Quote from: Willow on January 19, 2014, 06:29:42 PM
Well then vlice is all you need to pass.

Mine is OK, it just doesn't last; I need to "recharge" it. Halfway into a 1.5 hour therapy session and I'm back to talking like a guy no matter how hard I try to speak like a woman.

yeah I have that too , thats why I said I have to be careful to not change pitch...
mine isnt THAT bad,,,but hell , its not a female voice no matter how you look it...on summer I ll try really hard to convince my mom to let me have the surgery...

Voice is something I've given literally no thought to. 

Yeson et al scare the heck out of me.

Quote from: Gwynne on January 19, 2014, 06:32:11 PM
Voice is something I've given literally no thought to. 

Yeson et al scare the heck out of me.

Scared or not  I think I need it,,,
I get more jealous when I hear a girl on the phone than when I see one. its just me on this one,,,but i really want a female voice.

Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 19, 2014, 06:31:24 PM
yeah I have that too , thats why I said I have to be careful to not change pitch...
mine isnt THAT bad,,,but hell , its not a female voice no matter how you look it...on summer I ll try really hard to convince my mom to let me have the surgery...

Think of it as pretty much replacing FFS financially. You only need minor procedures, like tracheal shave and brow shave maybe. I don't remember too much the specifics of what you look like but overall you're a pass with excellence

I'm curious about what FFS might do for me, but not sure it would be worth the huge investment.

Quote from: Gwynne on January 19, 2014, 06:37:50 PMI'm curious about what FFS might do for me, but not sure it would be worth the huge investment.

I don't know about your brow/forehead or trachea, can't see them well, but other than that I don't really think you need it.

Im not getting ffs unless absolutely necessary.

Quote from: Willow on January 19, 2014, 06:34:31 PM
Think of it as pretty much replacing FFS financially. You only need minor procedures, like tracheal shave and brow shave maybe. I don't remember too much the specifics of what you look like but overall you're a pass with excellence

hhm thats true I guess....I dont have 20000 for a full ffs anyways...
anyway I dont know what I should do ,as I said voice is really imprtant for me and I ll try to go for that,,,then raise some money and see what I ll need after hormones...i ll do it if its necessary just like emo XD but im pretty sure id need that brow shave

eeer does tracheal shave change your voice?
or just reduces the size of adams aple?
mine isnt really that prominent you can barely see it

Quote from: Willow on January 19, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
I don't know about your brow/forehead or trachea, can't see them well, but other than that I don't really think you need it.

Thanks.

I have no tracheal prominence. My nose and brow were my primary question marks.

Unless I had confidence that it would be very very beneficial, I wouldn't consider it. Mostly, I'm thinking to a possible future where FFS is covered through public health.

Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 19, 2014, 06:44:15 PM
hhm thats true I guess....I dont have 20000 for a full ffs anyways...
anyway I dont know what I should do ,as I said voice is really imprtant for me and I ll try to go for that,,,then raise some money and see what I ll need after hormones...i ll do it if its necessary just like emo XD but im pretty sure id need that brow shave

eeer does tracheal shave change your voice?
or just reduces the size of adams aple?
mine isnt really that prominent you can barely see it

20K US is cheap. 20K Euro is still pretty cheap.

Trachea shave does nothing to voice. You'd have to go to Yeson or whatnot.
So then just brows maybe, if you need them?

Quote from: Gwynne on January 19, 2014, 06:45:26 PMThanks.
I have no tracheal prominence. My nose and brow were my primary question marks.
Unless I had confidence that it would be very very beneficial, I wouldn't consider it. Mostly, I'm thinking to a possible future where FFS is covered through public health.

So then maybe just some on your brows then.
In Germany is is, IIRC.

Quote from: Willow on January 19, 2014, 06:54:19 PM
20K US is cheap. 20K Euro is still pretty cheap.

Trachea shave does nothing to voice. You'd have to go to Yeson or whatnot.
So then just brows maybe, if you need them?So then maybe just some on your brows then.
In Germany is is, IIRC.

Cant that get me srs?

Woke up, sat up, quickly grabbed my bedside trash basket and threw up    Blew my nose, rinsed my mouth and went back to bed

Quote from: V M on January 19, 2014, 07:54:41 PM
Woke up, sat up, quickly grabbed my bedside trash basket and threw up    Blew my nose, rinsed my mouth and went back to bed

...and stay there til you're well!

Quote from: Gwynne on January 19, 2014, 08:00:50 PM
...and stay there til you're well!

I'm concerned about that lady! Get well Virginia..Hugs

Quote from: Emo on January 19, 2014, 07:06:56 PMCant that get me srs?

In Thailand, yes. I the US, probably not.

Quote from: Willow on January 20, 2014, 12:05:40 AM
In Thailand, yes. I the US, probably not.

It was 6000 in thighland. 20000 here.

I realized how much I suck at applying fingernail polish... I know it comes with experience/time... but it aggravated me.
I tried 3 times.. the 3rd I waited 20 minutes and figured I was good.... it took me about 2 minutes to rip off nearly all the polish from my thumb.

Quote from: Sarah Rose on January 20, 2014, 01:06:02 AM
I realized how much I suck at applying fingernail polish... I know it comes with experience/time... but it aggravated me.
I tried 3 times.. the 3rd I waited 20 minutes and figured I was good.... it took me about 2 minutes to rip off nearly all the polish from my thumb.

Try a salon, I get mine done every six weeks, $40 for gel nails. I'm a hot pink as from today

Oh but they are permanent

All that make up stuff looks so straightforward...until you actually have to do it!
Let's face it, most cis girls have been experimenting with it since they were six or younger...how can we compete with that??

Quote from: Ms Grace on January 20, 2014, 01:40:18 AM
All that make up stuff looks so straightforward...until you actually have to do it!
Let's face it, most cis girls have been experimenting with it since they were six or younger...how can we compete with that??

So true! Quote from my hairdresser when I was having a whinge about styling 'Girls go to their  bedroom at 13 and come out at 18 knowing how to to this, I'm trying to teach you catch up' So true!