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Started by EzraNightshade, February 15, 2014, 08:43:58 AM

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EzraNightshade

So when I figured out I had apparently two separate gender identity's, I kind of went through a phase of being dominated by one or the other. when I was "male" it tended to consume me whole until I switched and became female which then in turn consumed me wholly... I am working on finding a little more balance with some success and I do spend a fare amount of time in between.
please don't get me wrong, I enjoy the trips from one to the other.. I am not interested in "unifying" my "gender" Identity..
but I would like to make to the transition.. less jarring and have a little more control of when and how far..as it is now I feel a little like a passenger, and there are times when it would be helpful to call up my "male" or "female" on command.. I am certain you can imagine, and NO there not all dirty..*grin* but there is that.

any Ideas?
questions?
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brianna1016

Quote from: EzraNightshade on February 15, 2014, 08:43:58 AM
So when I figured out I had apparently two separate gender identity's, I kind of went through a phase of being dominated by one or the other. when I was "male" it tended to consume me whole until I switched and became female which then in turn consumed me wholly... I am working on finding a little more balance with some success and I do spend a fare amount of time in between.
please don't get me wrong, I enjoy the trips from one to the other.. I am not interested in "unifying" my "gender" Identity..
but I would like to make to the transition.. less jarring and have a little more control of when and how far..as it is now I feel a little like a passenger, and there are times when it would be helpful to call up my "male" or "female" on command.. I am certain you can imagine, and NO there not all dirty..*grin* but there is that.

any Ideas?
questions?
I've never been able to call them up on command.. its something that I have no control over and its embarrassing sometimes when the alpha decides to take over. Im learning how to let that happen.
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suzifrommd

Have you thought of keeping a journal of triggers? I.e. what was happening right before you made the switch? I've been noticing there are certain situations that nudge me into male feelings and certain ones that nudge me into female feelings.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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Pica Pica

I tend to ride the tides but they are gradual sways rather then the sudden shifts you are experiencing. Maybe things will calm down as you adjust to these new elements of you.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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sanderlay

Quote from: EzraNightshade on February 15, 2014, 08:43:58 AM
"... I am working on finding a little more balance with some success and I do spend a fare amount of time in between."

What has helped me with this feeling is allowing my masculine and feminine sides to express themselves.  Having a male body already it's usually my feminine side that feels most neglected.  But I have felt the reverse at times, which is why transitioning to female might not be a good idea for me.  I'm never in boy or girl mode but always a mixture of the two.  The clothing gives me the balance I need, especially a skirt, to feel myself.
I strive to have a smile, be happy and be myself.
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Satinjoy

I question at times why my male side is so dominant and so comfortable in social scenarios.  I think its mostly learned behavior.  I am just learning now that I have a female core that is always on, was always there, but was so repressed.... and that's ok.

But it is interesting how female I get when I can let my hair down.  Like .. right now...  :)

I have been trying to figure out if I am andro as opposed to TS.  I am pretty sure I am TS, but I get this dual identity thing too.  I identify or have commonalities I think with both, the andro folk that post on mtf posts, and the TS's too.

Learning, learning.... wonderful to stop repressing and explore feelings....   after all these years.....  :) :)  :)
Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the red pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the little blue pills - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes

Sh'e took the little blue ones.
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ativan

Generally the thought process is he and she, which is myself.
An example would be a decision process, they both have their views or ideas, I think them at the same time.
Usually one of those thoughts will win out. Most of the time, they are very agreeable and think along the same lines.
Sometimes there's an internal battle, but usually doesn't last very long.
Those can take from a split second to however long it takes to resolve the conflicting thoughts.
It's just thinking from two different viewpoints. What they see, can be the same thing.
And in general, that is how decisions work.
There can be two different feelings about the same thing.
This is different than thinking. It's enjoyable to be able to feel two distinct feelings for the same thing.
This is where one side can be more dominant than the other.
But that's not much different than being pissed off or happy.
Not that one side is more of that than the other. Either side can feel the full range of things, emotion.
How that enters into decisions, depends on what the decision needs to be.
I can identify them as pretty much feminine and masculine, but not the classic stereotype.
I don't see this as much different than how people can have a good side and bad side, and have those thoughts simultaneously.
One side generally wins out. People live with these thought processes all their lives. They are always there.
To me, how strange and dimensionless it must be to not be able to recognize the other side of your gender, to deny the thoughts.
I think cis people hang on to this way of thinking, deny what they fear, which is the hate that comes from that very fear.
Even transsexuals who are adamant about their gender recognize there is another side. But at times they are forced into that cis thinking.
If they want to be accepted, they have to play that game along with the cis people in their lives.
But for those of us who recognize this as not a duality, but a way of thinking or understanding, that there can be two distinct views,
we embrace this as being non-binary in the ways we are comfortable with.
There is a very blurred line between being binary and non-binary. Some of us move through that blurred place.
But for those that don't, those who recognize that they are thinking in two different genders, non-binary is normal.
My gender just happens to have two sides to it. It doesn't matter that much which side is doing what, because ultimately, it is just me, myself.
The thought processes are different from what I understand, which is hard to understand how only one gender thinks.
So what each part my two sided gender plays in my thinking really doesn't matter. I still figure things out and move on.
I could say one is like this and the other is like that, but it all comes down to, that's just self, me.
What the situation calls for, they have their opinions, it blends immediately and that's the reaction to the situation.
But like I said, sometimes there's a conflict. But I don't think it is all that much different than deciding whether to be bad or good.
And we make those kinds of decisions all day long, day after day. My gender has more than one way of deciding things.
I used to try and decide which side was what, but they can switch hit. They might have the reverse of what I would have labeled them as.
So I don't. I quit bothering with trying to define just what those two sides are.
I'm much happier doing that. I'm more comfortable with myself.
It took a long time to eventually come to this conclusion, and it resulted in a lot of events in my life that are both good and bad.
If I wanted to describe them as two voices in my head (they most certainly are not), it isn't that difficult to follow the conversation.
I guess some people have only one gender, I can't really conceive of how a person would think, it seems dimensionless, like I said.
But I suppose they would think that having two sides to my gender and that's how I think, would be confusing.
It's not. I'm just more opinionated to myself. When I talk to people, that's what they hear... me, self.
A conclusion to the question asked, a decision on how to deal with a situation.
I just have two sides to my gender.
Ativan
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Satinjoy

This is fascinating.  It also confirms that it is not me. It added some clarity.

I think its really cool though.

Thanks for that...
Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the red pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the little blue pills - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes

Sh'e took the little blue ones.
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brianna1016

This is all refreshing to hear. I've considered myself 80% female and 20% male for a long time. I've been transitioning for a year on hrt and I thought the 20% male part of myself would be gone by now. I thought it was just an artificial shell that I created to cope with being stuck in a male body.
Well I was wrong. The male part of me is still there. I tried to ignore it but it just pushes its way to the surface. Sometimes it feels like a huge rush of aggression and power.
Other times it feels like cold unemotional logic with amazing powers of concentration and focus.
The cool part about all of this is I get to have my cake and eat it too.
My body needs to be female because she is the 80%. She's always been there and that's usually what comes through and how I present myself is female and my mannerisms are female etc.
So now that my body is changing and the dysphoria is gone, I feel like the male part of me isn't such a threat anymore. I actually need him to be complete. He doesn't really come through that much, maybe 3 or 4 days out of the month. But he does come through without fail.
I'm becoming OK with this. My gender identity is a bit more fluid than I thought. The two sides of me can work together. 
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ativan

Just like everything else that has evolved, so does our gender.
It takes the best and leaves the rest.
It is evolving from a single sided organism into a multi-dimensional one.
We aren't the first, but we are the proof that it is and has been growing.
It only has to blossom into the next generation of evolution, of our gender.
Learn to use the different frames of reference, the different opinions we have in ourselves.
Learn to use them freely, that's what they are there for.
We're not single sided genders any longer.
We have evolved into something that is greater than the sum of its parts.
We are non-binary.

It's a constantly changing world.
We are the next change, the evolution of gender.
Be grateful you can recognize it.
You have evolved and are still evolving, embrace it.
You are meant to be.
Ativan
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brianna1016

Quote from: Ativan Prescribed on March 02, 2014, 09:33:11 AM
Just like everything else that has evolved, so does our gender.
It takes the best and leaves the rest.
It is evolving from a single sided organism into a multi-dimensional one.
We aren't the first, but we are the proof that it is and has been growing.
It only has to blossom into the next generation of evolution, of our gender.
Learn to use the different frames of reference, the different opinions we have in ourselves.
Learn to use them freely, that's what they are there for.
We're not single sided genders any longer.
We have evolved into something that is greater than the sum of its parts.
We are non-binary.

It's a constantly changing world.
We are the next change, the evolution of gender.
Be grateful you can recognize it.
You have evolved and are still evolving, embrace it.
You are meant to be.
Ativan
Your words are inspiring and the message is so empowering. Thank you Ativan. I will take that energy and project it further. :)
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brianna1016

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on February 28, 2014, 02:33:02 AM
That surge of pure masculine energy rushing through my body is almost physically enjoyable and sometimes sends shivers down the spine.
Exactly. It's a source of inspiration and motivation, both of which are priceless.
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