I feel like a woman all the time

Well then, welcome to Susan's Place, woman! Hi Stephanie! Hugs, Devlyn

one word: yes

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on December 21, 2013, 08:04:55 PM
Well then, welcome to Susan's Place, woman! Hi Stephanie! Hugs, Devlyn

Hi, thanks

I still give Katies Keyboard Ninja jabs no importance

Quote from: monica93304 on December 21, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
I still give Katies Keyboard Ninja jabs no importance

You better worry about THIS Ninja! She's a fierce one!

Quote from: Miss_Bungle1991 on December 21, 2013, 10:11:48 PM

Quote from: monica93304 on December 21, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
I still give Katies Keyboard Ninja jabs no importance

You better worry about THIS Ninja! She's a fierce one!

uh... I understand everyone has their kinks, but that is just maniacal!

Quote from: FA on December 21, 2013, 10:32:14 PM
uh... I understand everyone has their kinks, but that is just maniacal!

I see what you did there!

Well, I'm new to this site and the idea of thrashing about different topics and ideas sounds great. I'd like to say that I've been a woman from day one. grade school ,high school college and beyond. In college my hair was down to my hips and I had a book bag that was basically a big purse. I lost a lot of girl friends because after a shot time in the relationship  they realized I really wasn't the man inside that I was out side. It hurt quite a long time not understanding why females always seem to treat me the same way after dating for awhile. One girl finally told me that I'd be better off female. It didn't sink in for a long time. Now I know why. I'm not a man.

Yes

Of course.

You're a woman, without any artificial assistance. A vagina doesn't make you a woman. Nor do breasts or makeup. I know many cis women, with all the correct parts that aren't women at all. I even dated one of them. Its that organ that nobody will ever see... Your heart. Ive known this for a long time. We've always been ladies, but too afraid to show it. Till now of course.

Quote from: FA on December 21, 2013, 12:14:01 PM
If you need an operation to be a woman, then you're not a woman.

I agree with this BUT I do want to point out one thing (and it only applies to my situation): I considered the orchi to be essential since I didn't want to be on a full HRT regimen for the rest of my life and GRS was a no-go.

All im saying if u want to get GRS, then do it. Do what makes you happy. But don't feel like its required for validation of your gender.

Quote from: LilLivvy91 on December 22, 2013, 11:51:29 PM
All im saying if u want to get GRS, then do it. Do what makes you happy. But don't feel like its required for validation of your gender.

Well said

If you amputate the penis to a man does he should be called "her" or "it"? Remember, there's cis men with a X, X karyotype. Legally recognized as men.

Women who has suffered from genital mutilation should be referred as "sir" or "it"? Remember, there's cis women with a X,Y karyotype. Legally recognized as women.

Then why non-op or pre-op trans people are not considered being a true woman or man?

If you study a person while they are engrossed in a task and they seem to be male, female or neither then you're probably correct despite what clothes, hairstyle or build they are.
This is why so many of us get outed by people who tell us we are just like women.
I've known many women including my mother and sister who say 'she's just like a bloke' about any butch woman including my cousin and my aunt but they don't equate butchness with FtMness.
There is a definite dividing line between effeminacy in men and butchness in women and transsexualism no matter how many people try to claim otherwise.
I've met very few genuine FtMs but an awful lot of lesbians and gay men who claim to be TS but aren't but then as I don't specifically go to any place that 'has a reputation for being a TG place' it doesn't directly concern me apart from my being interested in the whole subject of transsexualism.

Every one who knows a modicum about genuine gender identity knows that being a woman (or a man, for that matter) is solely about mind.  It is how you see yourself.  It is not how you look.  So YES you are a woman without the operation IF you consider yourself one.  If you identify as one. Simply.

In this thread, you can ask an Androgyne.  Am I a girl because I did have the operation?  Or do I remain a guy?  Am I a girl because I have boobs?  How about boobs, SRS, hair removal ... Other things?  Does all of that make me a woman?  Or was I always a woman living in a guy's role pre-op and then post-op?  Yes, it's all about personal perception.  When someone calls me ma'am when I'm dressed as a guy, I smile.  They are embarrassed, but I am not, because they were right!  Roberto.

Boddi, I agree for the most part. What people in here tend to leave out is: Gender is mental for all parties involved. You may think of yourself as one gender and others may think of you as another.

As bothersome as misgendering is, it is often quite innocent. If someone is convinced they see a man, they will gender that person as male, without asking/needing to see what is inside the pants.

If our internal gender is incongruous with our outward presentation, do not be surprised when you are misgendered. In fact, in many cases, the term misgendering is inaccurate. If gender is between the ears, and someone innocently uses the pronouns that reflect what they see, they have accurately gendered you from their perspective. Now, if they know better and still do it, it is misgendering.

Semantics are weird but if gender is mental for one party it has to be mental for all parties.