medroxyprogestrone is NOT progesterone! It is some derivative that is not bioidentical. Its value is mostly (if one wants to find any value in it at all) on the uterus of women in the menopause - and even that is not the best use. Plus it can increase cancer risk.

If you want to have the benefits of Progesterone, I think you need to use bioidentical progesterone (aka progesterone, aka natural progesterone, aka micronized progesterone) as this has the same structure as progesterone in the human body. And take it in the evenings, it can make a bit sleepy.

Quote from: anjaq on December 14, 2013, 07:19:16 PM
medroxyprogestrone is NOT progesterone! It is some derivative that is not bioidentical. Its value is mostly (if one wants to find any value in it at all) on the uterus of women in the menopause - and even that is not the best use. Plus it can increase cancer risk.

If you want to have the benefits of Progesterone, I think you need to use bioidentical progesterone (aka progesterone, aka natural progesterone, aka micronized progesterone) as this has the same structure as progesterone in the human body. And take it in the evenings, it can make a bit sleepy.

^This^  And you are soo right about doing P at night.  I would never, ever put anything other than bioidentical hormones in my system or swallow any pills other than antiandrogens.

Is the technical name bioidentical progesterone? and does insurance cover yours?

I would not touch antiandrogens now either. Progesterone is a great Testosterone - to - DHT blocker by the way, and with enough Estradiol and Progesterone, Testosterone usually drops anyways.

The stupid thing is that Progesterone is the real name. It is a specific molecule. And it is naturally bioidentical. Sadly the name "Progesterone" has been loosely applied to a numbe rof gestagens that are different in chemistry and not bioidentical, so nowadays one has to check if it really is Progesterone - if it says "natural" or "bioidentical" one can be sure, therwise one has to check the medical ingedientes if they list progesterone.

and in my case insurance pays.

Woohoo!  Took my first progesterone pill today. Hopefully I will have something to report soon, no sign of DDD's yet dang it 

Quote from: Eva Marie on January 16, 2014, 09:47:16 PM
Woohoo!  Took my first progesterone pill today. Hopefully I will have something to report soon, no sign of DDD's yet dang it 

LMAO  You're so cute hon, great sense of humor!

My first Prometrium script is being processed by by prescription insurance carrier.  Initially scheduled to ship on the 21st, then the 22nd, then 24th, now the 27th.

I'll expect them when I see them, and report any effects here once there is something to report.

so i had a meeting with my endo the other day, he was happy to prescribe me prometrium, but he said he thought it best to take it every day, i asked him if it would be better to cycle progesterone on a 13 day cycle like most women get for a menstrual cycle and he told me he didn't care if i did that, his explanation was that there wasn't enough scientific research done for him to make that call but if i wanted to cycle progesterone like that then he didn't see any reason why it would do me any harm.

my question is, would it be better to stay on progesterone everyday or cycle it like a menstrual cycle? do any of you other girls on progesterone have any advice that might be helpful? 

My docs told me to take it everyday too. I did the same thing kiaraja, asked them if it would be better to cycle and they said its pointless since we/I dont have a uterus ya know. Then again I haven't tried cycling but I notice when I've been off of progestrerone for a short while I get bad moodswings and just overall feel ->-bleeped-<-ty throughout the day. It doesn't happen every day of the week but I know I don't feel nearly as good like when I'm on progestrone. Been taking P since the start of hrt, for the first 6 months it was medroxy then after I switched (due to depression) to prometrium. Massive difference from the synthetic to bio identical. So yeah been happy ever since!

As far as breast growth mine seem to be developing nicely. My endo said I should reach full development at the rate I'm going. The progesterone has definitely helped with my development since my breasts are developing pretty fully.

ya i noticed that the first day on p i was crazy moody, i was ready to kill someone and was afraid i would probably harm someone, i was 60 feet up on an upper deck and some small problem got blown out of proportion and i had an unbelievably insane temper tantrum, i just about chucked my railing and glass off the deck, i was cursing like a pirate and all the construction workers avoided me after that since they probably thought i was unstable lol, well any hormone change does that to me i guess but all is better now that my system is now used to the p

Ha yeah been there, thankfully when I do turn into the dragon I lock myself away. That way I don't bite anyone's head off lol. Whats strange is I do have a time of the month tho. I just feel super crappy and just get frustrated very easily. I do get bloated and actually that time is coming up soon 

i have noticed before i started the p also that i would have a random moodswing happen sometimes, i never looked into it and never recorded the timings but i wouldn't be surprised if i have a pms cycle, every once in a while i do sometimes look in the mirror and feel like im over weight, but i think its more the clothes i wear, and i can't tell if i feel bloating since i am a major glutton, but burning over 5k calories a day needs to be fed

My endo did say it was cause of the P that I get the pms cycle

Quote from: Lady_Oracle on January 20, 2014, 03:28:04 AM
Ha yeah been there, thankfully when I do turn into the dragon I lock myself away. That way I don't bite anyone's head off lol. Whats strange is I do have a time of the month tho. I just feel super crappy and just get frustrated very easily. I do get bloated and actually that time is coming up soon 

I realized that I have a hair trigger anger response this week. I find myself weaving in and out of traffic while cursing a blue streak at the other drivers. Going through my day the smallest things that previously would roll off of my back now really chap me. I have no patience. Is this what PMS is like?

On the other hand my boobs seem to have awakened - they are hurting far more than normal.

Note to self: Watch what you do and how you act on P week.

Quote from: Lady_Oracle on January 21, 2014, 04:08:10 AM
My endo did say it was cause of the P that I get the pms cycle

odd I have had the :bad" couple days before the prometrium was added  I still have it even after adding it, I don't believe p should cause a pms cycle, well unless you might be cycling it, which then its very likely it could happen.

Just stating what my endo said *shrugs However I've always been suspicious that I possibly might be intersexed

Quote from: Eva Marie on January 21, 2014, 07:55:41 AM
Going through my day the smallest things that previously would roll off of my back now really chap me. I have no patience. Is this what PMS is like?

YES! it is, I remember when I asked my ex the same thing

I think if you cycle P, the chances are you get some sort of PMS. Strangely enough when I had no P added, I had 2 days or so every couple of week where I had those PMS symptoms. Like Migraine, being nervous, dizzy, angry, tired, sweating, abdominal pain, ... I still have no clue why. Do I "cycle" myself? Almost seems so though it was definitely not a regular 28 day timeframe, so whatever, but in the wake of this I looked into PMS symptoms. I triggered these twice now when I changed my HT by reducing E2 or P. So it can also be hormonal. I guess I better dont want to cycle P and avoid 2-3 days of that state every 4 weeks

I was using it for awhile but mind you I have no body hair other than crotch so I quit using it recently when I noticed a couple of long thin hairs in the center of my chest. 

My endocrinologist put me on Prometrium from day 1. His rationale was that we are attempting to simulate a female hormone balance. I can say that I started to feel "activity" in my nipples within a couple of weeks of starting and that by three months, the underluing buds were about the size of apricots. At 60, that is encouraging.

Ok, so I get that progesterone is a topic of debate. But, after hearing so many accounts where it is said to have aided with breast growth, I am curious. This is something I really want to discuss with my endo. But, I have been on HRT for 2 years today, is it too late to add it now? I'm worried I may have lost my chance for any benefit from it.