Well, yeah that makes sense heh. If you whack a vein you aren't watching what you're doing, for sure. Well, I know that steriods being used in sports is cheating but I meant a large majority of people who use them aren't using them for a sport. Sport competitions test for them and eliminate you right off the bat, so if you're actually serious about a competition, you aren't on them. That was my point. But I get ya now, sorry if I sounded grumpy haha, my family just gives me so much flack for taking roids that it's a trigger response @.@' I am working with 2 kinds of otc steriods at the moment and you're totally right about medical supervision. I can't afford it right now or I would go that route definitely. Right now I am relying completely on knowledge of my own body to take a wild stab at what my levels are. Being I'm a triple Virgo it works out but I would never suggest it to someone else who didn't have experience with it or such a tight knit physical regulation system (I know instantly what's up because I am very vulnerable to emotional, mental, and physical changes with my body).