I hope they'll still appreciate.

My dad once again seemed like he was going to offer me money for thanksgiving, but this is what was said in text:
Dad: So that means you need/want $$ for food?
Me: Indeed, t'would be nice.
Dad: HA!

I'm not sure if it means that I'm gullible and really thought he was going to give me food money, or he found the statement amusing. The latter though usually would use a lowercase a though.
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Started hormones: 26/3/14
FFS: No clue, winter/spring 2014/15 maybe?
SRS: winter/spring 2014/15?
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Lauren5

Another update: my email to my docror through the clinic's system was forwarded to her, but the nurse reviewing it is referring me back to the counselling centre (where I couldn't get a letter) for it. Ugh! I thought I said I had been there, tried that.
Now I've lost my appetite.
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Started hormones: 26/3/14
FFS: No clue, winter/spring 2014/15 maybe?
SRS: winter/spring 2014/15?
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Shantel

Willow,
      But isn't it nice to have all these wonderful friends to cheer for you and perk you up? And a real perky little chickster living right there in your dorm to get you pumped on life? Hugs from Auntie Shan!
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JLT1

Quote from: Willow on November 18, 2013, 09:54:32 AM
Another update: my email to my docror through the clinic's system was forwarded to her, but the nurse reviewing it is referring me back to the counselling centre (where I couldn't get a letter) for it. Ugh! I thought I said I had been there, tried that.
Now I've lost my appetite.

Willow,


I am so sorry.  Perhaps you might point out that you already had been to the counseling center and you could not get the letter from them.  Much of the time, people "reading" those emails just skim them without reading all the content.  Sometimes, it's just a call to the nurse rather than an email.  Voice to voice has worked better for me when I have been in similar situations. 

If you have to wait, let us know what we can do to help.  We are here for you.

Hugs,

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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Lauren5

Quote from: Shantel on November 18, 2013, 11:23:09 AMWillow,
      But isn't it nice to have all these wonderful friends to cheer for you and perk you up? And a real perky little chickster living right there in your dorm to get you pumped on life? Hugs from Auntie Shan!
I wish Susan's was a killer club at the centre of the earth (not literally), so we could all get there and party.
She's always so busy though D:
Quote from: JLT1 on November 18, 2013, 12:40:17 PMWillow,

I am so sorry.  Perhaps you might point out that you already had been to the counseling center and you could not get the letter from them.  Much of the time, people "reading" those emails just skim them without reading all the content.  Sometimes, it's just a call to the nurse rather than an email.  Voice to voice has worked better for me when I have been in similar situations. 

If you have to wait, let us know what we can do to help.  We are here for you.

Hugs,

Jen
I'll see if I can just go in to the clinic and ask there. They want me to see the social worker that I've seen twice or thrice (I decided it would be appropriate to be out to her as her degree is in women and gender studies, and she's super duper accepting) and although I doubt she can write a letter for me, I think she can help me get in the right direction.
I don't have time until Friday this week anyways for an appointment with the GP/endo; I'm super busy with TDoR stuff this week.
Considering making a female facebook too, I think that'll be a fun way to pass some time. You all will be invited, of course :)
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Full time: 12/12/13
Started hormones: 26/3/14
FFS: No clue, winter/spring 2014/15 maybe?
SRS: winter/spring 2014/15?
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