Has anyone started hormones and felt an increased sense of rage or impatience or are easily annoyed? For the last few days i've been feeling significantly angrier... confrontational and rage filled... I also feel like my patience level has been reduced and i get annoyed much easier... is this normal? I mean i've heard that its relatively normal with FtMs.... but im MtF and this worries me... I've been reacting with anger to things that would have normally made me cry or get sad or depressed.... some would argue that its better to be mad about something than to be depressed... but seeing as being filled with rage or being easily annoyed don't seem like common emotional changes, it really kinda freaks me out...

Anyone else experienced this?

Yes. I had one day where I felt like that. It went away quickly, but it was surprising while it lasted.

I am afraid, at least for me, that this is becoming a permanent part of my new self 

Since I started HRT I can feel I am extremely volatile. Emotions are closer to my skin. I've been having arguments with my mother for silly things...like when I am trying to explain something and she doesn't understand... I don't know why, but I start acting like an idiot!

I am also getting angry easily. This is a counterpoint to the calmness that HRT gave me. Suddenly some silly thing press that button and then I start yelling and being rude.

I am actively trying to control myself now...and not just my impatience raised, but also I am crying much easier...virtually everything brings me tears to my eyes!

I don't know if this is a part of being a woman or if this is some strange unwanted effect of HRT.

How long have you been on HRT? I've had this kind of thing in the beginning as an ftm. But I also had it during puberty. And women tend to have mood swings during the month. I suspect it's just hormone shifts that do it, rather than the hormone itself. Your body is trying to adapt.

Quote from: Natalia on February 25, 2014, 11:53:07 AM
I am afraid, at least for me, that this is becoming a permanent part of my new self 

Since I started HRT I can feel I am extremely volatile. Emotions are closer to my skin. I've been having arguments with my mother for silly things...like when I am trying to explain something and she doesn't understand... I don't know why, but I start acting like an idiot!

I am also getting angry easily. This is a counterpoint to the calmness that HRT gave me. Suddenly some silly thing press that button and then I start yelling and being rude.

I am actively trying to control myself now...and not just my impatience raised, but also I am crying much easier...virtually everything brings me tears to my eyes!

I don't know if this is a part of being a woman or if this is some strange unwanted effect of HRT.

I'm curious: What are you taking? (Without disclosing the actual dosages,of course). The reason I ask is that some drugs have weird side effects that affect some but not others. When I was on Finasteride, I had a huge problem with severe depression and constant suicidal thoughts.

Never any anger issues, though.

Quote from: FA on February 25, 2014, 11:58:55 AM
How long have you been on HRT? I've had this kind of thing in the beginning as an ftm. But I also had it during puberty. And women tend to have mood swings during the month. I suspect it's just hormone shifts that do it, rather than the hormone itself. Your body is trying to adapt.

Its been 8 days today. I hope its a beginning thing..., that would at least signify that the hormones are working, and would be significantly better than it being a new "trait". I've been actively trying my entire life to get RID of my anger after all.

Progesterone does that to me but I have only experienced crying on estrogen.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on February 25, 2014, 12:02:37 PM
I'm curious: What are you taking? (Without disclosing the actual dosages,of course). The reason I ask is that some drugs have weird side effects that affect some but not others. When I was on Finasteride, I had a huge problem with severe depression and constant suicidal thoughts.

Never any anger issues, though.

I am taking finasteride, estrogen + progesterone and spironolactone. Finasteride is working fine for me...I mean, I was always a bit depressive, but that didn't change. Spiro is giving me dizziness when I stand up after being sitted or layed down for a long time, but my BP is normal. Besides that I don't remember having any other issues.

Before hrt I was the type to hold everything in. Making it seem like I was never upset or at least like I would only randomly blow up. Now I can't seem to hold it in at all. Whatever emotion I am feeling is being expressed. I feels like I am quick to be annoyed, mad, happy or whatever but I just am less able to hold it in. I can't appear to be even which is how people were used to seeing including myself. Not sure if my experience is similar to yours or will help but other perspectives can't hurt.

Quote from: Natalia on February 25, 2014, 12:13:30 PM
I am taking finasteride, estrogen + progesterone and spironolactone. Finasteride is working fine for me...I mean, I was always a bit depressive, but that didn't change. Spiro is giving me dizziness when I stand up after being sitted or layed down for a long time, but my BP is normal. Besides that I don't remember having any other issues.

Okay.

I never had any dizziness issue when I was on Spiro. I just lived in the bathroom is all. I had depressive issues before I was on Finasteride, but it took the smoldering flames of depression and turned it into a raging forest fire by comparison. I never took Progesterone so I wouldn't know about that. E never gave me any issues at all.

Quote from: Eva Marie on February 25, 2014, 12:07:32 PM
Progesterone does that to me but I have only experienced crying on estrogen.

could the fact that im on medroxyprogesterone make a difference in my mood?

Quote from: LittleEmily24 on February 25, 2014, 11:28:29 AM
Has anyone started hormones and felt an increased sense of rage or impatience or are easily annoyed? For the last few days i've been feeling significantly angrier... confrontational and rage filled... I also feel like my patience level has been reduced and i get annoyed much easier... is this normal? I mean i've heard that its relatively normal with FtMs.... but im MtF and this worries me... I've been reacting with anger to things that would have normally made me cry or get sad or depressed.... some would argue that its better to be mad about something than to be depressed... but seeing as being filled with rage or being easily annoyed don't seem like common emotional changes, it really kinda freaks me out...

Anyone else experienced this?

This is sometimes seen in women taking medroxyprogesterone acetate. If you are, stop it immediately.

Quote from: Natalia on February 25, 2014, 11:53:07 AMI don't know if this is a part of being a woman or if this is some strange unwanted effect of HRT.

Either, it's purely psychological, nothing to do with hormones but all to do with what you're going through, inner issues, your transition, the changes in life, etc. OR something to do with hormones. Medroxyprogesterone acetate (Provera) can make someone irritated, angry, aggressive, anxious, depressed, etc. Not enough E, too much E. Perhaps taking bio-identical progesterone (especially orally) could help, as it tends to calm your nerves.

Women get moody due, in part, to cycles. We don't have cycles and don't need them. 

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on February 25, 2014, 12:02:37 PM
When I was on Finasteride, I had a huge problem with severe depression and constant suicidal thoughts. Never any anger issues, though.

Yes! Finasteride/dutasteride can do that too as it inhibits alpha reductase, an enzyme responsible in the process of producing allopregnanolone, a neurotransmitter that is anxiolytic and anti-depressive.

Quote from: Eva Marie on February 25, 2014, 12:07:32 PM
Progesterone does that to me but I have only experienced crying on estrogen.

Bio-identical progesterone or some other progestogen? Sometimes, they can oppose estrogen too strongly and if estrogen wasn't too high to begin with, then the lack of E or sudden onset of less E can do that. 

Quote from: LittleEmily24 on February 25, 2014, 01:57:30 PM
could the fact that im on medroxyprogesterone make a difference in my mood?

YES! It is a well known fact that this progestin can negatively alter mood in some people. This is why I often advise against using it. Bio-identical progesterone is, by far, much better for mood.  

Those people who merge onto the highway at 40mph when the speed limit is 70mph need to die. They needed to die before E, and they need to just as much after E. So, if nothing else my anger hasn't abated at all, but I always cried at the drop of a hat at movies, etc and E has made it a bit worse. I cannot say it has done much at all for my anger, but I am not a terribly angry person.

Quote from: Hikari on February 25, 2014, 02:38:24 PM
Those people who merge onto the highway at 40mph when the speed limit is 70mph need to die. They needed to die before E, and they need to just as much after E. So, if nothing else my anger hasn't abated at all, but I always cried at the drop of a hat at movies, etc and E has made it a bit worse. I cannot say it has done much at all for my anger, but I am not a terribly angry person.

I'm not absolutely seething with anger like I was when I was younger, but I still have no problem expressing hatred towards someone if they make me angry. I can have quite the acid tongue at times which seems to worry some people. But the way I see it, if I didn't have that verbal outlet as a "release valve", things would probably end up going down a very bad road for me. I can be very easy-going most of the time, but if someones sets me off, I tend to freak out.

Quote from: KayXo on February 25, 2014, 02:13:24 PM
Bio-identical progesterone or some other progestogen? Sometimes, they can oppose estrogen too strongly and if estrogen wasn't too high to begin with, then the lack of E or sudden onset of less E can do that.

The generic form of prometrium so bio-identical. I cycle it for 10 days each month as instructed by my endo. I call progesterone my crazy pills lol... The first month I took them I found myself weaving in and out of slow traffic cursing a blue streak. When I thought about what I was doing and why I was doing that I just had to laugh - it was day 4 of my 10 day cycle of P.

Sounds like a reaction that the body has when it tries to come to terms with unexpected hormone changes. It would be entirely logical to assume this, as many menopausal women  claim to get irritated easily, etc, and of course... most people with kids know the horrors of puberty! Their little 'uns turning into moody, angsty hooligans :p

When I was a kid I used to be very emotional. Now I get angry all the time, tiniest things set me off. I still feel very emotional, but there's a layer of constant bubbling anger that tempers the emotional side. I do wonder what E might do to me in that respect, as I wouldn't want to be unstable or become incapable of repressing my fear, sadness or anger at all.