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So this would be interesting to do (VR body swap)

Started by SuchisLife, January 22, 2014, 12:37:16 AM

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Anatta

Quote from: SuchisLife on January 22, 2014, 12:37:16 AM


Kia Ora SuchisLife,

Wow...That would be mind blowing (especially for a post transitioner) Thank you for posting this...

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suzifrommd

Fascinating, but I can't imagine the dysphoria I'd feel when it was all over.
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Jessika Lin

Quote from: suzifrommd on January 22, 2014, 07:17:55 AM
Fascinating, but I can't imagine the dysphoria I'd feel when it was all over.

That is exactly what I was thinking!
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Anatta

Quote from: suzifrommd on January 22, 2014, 07:17:55 AM
Fascinating, but I can't imagine the dysphoria I'd feel when it was all over.

Kia Ora Suzi,

(Some food for thought for the neurons to chew over)

You never know, something more positive might/could happen....where a placebo-like effect could take place where ones senses are tricked into thinking the parts are really ones own, which in turn fires up the chemical cocktail in the brain which increases the production of estrogen(or testosterone whatever the case may be) in order to try and replicate what one imagined one felt and saw....The mind is a powerful manipulator of the physical body.... So Ya never know ! ;)

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JustEmily

Cool.  This reminds me of the mirror box experiment with amputees (sort of).



I wonder if it would actually lessen dysphoria to a degree.  The sensory cortex sees what "should" be there and the mind stops flipping out because its not.  For a little while anyway.
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Anatta

Quote from: JustEmily on January 23, 2014, 11:11:07 PM
Cool.  This reminds me of the mirror box experiment with amputees (sort of).



I wonder if it would actually lessen dysphoria to a degree.  The sensory cortex sees what "should" be there and the mind stops flipping out because its not.  For a little while anyway.

Kia Ora JustEmily,

You make a very interesting point...And thanks for posting the clip...

Metta Zenda :)
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Ashley Allison



JustEmily: I think you brought up a very cognizant point.  Through my education I have a tad of knowledge of Neurology, but for more layman reading I would recommend reading,"Phantoms In The Brain" by V.S. Ramachandran.  He was the one who actually invented the 'Mirror Therapy', and explains the theoretical rational behind this and other near-phenomena.  To put it simply, it is fascinating.  I feel it is a very rational idea to use this in GID therapy, or even to elucidate closer to the origins of GID. 

For example, imagine an fMRI study that compared a cis-gender Male/ Female control group to a group of GID individuals (FTM/ MTF) and they all undergo this visual/pseudo-tactile reflection of another gender.  As a quick side note, an fMRI shows where blood is going in the brain, and thus shows us what parts of the brain are active.  This could provide the medical community with data that could help us closer answer questions like: How do cis vs. trans individuals react differently to gender in-congruency? How long does it take to be in the correct gender for one to neuroplasticity to adapt (e.g. get rid of their dysphoria)? What is the physiologic neurology of dysphoria? What parts of the brains are augmented when a transgender individual is 'in' their correct gender? These are questions that could be answered that could improve treatment outcomes, and ultimately could lead to the development of new therapies. 

SuchisLife, thank you for posting this :) On a person note, I would really love to do this!!
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Mariax

I really, really want to see the results of this study. Actually, I want to be a part of it! Too late to sign up though, I guess...
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Anatta

Kia Ora,

When I first saw the clip, I thought about the thing I did as a child, where a friend and I would put the tips of our index fingers together(the friend presses theirs against mine) then we both had turns of feeling them by using our thumb and index fingers of the other hand-our thumb and index finger on either side rubbing both joined index fingers at the same time ...It's a weird feeling...not unlike what's happening in the clip...

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Shana-chan

This is cool but yup, the sadness that comes from while/after it's happening and also, the fact you can't feel what you're seeing through the other person's eyes. :( It's still cool though but hey, hopefully someday this etc. will get better. :)
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