My favorite part of the female anatomy is her breasts. I don't want that to change before or after my HRT. I still want to be attracted to women, although i don't mind having guys hit on me every now and then. I know every trans person is different, mtf or ftm, when it comes to hormones, but during HRT has anyone experienced a... uhh... sexual attraction without a change in orientation?

The ONLY thing i like about my male genitalia is being able to masturbate. I've been told quite a few times that i could masturbate with a neo vagina.

Sorry if I'm being inappropriate but i don't want my orientation to change on hormones

hhhm

Its wierd but ever sinve Ive started AA and E I feel more attracted to girls...could be just me ,,,

anyway I dont think it makes much difference eitherways,,,

There have been plenty of threads about this, I think I can say fairly safely that you needn't worry as HRT doesn't appear to change orientation for a large majority of trans people. And really, if it does change your orientation then you probably won't mind anyway. It's not like cis people don't change their sexual orientations.

Quote from: AnnaiyahStarr on December 17, 2013, 04:21:25 PM
My favorite part of the female anatomy is her breasts. I don't want that to change before or after my HRT. I still want to be attracted to women, although i don't mind having guys hit on me every now and then. I know every trans person is different, mtf or ftm, when it comes to hormones, but during HRT has anyone experienced a... uhh... sexual attraction without a change in orientation?

I'm not on hormones yet, but I don't expect it to change my orientation. Lots of MtFs that liked women end up still liking women. Sexual attraction and gender are separate things. And like Ms Grace said, if you do start liking guys, then you probably won't care. I also only like girls.

QuoteThe ONLY thing i like about my male genitalia is being able to masturbate. I've been told quite a few times that i could masturbate with a neo vagina.

I will miss that too. You don't have to get bottom surgery, especially if you have no interest in sex with men. I probably will, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there. I'm not even on the highway yet.

If you sit and think about the whole situation, a lot of things are going to change. You will lose some things you like, and gain some other things.

What i neglected to say in the OP was that i never had sex before (I'm 23) and want to with a women. Plus I'm planning on running a Clips4Sale video studio so i can fund my surgeries... the fun way!

Ravenmoon, what did you mean by "bottom surgery"? If you meant vaginaplasty, i will have that done BUT i hope to still be attracted to women and masturbate... bodily discharge included.

Quote from: AnnaiyahStarr on December 17, 2013, 05:05:14 PM
What i neglected to say in the OP was that i never had sex before (I'm 23) and want to with a women.

Be aware that you are complicating finding a partner... but shouldn't be a problem for a young person like you.

QuotePlus I'm planning on running a Clips4Sale video studio so i can fund my surgeries... the fun way!

Cool!

QuoteRavenmoon, what did you mean by "bottom surgery"? If you meant vaginaplasty, i will have that done BUT i hope to still be attracted to women and masturbate... bodily discharge included.

Yes, I meant vaginoplasty.  As far as the masturbate and discharge part, others will have to answer.

From what I have been told and read.. some people end up with lower sex drives (because of the reduction in testosterone), but some are fine. Some have orgasms easily, and some don't.

What kind of bodily discharge are you expecting? You do realize that you will not be anatomically the same as a genetic woman down there, right? It's cosmetically and functionally close.

I mean this isn't something you can control.   Some people don't experience any change, some find they just shift a little down or up the kinsey scale, others change totally.  I am not 100% convinced hormones are behind the shifts that happen (I'm prob 85% convinced lol) because so many changes are happening on so many levels in your life all at the same time, not the least of which is simply being more honest with yourself.  It's impossible to not conflate things, or know where one thing's influence begins and the other's ends.

In the end though, if you don't have a partner, why does it really matter that much to you?   If when you are honest with yourself you like somebody you didn't expect, why is it bad?  Just go with imo.  This whole thing is about being authentic, so no need to fight anything.

I'm still attracted to women, even after HRT.  I'm more open to dating men if one manages to grab my attention, but that hasn't happened . 

Most of the time I never hear about someone having an entire switch of their orientation - at most, I usually hear people become a bit more bisexual. So if you did end up with some attraction to men, you probably wouldn't lose your attraction to women, and nothing forces you to act on any new attractions that may pop up.

My orientation changed *slightly,* but I was bisexual before and I'm bisexual now (~4 years on HRT), still with a strong preference for women. My attraction to men went from maybe 10% of my perceived orientation to 20%, but that's it.

I liked guys before, I like them even more now and I feel liberated to date them now as I couldn't accept being Gay for some reason - no I have no idea why!! But being straight just seems OK.

The mind is a very strange thing!!

Quote from: Cindy on December 17, 2013, 06:19:15 PM
I liked guys before, I like them even more now and I feel liberated to date them now as I couldn't accept being Gay for some reason - no I have no idea why!! But being straight just seems OK.

The mind is a very strange thing!!

That makes perfect sense. I know I act differently when I'm dressed as a woman, and it's not acting, it's just things things I'm not comfortable doing when people see me as a man, but are perfectly acceptable otherwise.

So that's probably why some people change their sexual orientation after transitioning. It was always there, but masked or suppressed by them being uncomfortable about it.

My orientation is the same, but I've always been straight.  In some ways my emotional attraction to guys seems intensified, so my sexuality has only been reinforced from hrt.  I don't know if that helps.

One thing I would note is that hrt does have an impact on libido and things like that.  So if your sexuality and sex drive is very important, please realize that it will very likely impact that aspect even if it doesn't change your actual orientation.   

Quote from: AnnaiyahStarr on December 17, 2013, 04:21:25 PM
My favorite part of the female anatomy is her breasts. I don't want that to change before or after my HRT. I still want to be attracted to women, although i don't mind having guys hit on me every now and then. I know every trans person is different, mtf or ftm, when it comes to hormones, but during HRT has anyone experienced a... uhh... sexual attraction without a change in orientation?

The ONLY thing i like about my male genitalia is being able to masturbate. I've been told quite a few times that i could masturbate with a neo vagina.

Sorry if I'm being inappropriate but i don't want my orientation to change on hormones

No drugs, including HT, put thoughts into a persons head, they modify perception of what is already there.

i was worried the same as you but i found that instead of finding men attractive, now i just find them useful, lol i mean like a sexual interaction is a possibility, and i know there are still other ways to do it pre op but im sorry, im a lady that doesn't like it "that" way and it is degrading in my opinion, and trust me i have had plenty offers,

secondly your attraction to women will change, you will stop finding them attractive as a sexual object and start finding them attractive as a soul, for me it felt like before i was just lusting and now i am actually emotionally developed enough to love them, the way they look at me, the way they gently caress my skin, the way they sound when they are getting turned on.... one sec i am a little warm now, just deep breaths lol, my damn mind has so much control of my libido

Quote from: kiaraja on December 17, 2013, 09:39:12 PM...the way they look at me, the way they gently caress my skin, the way they sound when they are getting turned on.... one sec i am a little warm now, just deep breaths....

Oh, my, it's gotten warm in here! 

You are so right though. It's actually the way I always thought about women... with the lust part mixed in... that part always got me in trouble. 

Quote from: Cindy on December 17, 2013, 06:19:15 PM
I liked guys before, I like them even more now and I feel liberated to date them now as I couldn't accept being Gay for some reason - no I have no idea why!! But being straight just seems OK.

The mind is a very strange thing!!

Ditto only in the other direction. Gay was not me, but I liked girls before and still do.

Your orientation WON'T be changed by HRT.

If THAT were possible there wouldn't be NO gay men or lesbian women.
They would've  been 'cured' by testosterone or estrogen 'treatment' as has been tried before.

After 4.5 years on E, I have had a couple of epiphanies about my prior sexuality.  I did successfully father 3 children who are adults now, but as a female in temperament. Their mother was the more aggressive and dominant in that part of our relationship.  What the E ended up doing to me was explaining some of my earlier behavior and feelings about men in my early adult life.  I was having crushes on them, (poor fools) and did not want to admit it at the time.  My relations with women had been with two who were the "males" libido  wise in the story.  I married one of them wearing the wrong outfit. (She developed an MI and we divorced when she could no longer be safe with our children.)

Now that I am Post Op, and realize what the hell was happening, I wish I could get a male friend (it will have to be a friend before lover I have found about me) he is happily welcome to do the boy thing to little ole me.  My libido has gone up now that I am single hormone based with the E.

Everyone's reaction is somewhat unique I myself just became slightly more Bi While I sex drive dropped abit which will probably happen to you too. I haven't really lost anything as I still find women attractive. Another transwoman I know went from Bi to completely gay.