I read where most trans women relate better to women than men. 

For what is worth, I do relate to men better than women!  I know this goes against the grain of what most here have expressed.  I have never felt totally comfortable in a group of women only.  I don't connect with the chit chat.  Actually, I get bored.

Even though I get along famously with just about every one I meet, I find that I personally am happier when I'm with a group of mostly men than I do with a group of mostly women. 

Is that weird or what?  I don't fit the mold..... oh no... what am I gonna do? 

From my life's experience, I find this not uncommon. For example, I recall a time when I managed a group that had some very driven and self directed women in it.  They did not get along at all. In fact there were many times when I felt that I was herding cats.  When I put them with men on a project, all went like clockwork. 

So, am I off track?

Blast me.... go ahead, I can take it.    Really. 

Cindi

Everyone is different in all aspects of life.  I don't think that sounds weird at all if you ask me.  Sure most people suspect you to blend in and enjoy hanging out with the sex you came to be, but hey, that's just a generalized statement if you ask me.

I should ad that I'm somewhat of a flirt

Cindi

Quote from: Cindi Jones on July 26, 2007, 04:40:46 PM
I should ad that I'm somewhat of a flirt

Cindi

Hehe

To be honest hon I also feel its a case of everyone being different and that its down to you to find what makes you happy.  I know a few girls in work who feel a lot more comfortable socialising and working around guys.  Personally I find it a lot easier to get along with and relate to the girls I know rather than the guys.  My best friends brother came round for the evening last weekend and it was quite strange just sitting and having a drink with him and catching up as it was nothing like what its like when I do the same with my girl friends.

Becky
xx

I get on OK with both Men and Women know, before I did find it easier to be with women than men.

I never understood men but now I dont try to,just enjoy their company and their predictibility.

Buffy

Quote from: Buffy on July 26, 2007, 07:03:10 PM
I never understood men but now I dont try to,just enjoy their company and their predictibility.

Karen

Quote from: Cindi Jones on July 26, 2007, 04:40:46 PM
I should ad that I'm somewhat of a flirt

Cindi

I remember girls like you. Laff....

I truly get along much better with everyone, as a woman. As a man I had trouble relating to men because of the whole competition thing. In that regard I have always gotten along better with women. I love to talk, I love to gossip and I love the personal nature of relationships with women. With men, everything is different. I get along a lot better with men now because they don't view me as a threat to them. Most see themselves as being safe with me. I won't attack their manhood or challenge it. I am more than happy to let them change my tire or hold a door for me. I openly admit I hate working on cars and don't like beer either. I don't want to hunt, play darts, ride horses or motorcycles and I hate standard transmissions.

Most of the men I know, I have known for a while. They knew me before when I used to run my own company and went around with my hair on fire most of time. My best friend used to work for me. They all seem to agree that I am still me, just not angry and I seem to care about my appearance more than I used to.

My sister, who I used to play in a band with, says I seem the same to her. We have always had a relationship more like two sisters than brother and sister. She used to pick out and buy my clothes even in high school. She taught me about fashion and how to put on makeup. She didn't know why I wanted to know, she didn't care. She just showed me. I learned how to braid her hair. She always cut my hair. I basically wanted long girly looking hair.

Anyway, I can get along with men, but I just am not that interested in things that interest them. That makes it difficult to find things to talk about. And even more difficult to find anything to do together. That is probably why I hang with my wife. We do everything together. We are just like girlfriends. We even fight like it sometimes. It can be funny at times. We will be in a heated argument and one of us will say, "well that is not very lady like" and crack us both up. Fight over. And like best friends we are at each others throat one minute and hugging our bff the next.

All in all, I could live without men.

Love always,
Elizabeth

Oh, it's not like they are attracted to me at all Tink.  I'm just a bit of a flirt.  I don't believe that there is any sexual tension unless I ask the guys to quit doing the disgusting things that men do. They usually will change their modus operandi for the short time I'm around. 

And I'm sticking to that story!

Cindi

I once fired a man for passing gas in a job trailer. He was an alcoholic and my job trailer where I allowed my guys to eat lunch, because it was air conditioned, was also where I stocked material. Listen, in construction you smell a lot of farts. People can be very not nice about it too. Wait until you are busy, bent over doing something and fart right in your face. Or farting in closed in rooms, because it's just not practical to leave.

Anyway, this particular gentleman was farting those really disgusting rotten egg smelling beer farts. After walking into my trailer once already and getting smelled out, I cautioned him not to fart in my trailer anymore because people had to eat in there. Well, about an hour later, right before lunch I entered the trailer just as he was leaving. I entered the trailer and the smell was so bad, it made me hurl. I ran out of the trailer and hurled and he was standing there laughing.

He could not believe it an hour later when I handed him his check. Yes, men are disgusting.

Love always,
Elizabeth

Quote from: Elizabeth on July 27, 2007, 08:02:52 AM
I once fired a man for passing gas in a job trailer. ........ Yes, men are disgusting.

Oh, Elizabeth!  I don't know whether to laugh or puke.  I think this is part of the reason why most of my deepest friendships have always been with girls.  I have male friends, too, but just not on the same level.  I do enjoy the chit chat.

Kristi

Quote from: Cindi Jones on July 26, 2007, 04:24:51 PM
I read where most trans women relate better to women than men. 

For what is worth, I do relate to men better than women!  I know this goes against the grain of what most here have expressed.  I have never felt totally comfortable in a group of women only.  I don't connect with the chit chat.  Actually, I get bored.

Even though I get along famously with just about every one I meet, I find that I personally am happier when I'm with a group of mostly men than I do with a group of mostly women. 

Is that weird or what?  I don't fit the mold..... oh no... what am I gonna do? 

From my life's experience, I find this not uncommon. For example, I recall a time when I managed a group that had some very driven and self directed women in it.  They did not get along at all. In fact there were many times when I felt that I was herding cats.  When I put them with men on a project, all went like clockwork. 

So, am I off track?

Blast me.... go ahead, I can take it.    Really. 

Cindi

It's not at all uncommon. My stepfather has all women friends. (strictly platonic; they share common interests and conversation) He constantly has issues with the men he works with.
He just gets on better with women.
Perhaps you have interests that more men than women share, or perhaps you just relate better to men.
I know there's this thing in our community that you must be a stereotype, you're supposed to be with members of your target gender and such.
But there are many non-trans men and women who just get on better with the opposite sex.

Cindi
I am with you. I feel much more comfortable around guys. I think I know why too. When I am around women it is always a competion thing. Like oh have you tried this to get rid of the lines on your face, or do you fit into a size# dress. The only cute ones are in that size you know. They are most always trying to dig at you to be queen of the roost.

The guys on the other hand treat me like just anyone else. As long as you listen to them they are happy. They are never trying to be little me. I do like to flirt as well. It does get you attention. I like attention. It is nice to get it. No not sex! I try to have a bonfire at the ranch every Thursday. I tell all of my friends to come and bring their girlfriend or boyfriend. It is comical to watch the girls try to keep their guys in check with all of the other women there.

I do like the guys, and I guess that is why I prefer to be around them as to women.

Deb

I live in the country. What can I say. Country girls are, well country. They are very protective of what they have. They don't act like any city girl. Most of my girl friends live in the big city. These girls out here are in competion. Weather it is barrel racing or trying to reel a guy in.

I still relate to guys better, but that is because I prefer to be around them. I will say that all of my vacations are with women, but they have been my best friends for a long time.

Deb

I don't like to be around men, but I do like to be around independent women. We are all different and I like that. We are not in a mold like the sterotypes think we are. We are just like everyone else, different.
Elizabeth, I love the picture.
Sheila

i get on with anyone willing to play loose conversations with me, anyone who needs a subject, or a structure to conversation is harder - even if that person is a nice one.

This type of communication seems to exist in both men and women, though you often need to get someone drunk a few times to get into the flow, from then on you can pick up where you left off.

Quote from: debisl on July 27, 2007, 11:42:47 AM
I live in the country. What can I say. Country girls are, well country. They are very protective of what they have. They don't act like any city girl. Most of my girl friends live in the big city. These girls out here are in competion. Weather it is barrel racing or trying to reel a guy in.
Deb

Deb, this is so true.  Although I generally hate stereotypes, having lived in both, I have noticed this as well.  I think it might be because there is not as much to occupy their 24 hours.  So they naturally get into each others' lives.  This is not all bad, of course.

Kristi

Quote from: regina on July 27, 2007, 11:27:00 AM

Quote from: debisl on July 27, 2007, 10:32:57 AM
When I am around women it is always a competion thing. Like oh have you tried this to get rid of the lines on your face, or do you fit into a size# dress. The only cute ones are in that size you know. They are most always trying to dig at you to be queen of the roost.

I haven't had this experience with the women I know. I find them very loving, mutually supportive and genuinely appreciative of their relationships with other women. Maybe it's the people you're choosing to let in your life. What I will say is that when I hang with women I have to deal with a lot of drama and insecurity (including mine) and when I'm around men, that drama isn't there, but it drives me nuts how bottled up they are. Men are very competitive, but often about very different things than women. In general, I'm not attracted to driven, self-absorbed, competitive people of either gender.

ciao,
Gina M.

Nah. It's cause you're a girl's girl, doll.

I deal mostly with men in my job because I'm in a male-oriented career, but that is just that.  I relate better with women though but I like men for relationships.  So go figure. ~laugh~