Quote from: thatboyfresh on January 08, 2014, 02:33:36 AM
I'm... just going to leave this here.




My abs progress so far.

Hey, I have the same!

Who needs a six pack when you can have a full keg, lol. But in all honesty, I'd love to have a six pack but I know I'm too lazy to ever achieve that, meh meh meh.

Quote from: Tossu-sama on January 08, 2014, 02:47:35 AM
Hey, I have the same!

Who needs a six pack when you can have a full keg, lol. But in all honesty, I'd love to have a six pack but I know I'm too lazy to ever achieve that, meh meh meh.

Oh Goddess guys!

The first time I was arrested was trying to get on a bus with a friend after we had 'borrowed' a keg from a pub and got tired carrying it down the street. Ahh we forgot to tell anyone we borrowed it, and escape by public transport. Mmmm you know I'm a genius?

Oh we were underage as well!

Quote from: CursedFireDean on January 07, 2014, 10:47:33 PM
One thing that may work too is the 30 day fitness challenge.
There's tons of different ones, but some good ab ones I've done are the plank challenge and the ab challenge. They're only written for 30 days but I'm sure you could continue it yourself if it works for you.
http://30dayfitnesschallenges.com/
They've also got videos on proper techniques for some of their exercises which is nice since they do some things like sit ups differently than how I learned them.

In addition to that, there's also a lot of fitness programs you can pick up. There's the BeachBody ones, like the P90 series, along with TapOut which is sold at Target for a more reasonable price. They have a little more variety in them.

Quote from: Jack_M on January 08, 2014, 02:40:47 AM
What is it? You're asking if you can and then saying that you did. That makes no sense!

Hmm. . .  well just thinking, he said when he was younger. Perhaps younger is pre-puberty for him? Before puberty, there wasn't all those female hormones floating around. Once you hit puberty, that's when all the female fat pattern starts. Maybe his sister thought you can't once a female bodied person starts puberty.

Quote from: LearnedHand on January 07, 2014, 09:50:54 PM
Yeah, you seem like you're already a really thin guy, so hopefully it doesn't take as much work for you. You might want to check out some different types of abdominal exercises to tone up your stomach if there's not much fat on it.

I have that stubborn little pouch of fat on my lower belly, but I am hoping with some good diet and exercise I'll finally get that little pouch off. I've never been able to get more than a 4 pack because of that pooch, but I think I'll finally make it this year. Yay, beach this summer for me.

What are you doing to get rid of the pooch?

Quote from: LearnedHand on January 08, 2014, 06:52:23 AM
In addition to that, there's also a lot of fitness programs you can pick up. There's the BeachBody ones, like the P90 series, along with TapOut which is sold at Target for a more reasonable price. They have a little more variety in them.

Hmm. . .  well just thinking, he said when he was younger. Perhaps younger is pre-puberty for him? Before puberty, there wasn't all those female hormones floating around. Once you hit puberty, that's when all the female fat pattern starts. Maybe his sister thought you can't once a female bodied person starts puberty.

I do insanity that's alot better but my mom said, That because I'm younger it doesn't take that much

Quote from: Alexthecat on January 08, 2014, 07:46:06 AM
What are you doing to get rid of the pooch?

Cardio, eating lean, and some strength training. I just started p90x3 this Monday and I am following the nutrition guide it came with. Prior, I did the T-25 program, but I absolutely hated it, I thought it was boring, so my results weren't that good probably because I wasn't excited about the workouts. I had good results with Body Beast program, but to get a 6 pack on that program you already needed to be down to a low bmi because you needed to eat so much on that program.

Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on January 08, 2014, 12:47:22 AM
If you had one as a female bodied person, then why would you believe your sister?

Because that was before puberty liked LearnedHand said

There's 3 p90x's? So your on the 3rd one? How is the food, I'm a pretty picky person. I would like to loose the pooch too but can't do anything until I heal after surgery.

Quote from: Alexthecat on January 08, 2014, 09:24:54 AM
There's 3 p90x's? So your on the 3rd one? How is the food, I'm a pretty picky person. I would like to loose the pooch too but can't do anything until I heal after surgery.

I didn't do the other ones, I just jumped into 3 because my coworker invited me to do x3 with her. I was going to start at the beginning.

The food is good, because they don't tell you what to eat, they just make suggestions. Its more like "breakfast: 2 proteins, 1 carb, 1 fat" sort of thing, and they give you lists of what counts s fat, carb, protein, etc. so you choose from the lists to make your menu.

Sounds doable with the food. I'd love to see your results over time if you're comfortable. I might have to 'acquire' a copy of the program.

Quote from: Brandon on January 08, 2014, 09:05:46 AM


Because that was before puberty liked LearnedHand said

Puberty doesn't change the way your muscles are arranged in your body. Two don't just disappear.

I could be completely wrong here, but my personal experience is that it is a lot harder as a female bodied (and female hormone dominated) person to get a six pack. There's something about the fat distribution on the lower part, at the thighs and lower stomach (near the groin) that makes the lower two abs very hard to see for women. Doesn't mean they aren't there, but they are just less visible. That pooch is very hard to get rid off, but not impossible. I always had a 4-pack as a female, but now that I use testosterone, it's turning into a six pack. Probably because the fat is moving, or disappearing. I don't know. Again, this is my experience and doesn't mean that it is what happens to the majority.

Quote from: lxndr on January 08, 2014, 12:03:10 PM
Puberty doesn't change the way your muscles are arranged in your body. Two don't just disappear.

He's not saying the muscles disappear, its just with fat retention its more likely to get covered once you hit puberty.  Its the pooch most female bodied persons who aren't hard core athletes or sickly thin have.

Quote from: Nygeel on January 08, 2014, 01:34:04 AM
A six pack does require having very low body fat. Most guys don't show them until they're around 10% body fat. Even when Arnold Schwarzeneger was young he didn't have a 6 pack!

Arnold's thighs have six packs...

Quote from: LearnedHand on January 08, 2014, 12:38:29 PM
He's not saying the muscles disappear, its just with fat retention its more likely to get covered once you hit puberty.  Its the pooch most female bodied persons who aren't hard core athletes or sickly thin have.

I don't have that though I already have abs, I'm atheletic and I dance so I'm good

Quote from: LearnedHand on January 08, 2014, 12:38:29 PM
He's not saying the muscles disappear, its just with fat retention its more likely to get covered once you hit puberty.  Its the pooch most female bodied persons who aren't hard core athletes or sickly thin have.

Then it is possible, just more difficult. Not the same question.

Can I chime in?

I'm as fit as anything and pre E had a hard lean tummy, post E I have to work like crazy to keep it, even if I lay of for a week the tummy wants to accumulate a fat layer, so sort of the reverse. I can understand this!

Quote from: lxndr on January 09, 2014, 01:09:44 AM
Then it is possible, just more difficult. Not the same question.

I don't think its gonna be to difficult for me

Quote from: LearnedHand on January 08, 2014, 10:14:05 AM

Got the exercise files, the calender, and the chart of protein/carbs/fat. Still missing the rest of the book, hopefully I can find it for the recipes. I think I will be doing it in March if I'm able.

Quote from: Alexthecat on January 10, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
Got the exercise files, the calender, and the chart of protein/carbs/fat. Still missing the rest of the book, hopefully I can find it for the recipes. I think I will be doing it in March if I'm able.

Sounds good Alex, I don't have the whole book either. Most of it is about proper form, then food stuff.