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what kind of things would there be to make you stop transition

Started by stephaniec, January 18, 2014, 07:00:08 PM

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Jenna Marie

(It also occurred to me later - as a different sort of contrarian - that in my own definition of transition and my life, the overlooked answer is that I stopped because I was *finished.* :) I'm still trans, but I'm not transitioning anymore. Now I'm just living.)
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MyKa

Dream as if you'll live forever, Live as if you'll die today.....J.Dean
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LittleEmily24

I had to think long about this one because there are times where i get nervous or worried about my future, but i try not to let my fear hold me back so i just storm forward sword in hand :D

But at this point i'd have to say Death, because when i think back to how i use to feel, and think ahead to how my life could go; i'll take the uncertainty any day compared to what it was to live my life back then.
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Arch

It took utter desperation for me to transition in the first place. I saw three options:

1) physical death

2) psychological death (irreversibly crawling into my head and never coming out)

3) transition

I would never voluntarily detransition. If I were forced to--by, for example, some sort of totalitarian government--I don't see how I could survive. So I guess my answer, too, is "death before detransition." It sounds overly dramatic, but detransitioning is one thing that I simply cannot and will not do.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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EmmaD

I have read de-transitioning threads and understand what leads to that for some people.  While I can't think of what would make me stop, I can imagine that constant hostility and pressure may cause a change in perspective.  Because I am an expert procrastinator, each milestone has seemed very natural and I don't regret a second.  Easy? Not really and there is a long journey ahead.

So far, my wife and children are cool with my changes to date - although I accept I may start to freak them out at any time.  Adverse reactions from them enough to end it??  I don't think so but I think that would be the greatest potential source of stress.  It might change things but not my transition.  Even if I did stop HRT, I would cherish all the changes. I have enjoyed this so much and try to enjoy each day and not let fears rule.
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stephaniec

I've got 2 more months still 6 month mark. My body is changing to a point of feeling comfortable. I think turning back would cause far more problems than going forward.
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Jessica Rush

I have asked myself many time if there is any reason for me to stop. Or if anything would make me stop. The moment that question enters my head my immediate response has always been nothing on this earth will stop me. Having to go back to who I used to be would kill me. I was so miserable and the relief and clarity day one of HRT told me who I already knew myself to be.
~Jessica
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FalseHybridPrincess

Quote from: Feyru on January 21, 2014, 05:06:42 PM
I have asked myself many time if there is any reason for me to stop. Or if anything would make me stop. The moment that question enters my head my immediate response has always been nothing on this earth will stop me. Having to go back to who I used to be would kill me. I was so miserable and the relief and clarity day one of HRT told me who I already knew myself to be.

Τhats what I think too...

Who would want for any reason to go back to that despair and agony...

Im only one month on hrt but only the hope of changing is enough for me...
I live thanks to this hope , if it wasnt for that then I cant see a reason to continue...
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stephaniec

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debbie1lawrence

I've had to abort transition twice.
The first time I started transition was shortly after I was diagnosed as a type 6 transsexual - someone for whom transition is a matter of life or death.

At the time of diagnosis, I weighed over 275 lbs (closer to 280).  When I started RLE, I had 8 years clean and sober and was going to a lot of 12 step meetings.  As Debbie, I started going to dances and other social events.  Before long I was being asked to sponsor more people at once than I had sponsored in the previous 8 years combined.  Once people got to know the REAL ME, they really LIKED her.

It took less than a year to lose over 100 lbs, and I was soon wearing size 16.  I was healthy, happy,  and loving my life.  I also had a girlfriend who was bi and invited a couple of her girlfriends to live with us.  Work was amazing, and even though I wasn't dressing at work, I didn't try to hide my feminine side.  It came through easily.  I also wore feminine shoes and women's pants because they fit so much better (I have a large butt).  They knew I was trassexual and planned to transition, and they were actually supportive, many of the executives were women and they liked that i didn't have a fragile male ego that bruised easily.

My therapist had green-lighted me for HRT after I did electrolysis (laser was not available back then).

Then my ex-wife showed me a letter.  It was from a school therapist, stating that my visitations were detrimental to the kids and recommended that my visitation be revoked or at least supervised.  My ex explained that if I did not stop transition, she would deliver that letter to a sympathetic (fundamentalist Christian) judge who would probably also add a restraining order.

Of course, I would still be required to give her half my after tax income PLUS day-care expenses (even though the kids were being caref for by her new husband).  Aborting the transition was terrible.  My life started unraveling in some nasty ways.  The child support was crushing me financially.  The girls left, I had to move into a cheaper apartment.  I started gaining weight, by blood pressure was soaring, and I quit my job to go into consulting.

I took on a project to make the internet available commercially (no I did not invent the internet).

I moved to NY for a consulting gig that would get my debts paid off and give me some breathing room on child support.  I also started dressing and started exploring transition again.  When that engagement ended, I decided to do work in NJ, where I began to establish myself as a leader.

I was invited into a leadership training program where I would eventually be speaking to large groups on a regular basis.  There was one condition.  I had to "Burn the dresses".  Eventually, they asked me "Can you be Debbie in the Suit?".  Debbie completely shattered all records in terms of performance and measures,   But when speaking to groups I came across as deceptive and inauthentic.  I finally dropped out of the program, but only after gaining almost 75 lbs.

Overweight, I began to feel too fat to go out as Debbie.  Eventually, I gained another 100+ pounds, peaking out at 330 before having a heart attack.  I'd felt like I couldn't transition, and I'd lost the will to live.  Fortunately I survived anyway.

I began to realize that if I wanted my health back, I had to bring Debbie back.  I put a profile on Match.com with pictures of Rex and pictures of Debbie.  Sadly I used Rex as the cover photo.  When I got a response back saying "Dude, you're wearing a dress, what's that about", i sent back a full response, explaining that I was transsexual and had aborted transition a while back but wanted someone who could accept and love Debbie as much as Rex.

It turned out that she liked Debbie even BETTER than Rex, and we ended up getting married.  She did tell me that I would not be wearing a gown.  :-(  Still, it was the beginning of a wonderful relationship and there was lots of love for ME, Debbie, and she began to understand that "Rex" was more like a mask I wore, a "clown", a "nerd", and a "Chameleon" who could fit in with almost any group, even though we had nothing in common.  I still didn't transition and eventually I had a stroke that took out the left side of my body.  I rejected any pain killers and learned to do everything all over again, including writing, walking, and eating with my left hand.  Only a neurologist could tell that i'd ever had a stroke now.  I still struggle with simple computations like calculating a tip.

Just before my dad died, I went to see him and he told me "If i can't give you anything else, I want you to be yourself, even if that's Debbie".  For the rest of his life Debbie was at his bedside, taking wonderful care of him.  Just before the end he even thought I was my mother coming to take him home.

After that, I started seeing a gender therapist again, and started transition again.  There was a point when my wife realized I was taking hormones, and said "I'm not OK with you transitioning".  I stopped everything, therapist, hormones, diet, and RLE.  About a month later I told my doctor I had mixed a Prestone Cocktail (antifreeze and Gatorade) and had decided not to drink it.  I spent about 6 hours locked up in the psych ward (checking my blood work to make sure I hadn't actually TAKEN the cocktail).  I agreed to go back to gender therapy, my wife became more supportive but asked me to take it slow and NOT do SRS, at least until we could be certain that it wouldn't nullify our marriage.

It took longer, but I did return to HRT, taking low doses to allow a gradual transition.  Eventually I started working as "Rexxie" and this Thanksgiving Debbie came to dinner to meet the family.  They were so pleased with Debbie that she got ALL the Christmas presents. Which was so perfect that I cried tears of joy when they asked if it was OK that Rex didn't get anything.  It was PERFECT!

I've lost a LOT of weight, but still have a ways to go (Size 18), and I'm happier and healthier than I've ever been before.  My blood pressure is much better and my bloodwork is better than it's been in decades.  When people hear me mention my approximate age (a girl never tells her real age), they are often shocked, because I look at least 10-18 years younger.

Knowing what I know now, I wish I had transitioned 40 years ago, but that information was not available then.  Thank goodness for sights like Susan's that allow us to share and benefit from the experiences of others who have been down this path.
Debbie Lawrence
Transsexual, Author of LGBT themed books for Kindle
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stephaniec

so glad for you . good luck for the rest of the journey. Yes I'm also so very appreciative that Susan's is here, it does help a lot.
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Paige

Wow Debbie that was one heck of a story.  I'm glad things are working out for you now. :)
Paige
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Allyda

I know this has been said many times here, but it'd be death for me too. I've lived too long as someone I'm not. For the first time in a very long while I feel good about myself. Nope, I've already reached my rubicon, the only thing that could stop me is death. ;)
Allyda
Full Time August 2009
HRT Dec 27 2013
VFS [ ? ]
FFS [ ? ]
SRS Spring 2015



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Jessica Rush

Debbie, that is a powerful story. You had me in tears part way through. Thanks for sharing!
~Jessica
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Allyda

Debbie I'm actually at a loss for words. I agree a very powerful story. I feel privilaged you took the time to share it with us, and am very happy things are now going your way. Hugs :)
Allyda
Full Time August 2009
HRT Dec 27 2013
VFS [ ? ]
FFS [ ? ]
SRS Spring 2015



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Miranda Catherine

Debbie, you deserve a great life, as we all do. As for me, I have hepatitis C and although my liver is fine right now, if my liver fails someday I've already decided I'll die before I de-transition. Anything before September 7th, 2011, wasn't living, and if I was told that I had to go back to that existence to live, I would correct the person explaining my 'options' and tell them.......I'll just leave it at I'll never go back. I'll never trade this mostly happy life, where I finally see me when I look in the mirror, how I've found acceptance everywhere I go, and now I live life instead of exist, have a boyfriend I love and could someday even marry, and now know quite a few friends who never knew me as a male impersonator and others who'd swear I was born female. Trade those for another unbearable dose of pain, sorrow and agony? No, I'll die as I live, as Miranda Catherine Thomson.
These three years have been the best of my entire life
ones I've been able to live without lying
and the only time I've had since the age of twelve
I haven't constantly thought about dying



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stephaniec

I kind of realized  this last week how important my transition is to me. I miscalculated on my funds and ended up with a weeks gap on my estrogen. I can get it in a couple of days, but its made me realize how important it is to me to transition and how much better I feel about my life doing HRT. this short break has awoken me to my need to stay on this path. The past has been an extremely dark and painful place that I can't afford to go back to.
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Allyda

All I know is this last month on hrt has been an eye opener for me. I feel better, I feel right, I have more energy than I've had in years. There's nothing on this earth that could make me stop my transition, nothing! ;)
Allyda
Full Time August 2009
HRT Dec 27 2013
VFS [ ? ]
FFS [ ? ]
SRS Spring 2015



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stephaniec

for me personally if there is such a thing as a miracle drug this is it. I'm only speaking for my self and its affect on me , but it's so amazing the 180 degree turn from wanting to jump off a building every day of your life to having a future with feeling so complete. I'm a woman and estrogen is letting me feel like I've wanted all my life.
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allisonsteph

At times I think that if I am not able to secure employment I will have to de-transition and go back into the working world as a male.

Thankfully I have a very loving and supporting partner (FTM) who reminds me of how miserable I was trying to live as a male, and how much happier and healthier I have been since I started transition.

I currently have identical profiles on a few major job search websites under both my male and female names. Neither has received any attention worth mentioning, so I have to keep reminding myself that I'm not having a hard time finding work because I am trans, I am having a hard time finding work because the job market sucks, particularly in my field.

In Ardua Tendit (She attempts difficult things)
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