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Started by Sarah_Faith, December 20, 2005, 09:16:52 AM

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Sarah_Faith

Everyone wants something different out of life, or do they? Why is happiness so important? Why is it, that no matter what we have, if happiness does not glue it all together, it means nothing?
I am writing this post, as I have spent the last year of my recovery pondering such questions. Some are obvious, but some may not be what you think at first.
People can be seriously injured, but if optomistic and relatively happy, can get through things no problem. All the same, if someone does not have the will to live, their body may just give up.
So what is happiness???
Is it ignorance of the negative things? We may be influenced by our emotions, but we are not dictated by them, so why can a 'feeling' make us think so much different?
Also, different things make different people happy; can we really be that different? Thoughts are a strange thing. Think of what you think of. Depending on your mood, you will think of different things. Why cant we think what way we please regardless of mood? We do afterall have free will, dont we? Maybe... Maybe we are not as free and unique as we like to thing. Our perception or random ideas and thoughts could just be ignorance of their workings. Where they come from and why.
Most people will agree that the most important thing in life is to be happy. But why is it that this is the 'glue' that pulls everything else together. Are we striving to be as happy as possible all the time? Is it an impossible goal? Is there an end to how happy one can feel? Or is happinesss a reward for dismissing any negative things?
I do realise that there are a LOT of questions there, but it is only a tiny little snippet of my thoughts for now. If the theme seems glum, it was not intended to be, if anything help people to realise what makes them happy and improve on it. Feel free to comment on anything I have said.

Love everyone,
Love everything,
Love yourself,
Sarah :D
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Dennis

I would describe myself as a happy person. I don't think anything "makes" me happy, I think that comes from within.

But things that help me be happy are:
walking the dog through the snow
cuddling my cat (when she's not using claws to insist on more patting)
being loved for who I am, not what I do
helping someone out of a tough spot
riding my motorcycle on a warm sunny day
a good bowl of soup
a funny joke
a kickass win in court

Dennis
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Northern Jane

Happiness is a choice. Sometimes it is easier than others.
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Valerie

Nice topic, Sarah Faith, good to get our gears turning and asking ourselves these things. 

Happiness comes from without...it is temporary, dictated by what does or doesn't happen in one's life.  You are happy if you get an unexpected check in the mail, sad if you lose a sentimental item, angry when you're mistreated, frustrated when the whole day falls apart on you and you can't find all the pieces....

Joy flows from within...it is present within you (if you allow it) while all the anger, sadness, frustration, happiness are taking their turns in the superficial realm.  Joy transcends the superficial.

Joy iis what allows you to see tomorrow in a grain of sand.  It is what gives you hope even as you dry your tears.  When you are happy, joy nags at you, telling you that deep within, you have a gift that is greater, more powerful, more constant, more fulfilling than the happiness you hold in your hand. 

XO,
Valerie

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Teri Anne

re:  Happiness
I'm not a Budhist but maybe it has something helpful for some of us....

The Dec. 2005 issue of National Geographic describes happiness via Budhism:  "Some people argue that Budha was right, that Budhism shouldn't be categorized as a religion but as a philosophy or form of psychology.  After all, unlike other religions, there is no supreme being and it encourages you to question - even challenge - authority.  It is non-dogmatic (distrust of authority); it relies on evidence you can test with your own senses; it suggests that you, not some external force, hold the answers to your own happiness.  It saw your mind as both the obstacle and the key to truly understanding yourself."

I don't know much about Budhism but it seems to not have the "holier than thou" attitude exhibited by some traditional religions.  In reading about it in National Geographic, some sayings came to mind:

"You're as happy as you want to be,"

"Happiness is freedom from want."
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stephanie_craxford

Quote"Happiness is freedom from want."

Oh no... I'm never going to be happy  :)

Seriously though happiness for me is being able to live my life day to day, content in doing some things for me and some things for others, and being satisfied that at the end of each day I am able to go to sleep with a clear mind and conscious.

Steph
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stephanie

I read that NG article too, and I've been studying Buddhism for quite a while now.  I've been trying to form my own conclusions about happiness - not sure how close I am yet, but I've experienced a few epiphanies in the search.

One of those epiphanies is this:

Happiness can come from others, but never taken from them (like respect).  Therefore in my own quest to find happiness, it becomes imperative that I help as many others find their own happiness along the way.  I have had several moments of enlightenment on this subject, and several times have been perfectly willing to do anything within my realm of capability to do, if it would truly make someone happy.

Ask yourself this: what would make you happy, and how can I help?  No matter what the response is, consider if it's something you are able to do (without sacrificing your own happiness, but that in itself is a meditation to ponder).  If the person needs fifty bucks to get something, then consider if you can spare the fifty dollars.  If they need a hug, consider if you're willing to give them a hug (there are almost no cases where you shouldn't be capable of giving one).  The point is, no matter what they say, consider if you can do it for them.  If it's something you're not capable of doing, then tell them that.  If you're not willing to do it, ask yourself why not, and really listen to the voice in your head - is it truly something you cannot do, or is it just something you don't want to do?  Consider what would happen if you did it anyway.

Of course there is a lot of trust that goes into that sort of thing.  If you really don't trust this person, then there is no law against turning them down.  But with friends, family, and close ones, there should be no reason not to trust them, and therefore no reason not to do something for them, if you are in fact capable of doing it.

Another thing to ask yourself:  Why is (whatever is making me unhappy) making me unhappy?  More often than not I realize that it is not something that is making me upset - it is my reaction to it that is causing the emotions.  I'll admit that I have a fair amount of road rage - people on the roads drive me crazy.  But when I get cut off or someone doesn't use their turn signal to change lanes ... I get upset.  Then I ask myself why is that making me upset?  I'm not being made late for work, I'm not in any danger, and their actions really haven't affected me - I'm just reacting in a negative way, and that's making me upset.  It's almost like I know it's supposed to make me upset so I let it.  The key is to un-learn that behavior.  We can't get upset at another person unless their actions remind us of something we don't like about ourselves.  I believe Ghandi said that in order to forgive others, we must first learn to forgive ourselves.

So when you think about why you're feeling upset, sometimes you'll realize you're upset for no real reason.  If the bills are keeping you up at night, just remind yourself that there's nothing to be upset about at that moment.  There's nothing you can do to change the situation while you're trying to sleep, so don't let it bother you until you get up.  There's a time and place for worrying about things, and it's not "all the time."  Take a deep breath, push your cares away and just relax.  It's easy when you realize that you have the power to relax at any given time.  Take ten seconds and forget about everything.  Waiting for ten seconds isn't going to make things any worse, after all.

And I'll stop there.
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Cassandra

Making other people happy makes me happy. I don't know why it just always has. So I get were your coming from especially in the first part of your post Stephanie.

Cassie
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Teri Anne

The discussion of making others happy reminds me of the kid in the movie "Pay It Forward" who does the unusual thing of ACTUALLY LISTENING to what others feel are their problems.  I seem to recall he brings a bum home, among other things.  And they, in turn, pass on good deeds.  It's not unlike religion is supposed to be.

A friend of mine once mocked people who do good deeds:  "Ahh, it's not altruism.  They're just doing it to make themselves happy."  I asked him what was wrong with that.

On another issue... I sometimes get unhappy or unsatisfied if work is boring or seemingly senseless.  Other times I get jealous of the work "higher ups" get to do.  When this happens I try to remember the scene in the film "Gandhi" where someone is surprised to find Gandhi doing a supposidly lowly task like cleaning.  Gandhi explains that every job has a purpose and no job is better than another job - the important thing is to do the job well.

Remembering that when I'm doing a dull job gets me thinking of the beauty in every job. 

Sometimes it even works!
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DawnL

Quote from: Northern Jane on December 20, 2005, 08:06:54 PM
Happiness is a choice. Sometimes it is easier than others.

On some levels yes, on others no.  Frame of mind has a lot to do with how we feel which is why cognitive therapy works so well for depression.  Cognitive therapy involves rewriting your internal dialogue to more positive thoughts.  Think you're bad or worthless?  You'll feel that way and happiness will be difficult.  Changing that dialogue is not as easy as it sounds and takes serious effort.  There is evidence that this process changes basic brain chemistry.  Anti-depressive medications do the same thing so many people skip the therapy and take the drugs and they do feel better.  Problem is, they haven't dealt with the issues that caused the depression in the first place.  Some people will argue it's just biochemistry, some will argue it's psychological and then it becomes a cart-horse question.  What came first, the bad thoughts or the imbalance in biochemistry?  I tend to believe the psychological issues are often first and doctors happily throw too many drugs at people because people are unwilling to do the work to feel better themselves.

I tried many times in my life to do the work and feel better and it sometimes worked...for awhile.  I was never truly happy and so it wasn't a choice for me then.  If it were, why bother transitioning?  I'll just choose to be happy pretending I'm a guy?  I don't think so.  Now that I've largely transitioned, I am generally much happier and have moments of profound spontaneoous happiness and contentment--feelings I never knew were possible before hrt and transition.

Dawn
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