I've noticed on a lot of different tg/tv/cd accessories sites that they often sell "glandular" female hormones. I understand that these are not the same thing as actual HRT but it is curious. Has anyone ventured down that route before? Have you had any type of results?

An example of what I'm talking about...


I typically take anything like this with a grain of salt, but I am curious about the validity of possible results, and even dangers if any of taking it?

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Comment: They will do nothing and are potentially dangerous
Cindy

I don't know anything about them, but generally if something like this works (especially something OTC or not requiring a prescription), you wouldn't have to ask, because it would have already revolutionized how HRT is handled.  To take the hypothesis that they work, you're essentially betting on there (most likely) being a widespread cover-up among major universities and research institutions that study trans individuals, not unlike "homeopathic medicine" in the broader medical community.

I suppose. I was just wondering if they even work at all. And even if their effects are not as potent as the prescription stuff, perhaps as something people can do while waiting for hrt. Although I think it may pose some concerns medically as you wouldn't have the medical supervision you would normally have on the prescription stuff. And if we were to assume that these products have some type of hormone-changing effects, how much is too much and when do things become dangerous to health?

I've been taking herbal supplements for a year now. Not to many changes yet because my testosterone was so high to begin with and my testes are very resilient. I order them from a website. I haven't even seen a doctor about hormones. I have been to a therapist though.

At best they are a waste of money. At worst they can be dangerous.

Quote from: Mickie on January 14, 2014, 02:16:50 AM
I suppose. I was just wondering if they even work at all. And even if their effects are not as potent as the prescription stuff, perhaps as something people can do while waiting for hrt. Although I think it may pose some concerns medically as you wouldn't have the medical supervision you would normally have on the prescription stuff. And if we were to assume that these products have some type of hormone-changing effects, how much is too much and when do things become dangerous to health?

To be fair glandular extracts can work and are used as the basis for a variety of legitimate medications, such as thyroid medicines... but you aren't going to find anything that's guaranteed to be either safe or effective on the cd\ts sites.  Most of these supplements are targeted towards people who are desperate and aren't going to be too critical about what they are buying.  If you are lucky you might end up buying a bottle of ineffective pink sugar pills and just waste your money.  At the unlikely but absolute worst end of the scale, you could end up with liver damage or pick up a case of spongiform encephalopathy from consuming raw glandular tissue.

I'm ashamed to admit it, but I've been that desperate person who's shelled out hard cash for a bottle of pills to make me feel better about myself.  And taking them did make me feel like I was at least moving forward and doing something.  I did feel better for a bit and I looked anxiously for the promised changes; and for a while I convinced myself that I was seeing them...  but to be honest... you'll see more change in the first month on HRT than you will see in years on any of the "supplements" that are out there. 

If you are feeling stuck but aren't ready for HRT and are anxious to move forward then please spend your money for the stuff that really works.  Get into therapy, hire a voice coach, start laser or electrolysis, etc.    Folks here can provide you with lots of suggestions for positive steps forward.

Let us be honest here.

I could give you a link to Cindy's med store, you will receive little blue pills and a regime to follow. I will charge you $50 no questions asked.

I will even add letters after my name and supporting posts telling you that Miss Darling went from an A cup to a D cup in six weeks, and show the pics. If you want the real advice that is an extra $100 extra, but you get free advice and my exercise regime and patented massage method.

You are desperate: Lovely.

Miss Darling even has a You Tube link to show it is true.

I can do all of that in an hour or two.

I will make a profit. That is all I want.

Please just think

Im leaving this place, its not for me, too may frauds and fakes.

BUT, if you can manage it, find a legitimate doctor and get prescribed a proper HRT regimen. It works and its relatively safe so long as you monitor blood work. Its proven, it works and it is the right thing to do for your body in the long run. It might take longer but remember this is a life long change you are making. You dont want to get sick.

Quote from: amber1964 on January 16, 2014, 03:41:12 AM
Im leaving this place, its not for me, too may frauds and fakes.

BUT, if you can manage it, find a legitimate doctor and get prescribed a proper HRT regimen. It works and its relatively safe so long as you monitor blood work. Its proven, it works and it is the right thing to do for your body in the long run. It might take longer but remember this is a life long change you are making. You dont want to get sick.

My post was sarcastic

It doesnt matter. Please, I dont know how to do it. Delete my profile, my posts, all of it. Im ashamed I came here. The net is actually worse than it was a few years back and this is the worst place I have ever encountered. Liars, loosers, phoney profiles, men masquerading as females, its something else.

Think.

Why did you come here? What have you achieved?

To be brutal, I've had enough of Prima Donnas

Yes that is cruel and nasty

Why?
Because in the end we care for each other and not ourselves. Because a person who is shaving their leg for the first time is important to me. The first time a member walks out as his or her self is important to me.

I don't need this site, to be honest it is a drain emotionally and financially.

But I give and stay for one reason, for one reason only.

I will not let another person go through my Hell.

Look in the mirror tomorrow after you close your account and feel happy.

If you decide not to, I'm here, I accept you, I'll try a joke and a laugh and listen to your tears falling over my shoulder.

I accept you with no boundaries regrets or issues.

You deal with yours and when you are ready come back.

Cindy

Woah woah woah people.

Asked a question and got an answer. Didn't intend for things to explode.

I understand that the super claims of miracle snake oil products that are too good to be true usually are, but I figured I'd ask for CURIOSITY sake. (I'm not even at the hrt deciding point yet...) It seems to be the general consensus (other places too, not just here) that these particular items are a general waste of time and money.

Soy and chasteberry suppliments.
They naturally react as estrogen does.
I can be the Guinea pig since im going to try finding it tomorrow at the store.

Edit: oh and massage. Thats actually working from what i can tell.

Quote from: Emo on January 17, 2014, 02:45:00 AM
Soy and chasteberry suppliments.
They naturally react as estrogen does.
I can be the Guinea pig since im going to try finding it tomorrow at the store.

Edit: oh and massage. Thats actually working from what i can tell.

Afaik, you don't want to add too many phytoestrogens to your body if you're on HRT, because they are mug weaker than estradiol  and compete for the same receptors.

Quote from: Thylacin on January 17, 2014, 07:27:56 AM
Afaik, you don't want to add too many phytoestrogens to your body if you're on HRT, because they are mug weaker than estradiol  and compete for the same receptors.

Oh im not on hrt but thanks for clarifying for the others.