Quote from: Tori on January 02, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
That is exactly what I meant.

Waco was Ruby Ridge on steroids. Also, didn't Ruby Ridge happen on Bush Sr.'s watch? It didn't quite fit the point I was making.

Actually Tori, it's not about parties, most people don't get it, but the two party system is just smoke and mirrors, an antagonist vs protagonist operating just like the former Soviet Union vs the US did on a global scale to keep the rest of the world in step. It's the government that is out of control and both parties are culpable partners in a disaster that's unfolding while we are being mentally and emotionally manipulated via the media. Meanwhile the vote gives you a sense of purpose and self empowerment and you take sides thinking it will accomplish something, but it only creates more polarity and division until something happens and we all find ourselves under Marshal Law.

As a wise scientist once said, Man's continued dominance on the planet will always be at the mercy of the Virus. Doesn't have to be political. Just saying...............

What, I have to stock up on stakes and crucifixes too? I think this Earth could do much better without us. So bring it on!

I really think we have similar views on this topic Shantel, I just explained it in a way that had you objecting.

The very idea of one party being in control rather than another can effect the mindset of a great percentage of this country's population... but when it comes down to it, the differences are much smaller than they are advertised to be.

Forgive me, I tried to make a political post that did not step on any toes. I may have muddied my point to avoid starting a conflict. Also, I see this as primarily an American discussion and wanted to add some context for non Americans viewing this thread who may not understand our tradition of guns and survivalism.

I figure in most social collapse scenarios I'll be just fine looting every pharmacy in town. I'm sure others will beat me to the pain killers and antibiotics, but I can't imagine estrogen being high on your average persons survival list. 

Quote from: missadventure on January 02, 2014, 03:21:47 PM
I can't imagine estrogen being high on your average persons survival list. 

That's what I am counting on! Don't forget Veterinarians have the stuff also. I mean, what is so great about the end of civilization if a girl can't look and feel great?

have a semi-trailer ready to go and directions to Eli Lilly  warehouse . Be first in line

Quote from: stephaniec on January 02, 2014, 03:35:57 PM
have a semi-trailer ready to go and directions to Eli Lilly  warehouse . Be first in line

A woman after my own heart! I will provide fire team support, what line?  Line's, we don't need no stinking line's!

Kia Ora,

Paranoia=self fulfilling prophesy ...

"Those who fear they shall suffer already suffer what they fear !" Montaigne

It would seem at times Paranoia is the fifty first state of America...And its location is 'always' just around the bend 

Metta Zenda

I dunno I am not really scared of social collapse, might do the world some good...

I am not scared of the end of the world and social chaos, but damn if coming out to my family doesn't scare me....gosh feel so odd...

The only thing I worry about prepping for is a hurricane and associated storm surge. And I usually have enough hormones to get through that and if I don't, I'll still live.

Quote from: Tori on January 02, 2014, 02:39:05 PM
That is exactly what I meant.

Waco was Ruby Ridge on steroids. Also, didn't Ruby Ridge happen on Bush Sr.'s watch? It didn't quite fit the point I was making.

Both happened on Bill Clinton's watch, actually I'd say at his directive...

Quote from: Nikko on January 02, 2014, 05:57:49 PM
Both happened on Bill Clinton's watch, actually I'd say at his directive...

Absolutely amazing!

Especially considering Ruby Ridge happened months before the '92 election and Clinton wasn't inaugurated until Jan of '93.

Quote from: Aina on January 02, 2014, 05:18:59 PM
I am not scared of the end of the world and social chaos, but damn if coming out to my family doesn't scare me....gosh feel so odd...

LMAO! You totally like nailed it Aina! *giggle*

QuoteIt is a fascinating cycle. We are prone to pessimism when the party we do not like is in power, we can feel helpless. We are also prone to belief in conspiracy theories. Since JFK and Vietnam, a majority of people believe in at least one conspiracy theory.

I'm pessimistic about government in general regardless of which party is in power.  Government with too much control is a cancer regardless of their ideology, it will turn deadly either way.

I support anyone who promises to weaken the system and make the individual stronger, I don't care their party affiliation.

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I figure in most social collapse scenarios I'll be just fine looting every pharmacy in town. I'm sure others will beat me to the pain killers and antibiotics, but I can't imagine estrogen being high on your average persons survival list. 

    And water, don't forget to stock up on water!

My plan to prevent de-transition upon a societal meltdown.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY&feature=player_embedded

Quote from: Nikko on January 02, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
I'm pessimistic about government in general regardless of which party is in power. 

I agree. I think that all politicians suck regardless of whatever side they are on. They are all the same frickin puppets anyway.

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 02, 2014, 03:13:57 AM
Sorry, but the Posse Comitatus has been lifted. The military can now act on U.S. soil against us citizens. It is one of the reasons I stopped being a reserve Deputy Sheriff. I can't support that.

Not really lifted, but modified by the Insurrection Act.

Quote from: Jamie D on January 02, 2014, 10:00:21 PM
Not really lifted, but modified by the Insurrection Act.

Eh way i see it is if they ever open fire on me...the usual urban patrol is 4 to 8 guys, each with an M16A4 equipped with either an EOtech or a Trijicon 4X ACOG and all are hauling about 400 rounds of 54 grain Rock River 5.56....if i live, i just got 4-8 new rifles without filling out a 4473 or having to pay for a Class 3 tax stamp and plenty more ammo....i just gotta get itout of those crappy metal magazines the military uses then play with the "fun switch" a little before more show up.