Hi
I recently found out that Dr Suporn gives his patients a "blue band" that helps with dilating by keeping the dilator in place without the needs of hands, so you can basically read a book or such while having the dilator sitting in its place. At first I used hands to keep it in, which was annoying , then I learned in the IRC chat here about how to use a sort of yoga seat and then use the heels to keep it in place. I am not very much a yoga person though, so I am not always comfortable in such a position. So I was wondering if these tools like that blue band or others are available anywhere - basically any tools that allow one to keep the dilator in place while reading or sleeping?
thanks

I would think something like painter's tape would make the same effect or silicone (medical) tape if sensitive to adhesive but it (keeping the stent in a long time) isn't something I've thought of much to be honest (because I'm kinda lacking in depth).

Ah - no I think this is not about adhesive tape. Here is a description of a visit at Suporn that has a picture of it: http://www.sarahhelene.com/chonburi/day12.html

Wow, I would have loved something like that during the early days of dilation... never even heard of such a thing, and it looks SO convenient!

Quote from: Jenna Marie on January 05, 2014, 01:10:21 PM
Wow, I would have loved something like that during the early days of dilation... never even heard of such a thing, and it looks SO convenient!

wow it certainly would have. Much more easier and comfortable than just holding it while laying there watching re-runs on the tele!:P

Ok, that constant pulling sounds not great unless you can attach it somewhere...
I am not sure about the static or dynamic dilation now - I sort of assumed that dilation is static mostly - I need so make another topic on this maybe to ask who used what kind of dilation - the ones I talked to up to now all seem to have done mostly static ones?

For me it is now about regaining width after some loss in the past years so I am not sure what method to use. I used static up to now and have some good success it seems... what are the advantages of dynamic dilation? It takes more effort of course - no watching TV in the meantime or chatting

I did wonder how it would work with dynamic dilation! And nah, if you have to sit there yanking on it, that's not actually much easier than the regular kind of dilation, just differently annoying. Oh well.

(I'm down to 2-3X a week for only 15 minutes now anyway, and I don't mind that so much.)

Hehe - I started with an inflateable dildo before I got the Soul Source dilators. It worked a bit but not great as the air only went to those parts that were already soft and basically those were the parts that needed the least dilation... But I can try now again after it all has evened out a bit. Hard to imagine anyone is twice the size of the "Orange Monster" from Soul Source - but well, who knows...
I am not sure and rather suspect that I will not get information on this from that surgeon... his "dilation instructions" basically was to get a BF and have regular intercourse. I guess I could interpret this now as a suggestion to "dilate dynamically", but I rather suspect he did not take it seriously. Though I guess that would have worked but at that time I was with a GF and ... ah forget it. Basically the technique was the standard everyone was using in the 1990ies - PI.

Quote from: anjaq on January 07, 2014, 02:06:45 PM
Hard to imagine anyone is twice the size of the "Orange Monster" from Soul Source - but well, who knows...

While not "twice as big" my BF is bigger than the orange and he fits just fine. however if he was any larger  when we first had intercourse I was like OMG and I actually wasn't even on the orange (or had the orange)  he was also the one who broke the seal...lol  its amazing but the body does tend to work things out surprisingly, now I am only dilating with the orange and when I do its 45 min-1 hour, and I hold it stil for a lil bit than I wiggle it around a bit , sometimes pull it out and twist/spin it, and go back to depth. basically just keep from being board, I will say once I started having sex everything seems to be easier and less trouble some. Oh and the first time..... was so awkward lol

Yeah ok, having a BF is probably the best "dilation helper" - do you still have to dilate even if you have a BF and frequent sex? I thought that would sort of take care of most of the work then... I cannot imagine anything bigger than the orange dilator at the moment, but who knows - soft parts may be easier. Though... doesnt it hurt for the BF as well if he would ... you know ... when its that tight?
I never had that possible pleasure yet - I can imagine it being awkward because probably it is not as one thinks, it is probably more painful or less fun or whatever - different - from expectations? I have no clue. I kind of feel like I might want to try it but totally do not know how to start it with guys and not even sure I should...
So for now, I better stick to dilating with the dilators

Yea when I had it for that first time I was ok its been like a real long time since the last time I did this so we should prob go a lil slow. and it sucked for like 20 minutes then it got good and well its only gotten better since and now at this point I pretty much can go without lube, that is unless I douche then its way to dry. I am not post op at 1 year yet and technically am suppose to be dilating everyday twice, preferably,  but at about 7 or 8 moths I just cut back and realized I was fine at 3 days between dilations, and if we had sex then yea the dilations didn't matter anymore so much..... I still try to do them when I can but being stealth and figuring when can be kinda a pita. plus we live together now so.... well long story short is when I get a moment, either because he gos to work early and I late or I'm home early and he has to work late, then I try to throw a 30 min to 1 hour dilation in there.  however I will note I have went 2 weeks without dilation and didn't have an issue. So I think I am good at this point and I really don't have to be doing it as frequently but still am, or at least am trying     

Quote from: Yasmine on January 07, 2014, 08:15:09 PMWhat may be awkward if you're stealth to him is that he might feel like he is ->-bleeped-<-ing a virgin.... He still seems to think I get wet like any other girl though. Maybe he just wants to think that I get wet, because if I get wet then he must be doing it right..

Ah yes I can see how this can be awkward. I guess the feeling would be mutual then. I mean - that part about virgins. I mean - phew - I would not even know where to start there, so I guess that would make him feel even more like you said above. It would be kinda hard to tell a guy "a look, I am nearly 40 now but can you please be careful this is my first time" :\

I guess I would not get wet either. I have some wetness normalls, especially if I regularly use the Estriol cream, but since they removed all glands that could produce wetness there is little chance this would work. I guess the newer surgeries may have a preservation of these glands...

Quote from: calico on January 08, 2014, 12:35:16 AMI still try to do them when I can but being stealth and figuring when can be kinda a pita. plus we live together now so.... well long story short is when I get a moment, either because he gos to work early and I late or I'm home early and he has to work late, then I try to throw a 30 min to 1 hour dilation in there.

Wow - so you're steath with your BF and you are within the 1 year post op range and you two are already living together? Now that is diving in fast.
I am not sure I could be stealth with a BF who is moving in with me or even who is intimate with me. Or a GF, which was up to now the option for me. I told the two women I was with about that issue around the time we became intimate. I was way too afraid they would obviously notice the scars and different physiology resulting from the reconstructive surgeries. But I guess guys may not look that closely.

Yea wasn't really planning diving in this fast originally. I thought I'd date for a lil bit, get use to stuff, and well my new body. But well it kinda started snowballing after the first 2 weeks of dating
Yea I was worried about clockability but my pcp and gynecologist both told me I had no worries.... so I went with it, and well there hasn't been an issue. 

the blue band was useful but i haven't used it ever since dilating got easier and i started dynamic dilating. That was at 2-3 weeks post-op, i think. I still have it in case i need it, but i don't think so.
During Dynamic dilation i usually watch TV, or read a book or even play a video game (one i can mostly play with only one hand though!). I never need to use more than one hand and basically it's just pushing in for a few seconds, and then stirring for a few seconds, then pushing again, and so on. And that for 15 minutes.

15 minutes would be awesome. At present I take 2 hours, mostly static. And it still hurts a bit. So I guess even the feared Suporn excessive dilation procedure is less than what I need now. Ah well. I might try this dynamic dilation for some time at the end of the session, maybe it helps to make things better faster...

well you first need to get it to full-depth, which for me can usually take 15-30 minutes and nearly an hour on a bad day. I hear from others that it can them in total nearly 2 hours though. It seems like the instructions aren't always consistent for everyone either.
It IS easier to get the dilator in with dynamic dilation though, since you're continuously forcing the canal to widen and always pushing a bit further in.

Hmm - ok. I get to maximum depth in not so long time but that is not that much anyways. Its not a Suporn surgery that I had. So to get to the 5 inches is not that difficult. I could try to go beyond that but I think I get into parts there that are sort of sensitive, so I do not know if I should... definitely not dynamic at that point.  But then it takes for an hour or so to settle in to the width and not feel tight anymore...
Do you think it would make sense to still try to push a bit for depth and use dynamic dilating for width?
I guess I am collecting issues to ask for a possible future consultation with a surgeon here that I wanted to ask what I can still do now to improve. I want him to do some plastic surgery still, improve some things in the look of my vulva - and I want him to check how it looks overall in and out. Now I can also ask him if I should try to get more depth or if it would need a revision to get that. Which I  probably would not want...

i honestly don't know. As you said you did not have surgery with suporn, so i do not know how dynamic dilation and everything would work for you. But i did gain about 1.5 inches from what i had been promised and had just after surgery with dynamic dilation. I just push as much as it will go.
But again it's not the same for everyone, so i don't know how that would work out for you

Quote from: Layn on January 20, 2014, 12:07:59 PMWell you first need to get it to full-depth, which for me can usually take 15-30 minutes and nearly an hour on a bad day. I hear from others that it can them in total nearly 2 hours though.

  Takes me about 10 seconds.  Even when I was a new post-op it never took me more than about a minute.

Suporn too? I don't know. I might have trouble with that part since i've got some granulation in stupid places that makes it somewhat hard. Could also be because i'm trying to reach more full-depth? I do remember it being easier and faster in Thailand. It's usually on the shorter side of what i mentioned, but there were times when it got worse probably due to excessive traveling. Also i do take it relatively slow.
But then i wonder what keeps others so long? when it's in i do the 15 minutes which really is about what seems to be needed and i'm done.