When I go out in girl mode I do get gendered female...
but when I go out in androgynous mode I get gendered male :/


So the way I see it , 2 months into hrt , its something...
I think I look 50-50 lol

I'm going to be starting HRT next week, and this thread is definitely giving me a mood boost. Thank youuuu 

About six months.

By about two to two-and-a-half months dressed as a guy I started getting called she. It was shocking. By month three and a half, I was adjusting my belt and the police saw me, I live in a piss poor neighborhood, and thought I was stuffing drugs in my crotch, er, vagina. They stopped me and told me to give them the drugs they know and don't make it worse. I said go haead, search me. And they said you want to play it that way, huh. We're calling a female officer down here and they got on their walkie talkies. I was like what, I'll just show you.And they got all freaked out like hat are you doing and I said I got nothing in my balls I swear.

That really pissed them off and they were like, so you wanna be a crude little thing too. You're getting locked up today as soon as we find those drugs. Then I started crying and told them they had it all wrong that i didn't understand what they meant, that I'm a transsexual and I was only adjusting my clothes and coming from a thrift store. But my I did have a Sub on me, which is a drug like methadone for ex-opiate addicts, that i bought on the street. I snitched on the dealers which is a huge no-no. I don't care. I'm not going to jail. I'm a wimp. They only believed me after I showed my ID and even then they were iffy. I had to tell them a list of charges to verify that I knew who this person I claimed to be was. They thought I was a girl setting up this guy or something I guess, but they finally believed me cause I was cryig so much to not lock me up that I'll be raped. That the punishment wont fit the offense. They agreed.

They treated me with the utmost respect however. They asked me how I wanted to be referred to as: he or she. If I have a preferred name. All that. I was visibly still shaking cause of the prescription drug and the lead cop told me to calm down, relax, and have me a cigarette. wasn't even cuffed. He said, listen, we're checking you for warrants, as long as your okay, you are going to walk away, so calm down hun. They even let me keep the drugs. They said stay off the heroin and go see a doctor. You're getting ripped off by these scum bags and you don't look like you should be around here. Then, they let me go. True story. I call it female privilege, cause as a guy, I'm getting locked up.

After that, I started dressing full-time. But I was self-medding so my dose was whacked and I really wish I did it the right way. So don't be like me. I just couldn't wait anymore. I'm 30. So I am prolly the most hated poster on this board for my super duper long posts that no one prolly reads anymore. But that was actually a really good day. It was around three months, so I'd say at three months when you take in my body and my andro face, I looked way more female then male. After that, if I dressed as a man, I got made fun off. If I dressed as a woman, I got nothing or asked for my number.

Quote from: Joanna Dark on February 21, 2014, 12:00:24 AM
So I am prolly the most hated poster on this board for my super duper long posts that no one prolly reads anymore.

I read every word. Thank you for sharing your experience.

I really appreciate all of the replies to this thread!

I'm at three months as of today. Yay!

I'm nowhere near "looking more female than male," but I'm starting to get gender-hesitation and was included in (or at least not differentiated from) a "ladies" the other day. Progress, progress, progress!

I'm not on HRT yet, but it seems that the older I get, the more youthful and feminine I look, which doesn't really make much sense.

My masculine features were accentuated by my lack of hair and more body weight when I was 12. Now that I've grown my hair out enough to cover my eyebrows, it really feminized my face. Also, because I got taller, I did end up losing a lot of the weight. I'm still not at the weight I want to be that would be best for fat distribution when I start HRT, but I've started a diet+exercise program that I follow on weekdays during school and half-follow on weekends (light cardio without the machinery doesn't appeal to me when I'm home on the weekends, I'm not interested in joining a gym, and holy wow it's too cold out to walk around the neighborhood in these northern U.S. Winters). I'll probably start walking outside after dinner when Spring and Summer come around.

As for now, I'm currently on Winter break so I'm on a temporary hiatus from my diet+exercise plan. I've found that Coke Zero is a great substitute for other soft drinks in terms of dieting. It has as many calories as water.

I got so seriously off topic here haha. Point is, the things that have changed about me over time have somehow made me look more youthful and feminine even though I'm getting older. Note my avatar.

I dressed as a woman full-time and changed my legal name prior to HRT, so I guess self-perception wise it was fast, happening over 4 or 5 months.

All my life people have mistaken me for a girl / woman when I wore women's clothes and makeup. It was a problem as a boy but made it easier to transition. Now I don't wear makeup at all 90-something percent of the time and haven't gotten sir'd in years.

  I can defiantly see after five months that I look more feminine. I don't know if I pass well or not. I think I look good in the mirror straight on. Only to be disappointed when I look at my profile with a second mirror. I am hoping a few more months and I will see enough of a change. I think it would help if I had more confidence in public.

  I will also add. I think it's odd that I pass better with my wig, but have more confidence when I am not wearing it. I don't feel I pass well without it. I wish my real hair looked as good as my wig. 

My experience is probably going to be different than a lot of people's, because I didn't start growing my hair out until I actually started HRT, and it's been taking FOREVER to grow, so I've been a bit behind schedule since the very beginning. But here it is nonetheless:

With wig:
-got my first "she" about 5 months in.
-started passing to most people, thus basically having reached that crossover point that you spoke of, about 8 months in.
-pretty much passed to everyone, including many "you know you pass when" worthy moments, 10-11 months in.

Without wig:
-got my first "she" after 11.5 months. (About the time that my current avatar picture was taken.)
-started being gendered female in androgynous clothes pretty frequently, thus hitting that "crossover" point, at about 12.5 months.
-had my first official "male fail" at 13 months.
-currently at 13.5 months, in the stage where I'm passing most of the time, but still not to everyone. (I'm not full-time yet.)

Quote-got my first "she" after 11.5 months. (About the time that my current avatar picture was taken.)

You look wonderful. I cant see how your not fulltime Carrie. I consider myself fulltime but I don't feel like I pass fully yet.

After the 3 months mark my face started to change a lot...my chin and jawline got a completely different shape and my cheeks got a bit fuller. Now, after almost 5 months my face still can't pass (at least without make-up or longer hair), but my body is getting there much sooner than my face.

Today I was having a shower and I couldn't believe how feminine my body was looking. I am with women porportions already, but I the proportions of a chubby girl (I need to lose more weight although I am with a BMI of 23). If I was wearing woman's clothes then I think my body could pass already (at least until someone comes closer and talk to me  )

Quote from: Joanna Dark on February 21, 2014, 12:00:24 AM
By about two to two-and-a-half months dressed as a guy I started getting called she. It was shocking. By month three and a half, I was adjusting my belt and the police saw me, I live in a piss poor neighborhood, and thought I was stuffing drugs in my crotch, er, vagina. They stopped me and told me to give them the drugs they know and don't make it worse. I said go haead, search me. And they said you want to play it that way, huh. We're calling a female officer down here and they got on their walkie talkies. I was like what, I'll just show you.And they got all freaked out like hat are you doing and I said I got nothing in my balls I swear.

That really pissed them off and they were like, so you wanna be a crude little thing too. You're getting locked up today as soon as we find those drugs. Then I started crying and told them they had it all wrong that i didn't understand what they meant, that I'm a transsexual and I was only adjusting my clothes and coming from a thrift store. But my I did have a Sub on me, which is a drug like methadone for ex-opiate addicts, that i bought on the street. I snitched on the dealers which is a huge no-no. I don't care. I'm not going to jail. I'm a wimp. They only believed me after I showed my ID and even then they were iffy. I had to tell them a list of charges to verify that I knew who this person I claimed to be was. They thought I was a girl setting up this guy or something I guess, but they finally believed me cause I was cryig so much to not lock me up that I'll be raped. That the punishment wont fit the offense. They agreed.

They treated me with the utmost respect however. They asked me how I wanted to be referred to as: he or she. If I have a preferred name. All that. I was visibly still shaking cause of the prescription drug and the lead cop told me to calm down, relax, and have me a cigarette. wasn't even cuffed. He said, listen, we're checking you for warrants, as long as your okay, you are going to walk away, so calm down hun. They even let me keep the drugs. They said stay off the heroin and go see a doctor. You're getting ripped off by these scum bags and you don't look like you should be around here. Then, they let me go. True story. I call it female privilege, cause as a guy, I'm getting locked up.

After that, I started dressing full-time. But I was self-medding so my dose was whacked and I really wish I did it the right way. So don't be like me. I just couldn't wait anymore. I'm 30. So I am prolly the most hated poster on this board for my super duper long posts that no one prolly reads anymore. But that was actually a really good day. It was around three months, so I'd say at three months when you take in my body and my andro face, I looked way more female then male. After that, if I dressed as a man, I got made fun off. If I dressed as a woman, I got nothing or asked for my number.

dear Joanna I always love your posts you bring a very unique perspective to the discussion

Mirror image dismorphia sucks....I still see "him" in the mirror.

I should probably add, as far as the makeup aspect of the discussion - I was wearing it for about the first year, but lost patience. One of my goals was to get to the point where I could roll out of bed, brush my hair, put on jeans and a man's flannel shirt over a T-shirt (hey, it's freezing in New England right now!) and no makeup, and still be fine.

I think that took about a year, but I'm delighted that it happened. I have gone for hikes in that outfit plus a baseball cap with my hair tucked up and still never had a problem with being taken for male. That's really all I ask.

I'm a little over 2 month on HRT. (My current pict as of this post is over a month old, so I need to update it.) According to my wife, in the last week I've passed the threshold of looking more feminine than masculine without any makeup. Looking in the mirror, most of time now I see it, but sometimes I don't. One of my clients yesterday also mentioned it and I was in androgynous mode. I'm still not comfortable to use the women's room, but I'm also not comfortable using the men's anymore. Fortunately I've been mostly at places where a gender neutral restroom is available. Many restaurants in NYC will have several single room restroom with WC (like in Europe) on them and they are gender neutral.

It's hard for me to say, since my wardrobe/clothing style took a while to develop.  I feel like this kind of held me back a little.  But definitely just before I came out at work (around 9 months), one of our programmers pulled a few of us aside to show how much some girl in one of our demo videos looked like me.

Which was pretty funny...because the only other people he pulled over, I had already told I was transitioning.

Quote from: Sydney_NYC on February 22, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
I'm a little over 2 month on HRT. (My current pict as of this post is over a month old, so I need to update it.) According to my wife, in the last week I've passed the threshold of looking more feminine than masculine without any makeup.

Yeah, honestly your face looks super-neutral (and beautiful!) to me, a face that I wouldn't think of as male if you were presenting as female even in that picture of you. And we live in the same city!

While I am older and have been on low dose hrt for the last 12 months my face has changed slowly but surely.  For those that don't know that I am TG they typically comment that I am looking younger and younger (which is a good thing) , my skin is softer and with the laser/electro I am now looking more androgyne.  As I still present male I suspect that nobody would call my face feminine but it is changing, and definitely for the better.

Literally yesterday! Last night!
I was a bit upset about a few things I'd seen and read in the media and offloaded at my webcam and I stopped and thought wow, I don't look like a teary, upset, angry guy, I actually look more like a teary, upset, angry woman!
I'm kinda surprised that people at my work haven't male-failed me yet, it will happen one day I think, but they all think I'm just gay so maybe won't be so obvious.
Wait until my hair is long enough that I need to start putting it back and we'll see then