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Started by ganjina, November 29, 2013, 06:07:56 AM

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ganjina

Hey there,

I would like to hear experiences about what to do when being molested by some leecher or something, I think it is  of paramount importance for personal safety to be alert and have some backup plans and so on and so forth. So what have you girls done in this kind of situation or even to avoid this type of situation altogether. Here are my experiences for what they are worth for:

When I was about 16, I was very androgynous and passed as girl. Once in a subway later at night, some random dude about 40 YO came in, the wagon was nearly empty, looked around and came like 2ft away from me, directly in front of my face, and began masturbating wildly. I was lucky because 1) He was not armed, 2) There was some other "normal" person on the wagon who came in to help, and just kind of pushed the guy away. What would you do in this kind of situation? What if he was armed and there was noone in there? I decided to just carry a pepper spray and keep on watching out, as usual, what else to do?

Another one was at an airport  I had to stay overnight due to some connecting, long flights and me not having anywhere to stay. In the middle of the night some guy popped out of nowhere, sat down just next to me, and kidn of grabbed my waist and leg with one arm and the other then was like "hey how are you?" as if it was something casual to do. I just pushed him away and said something like do stay away in a loud tone, that I thought someone nearby in the terminal would hear. He stayed there in the seat and I left. What would you have done?

Kind of icky situations you do not want to mess around. I think the same question could apply about being clocked. Any thoughts?

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Jessica Merriman

Sounds like you have done well so far, but night time is really dangerous wherever you are. Try to do most things in the day time and if you can't have a friend accompany you. There is safety in numbers and most (not all) will avoid multiple person groups. If you can't avoid travel or errands at night and alone take some basic self defense classes. I study Aikido which relies on pain compliance which does not demand a great deal of physical strength. It was taught in my police academy and it works so well we had cadets around 5'6" and 120 lbs put down cadets at around 6' and 200 lbs. It works really well. Just food for thought though. You are smart for considering your personal safety and it shows a good level of maturity. Good job!  ;)
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Sammy

When I was 16 or 17 (always looked a bit younger and  kinda like  "a pretty boy"), some random gay guy (around his 40-ties) groped me in public bus. That a**ole was definitely a pro, because initially I did not notice what was going on - and that bus was crowded by the way... Jerk had some sort of large file pad and was covering his actions and being so discreet that when I finally figured out what he was up to (cause he started to breath in very ugly manner), so I kinda froze. I pretty much hated all gays for a long time, but that is another story. If that would happened now, I pretty much would either push him away or make him suffer - like stepping on his toes and making sure I stay there. Being in a publicē bus is kinda double-edged stick...
Now, lets say I was alone somewhere... This is tricky. I do carry pepper spray quite often and been over decade in martial arts, but since the HRT kicked into its full effect, both agression and self-confidence have taken some ,,damage". Pre-HRT I was quite confident in handling two medium-trained attackers – or three medium built guys from the street (unarmed of course), but now doing that would require some extra feats. Martial arts do provide some mental conditioning and confidence boost. Also, Estrogen cools down Your brain a bit and it is kinda good when You dont get into that ballistic mode, which testosterone + adrenaline sends You in as soon as there is some serious danger. Sure, it also gives that strenght multiplier plus ,,bullet-time" (You know, everything just freezes down a bit), but sometimes it all ends in way too much recklessness and aggression...
But for that clear and cool head to work in getting You out of trouble, You will need some basic training. What always work, despite lack of physical strenght, is pressure points and causing lots of pain with minimum efforts. That means – learn to fight dirty and dont be ashamed of that. I never was, and if there were many attackers, I was sure to punch at least one of them in his balls as hard as I could (thats guaranteed minus one dude)  and then trying to get away in the cleared spot until others have realised what is going on.
The good thing (if there is anything good about aggression) is that violence against a man starts with a punch, but violence against a woman starts with a grab or hold – You probably noticed that already. So if You are grabbed - start by being aloud and visible to others – in many cases people might assume that he is Your boyfriend and You two are just having a hard time – and will not interfere. Make it clear that You are not with him and are actually a woman in distress. If You need to push away someone who is stronger or heavier than You – then pain is Your asset. Bite his lip or cheek or ear as hard as You can, if he forces You into something – grab and squeeze (and he will go down), or even punch him there. Dont start doing fancy things, because most of them wont work if You have not practiced them, besides if he is too excited he might be full with adrenaline and wont register the pain. Slapping is quite useless, because he might get angry... Actually, backhanding across his face can have devastating effect, but You need to practice that, because You actually aim for his eyes and tip of nose and You hit him with the tip of  fingers, not Your hand (the pain is terrible, btw)...
Poking in the eye does wonders too. If You are not grabbed, then maintain the distance by backing away and sideways, and making Yourself being heard.
It is kinda tough game, and the best way to avoid it is by being alert and aware of Your surroundings and sticking to the crowd, because when You are alone You would have to rely on Your own assets – and You gotta make sure they are good (and they will be always worse than his... sorry) and rely on surprise and shock element.
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ganjina

Thanks for the practical, helpful advice ^^. Some thorough tips there. I definitely agree with the fightning dirty part, like who could even care at this point and who would blame you for that if you are being molested? I did some martial arts too but have never tried punching there, it is a bit low IMO, the thing that comes naturally to mind is a knee-hit. Best thing to do anyway is to watch out and stay out of riskier, lonelier moments and places.
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Alainaluvsu

The best thing you can do is cause a scene. Perverts can only work if they're discreet. If somebody grabs you, yell "I DO NOT KNOW YOU GET OFF OF ME!" as loud as you can. Repeat yourself until they let you go. Trust me, they WILL let you go if you're in public (and if you're as loud as me you may make his ears ring enough to leave you alone in private). If you'd like to learn some self defense moves, there are some quickies you can learn on youtube like how to break someones thumb if they grab you and you have your hands available.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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big kim

I was molested twice,the first time a hand went down my top in a bar.I punched the guy on the temple,he went down like a sniper shot him.The second time I gripped the guys windpipe between my thumb and fingers,squeezed and gave him a good shake at the same time while holding him at arms length.
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Ashey

When I was 17 I was walking home alone one night and some crackhead nearly raped me. I didn't know if he had a weapon or not but I managed to get away from him without getting hurt and I ran home. He was on a bike a chased me all the way there. I got to my front door and he's saying stuff to me, trying to calm me and reassure me. I just glared at him and went inside. After that it took me a couple weeks before I got the nerve to go out again. :\ I'm gonna buy a pistol next year. -_-
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Oriah

I had a guy grab my chest on a sidewalk in California about two years ago.  I had studied a little martial arts for self defense so I started swinging.     We got into it pretty good, he tried to beat me with a coconut sized chunk of concrete he picked up, but I wrested it out of his hands.  The tussle lasted about four minutes till the cops showed up and he took off running.  By that time I had shoved my thumb into his eyesocket and it was bleeding pretty heavy, and he had broken one of my ribs. 

He got away, and I brushed off and walked home.  I never filled out a police report or anything, and I healed fine on my own.  It was pretty scary, but I was glad that I stood up to him.  I got hurt, but I also held my own against a guy twice my size.  I haven't had any problems since, but that incident helped me to feel more confident.
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Michelle G

I hate to talk about about it as it brings up too many bad memories...but 12 and by a friends older brother when I spent the night at her house so we could work on a homework project. Pretty much all my friends then were female.
Just a "California Girl" trying to enjoy each sunny day
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kathyk

Keep pepper spray in hand when walking into an uncomfortable situation, and be ready to use it.  But most important, yell FIRE as loud as you possibly can if things get bad.  A few people will always come running to see what's burning, or to help put the fire out.  I've been told it rarely fails to draw attention.





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evecrook

I remember I was in girl mode many years ago taking the train. The train was very crowded . This man was standing next to me .He kept looking at me pulling his coat zipper up and down constantly.  I don't know if it really meant anything. but it was sure annoying.
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