About the only negative thing of being a women is aging. Women show there age more than men.....or I should say they don't get admired for looking older... sigh....

On the other hand if you have the money you can get all the plastic surgery to keep you looking young...or should I say looking different??

Just seen Goldie Hawn and Beth Midler on the Oscars....even though they look great for their age....you can definitely tell they had some modifications....I can't blame them!! It sucks to look old!!

I guess I'm lucky to be just an ordinary old lady....with no money! I do wish though I could afford some of those plasteeek surgery booobs

I was talking to an older woman after church today about her boyfriend and she started telling me all sorts of stuff, including her age.  She's ten years older than me (I'm 62) and I thought she looked fantastic.  I guess it's all in how well we take care of ourselves, genetics, and in knowing how to look decent without going overboard.  I'm kind of happy with the way I am right now.  I don't need much makeup, and look just slightly older than I really am.  And it's kind of funny how all of a sudden older women have begun to sit and talk to me about woman stuff.  Oh yeah health issues and gossip ... lots of it.

You see, there are some good things about being older. 

I know many old women. Not one of them is unhappy about being old (though they would all prefer they not be visited by those ailments that leave young people alone). My theory is that in their 70+ years of life, they've picked up the secrets to self-acceptance and appreciation for what's beautiful about the world.

One of the most graceful women I know that visits a monthly LGBT meeting in my area is timeless, not old. Lord only knows when she transitioned(20 years ago? 50? No one can tell.)

One does have some control over how they age.

I also consider some publicly TS women like L Conway, or A James. They are good examples of taking care of yourself. It can have benefits.

Quote from: Missy~rmdlm on March 03, 2014, 11:29:00 AM
One of the most graceful women I know that visits a monthly LGBT meeting in my area is timeless, not old. Lord only knows when she transitioned(20 years ago? 50? No one can tell.)

One does have some control over how they age.

I also consider some publicly TS women like L Conway, or A James. They are good examples of taking care of yourself. It can have benefits.

thanks for the info

I agree.  I do think it is more about how society looks at aging women vs. men.  Not fair.   I look younger than any of my younger siblings though.   I think changing hormonal mix  at the age I did had something to do with that?   Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?

My 72 year old mother looks fantastic without surgery.  She says it is all about moisturizing!  I think she is conscious of the sun, too.

For what it is worth, my mother swears by this skincare line:  http://www.dhccare.com/DHC/Default.aspx  She has been using it for the last 8 years.

Expensive, though!  Well, to me, anyway.

ETA:  I hope it is ok to stepped into your forum to share this.  Thought it might be helpful.

Quote from: Jen on March 03, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
I agree.  I do think it is more about how society looks at aging women vs. men.  Not fair.   I look younger than any of my younger siblings though.   I think changing hormonal mix  at the age I did had something to do with that?   Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?

I just looked at a picture that I took before HRT and theirs quite a big age gap going on

I don't care about the aging process. You can't stop it so, why worry about it? I would much rather be aging instead of dying an early death.

Quote from: Jen on March 03, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
I agree.  I do think it is more about how society looks at aging women vs. men.  Not fair.   I look younger than any of my younger siblings though.   I think changing hormonal mix  at the age I did had something to do with that?   Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?

Yes, people look at me when I mention that I'm going on 71 and they are floored. I think that many years before I ever began transitioning and threw out the after shave skin bracers and all that skin drying stuff and began using women's facial products and moisturizers that it has helped considerably, and I do believe that the hormonal swap along with genetics all comes into play.

Skin care routine, sun, smoking, alcohol, diet and exercise have a great influence over ageing, inside and out. You do have a little control over how genetics plays out. That said, HRT has had a strange effect on me over the last 20 years. Maybe it's to do with high oestrogen levels? But I haven't changed much in those years.

Quote from: Jen on March 03, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
I agree.  I do think it is more about how society looks at aging women vs. men.  Not fair.   I look younger than any of my younger siblings though.   I think changing hormonal mix  at the age I did had something to do with that?   Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?

I would like to believe I did! I know when I was in the in-between stage of my transition...those who knew of my born gender often were shocked to hear how old I was...in fact I was once mistaken for a twenty something young man...well the man thing came after I had to tell them my legal gender at the time.

Since my transition aging has become more of a thing I am regretting...at least the appearance of my age,  that is!! Now that I have assimilated into society as the female gender, I have had some men guess my age fairly close UGH!! In fact one rude guy thought I was even older than my age....

One reason I have quit smoking and have a strict skin care regiment including using sun screen everyday, is because of the vanity associated with appearing younger than my age...at least I'm honest

Maybe my current age shows (25) but aging is a very hard thing for me to deal with.  I really get upset when I consider all the things that I've missed out on already in life.  The idea that I can never really have or experience a female childhood is a difficult thing for me.  It's something that will always be out of reach. Beauty fades and I understand that's not something that will exist forever, but it would also be nice for me to feel beautiful for once in my life after so many years of dysphoria with my body. That being said, there are gorgeous older women out there, so it's not like aging should mean someone is losing their looks.  Hell, there are many women that are older than me that I remain incredibly jealous of.  So, I don't think the looks aspect is really that big of a deal.  For me, it's more about the youthful life that I can never have.  I'm 25 and yet I really haven't lived the life I wanted. Sadly, I'm an adult woman and no longer have a chance to experience what it means to be a young lady.  Yes, I've lived it in my heart, but I will never get to experience all that comes with it.  That's the real downside to the aging process.

Quote from: Just Shelly on March 03, 2014, 05:00:10 PM
I would like to believe I did! I know when I was in the in-between stage of my transition...those who knew of my born gender often were shocked to hear how old I was...in fact I was once mistaken for a twenty something young man...well the man thing came after I had to tell them my legal gender at the time.

Since my transition aging has become more of a thing I am regretting...at least the appearance of my age,  that is!! Now that I have assimilated into society as the female gender, I have had some men guess my age fairly close UGH!! In fact one rude guy thought I was even older than my age....

One reason I have quit smoking and have a strict skin care regiment including using sun screen everyday, is because of the vanity associated with appearing younger than my age...at least I'm honest

Oh, I have peeps guess close a lot too, esp on bad days lol.  But usually when they get it wrong it is on the younger side, sometimes way off.  But I think it is because I am old enough to have wrinkles but don't really.  Which I give not being happy/smiling for a couple decades a lot of credit for.  Not worth it!

Quote from: learningtolive on March 03, 2014, 06:53:21 PM
Maybe my current age shows (25) but aging is a very hard thing for me to deal with.  I really get upset when I consider all the things that I've missed out on already in life.  The idea that I can never really have or experience a female childhood is a difficult thing for me.  It's something that will always be out of reach. Beauty fades and I understand that's not something that will exist forever, but it would also be nice for me to feel beautiful for once in my life after so many years of dysphoria with my body. That being said, there are gorgeous older women out there, so it's not like aging should mean someone is losing their looks.  Hell, there are many women that are older than me that I remain incredibly jealous of.  So, I don't think the looks aspect is really that big of a deal.  For me, it's more about the youthful life that I can never have.  I'm 25 and yet I really haven't lived the life I wanted. Sadly, I'm an adult woman and no longer have a chance to experience what it means to be a young lady.  Yes, I've lived it in my heart, but I will never get to experience all that comes with it.  That's the real downside to the aging process.

Oh don't even go there!!

I think I regret my age more because of what I missed than for the matter of just getting old.....even now I feel like time is running out before I can have GRS. I would like the ability to date with the correct anatomical equipment before I get too old. Especially now since I see men entirely different then before!!

I do think back to when I was 25 often...I was very close to starting my transition then. I don't look back as much in regret, mostly because I had the ability to have 3 wonderful children that completed me even more.....but I wonder who I would of been if I did transition then.

People think I am at my 20s, even teens when just looking at my body shape, but when they see my face closely, it disappoints them. For body, we need exercise. For face, we need money, IMHO.

About two months ago, I got fillers to decrease wrinkles. Those wrinkle fillers did not work well for me.

And, I got the first of 3 sessions of fractional laser resurfacing treatment a few weeks ago. It is still ongoing, and I am not sure of the effectiveness.

Yesterday I ordered the following REDEFINE Regimen creams:

https://www.rodanandfields.com/shop/redefine

I hope it will work for me.

And the total cost during the last 2 months is not so much expensive: ca. US$ 2,000.
During the last 2  months, I wrote and published a scientific paper for a company here, and they gave me ca. US$ 4,000. I can invest more!

barbie~~

Quote from: Just Shelly on March 02, 2014, 10:12:48 PM. Women show there age more than men.....or I should say they don't get admired for looking older... sigh....

Balding, beergut, pot bellied men don't get admired too...especially when they're looking middle aged before their time, say, early 30's...

The kind of 'admired' older men you're talking about is very, very rare, someone like George Clooney or Brad Pitt.

Quote from: Jen on March 03, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
I look younger than any of my younger siblings though.   I think changing hormonal mix  at the age I did had something to do with that?   Has anybody else noticed that happening with them?

Yes! I now look way younger than my actual age. I occasionally see pictures of the guys I went to high school with on Facebook and they all look like broken down old men now. I guess that's my revenge since I took so much abuse from them back then 

As a woman I also spend a lot of time now taking care of my skin and body.

Quote from: barbie on March 04, 2014, 01:07:35 AM
People think I am at my 20s, even teens when just looking at my body shape, but when they see my face closely, it disappoints them. For body, we need exercise. For face, we need money, IMHO.

About two months ago, I got fillers to decrease wrinkles. Those wrinkle fillers did not work well for me.

And, I got the first of 3 sessions of fractional laser resurfacing treatment a few weeks ago. It is still ongoing, and I am not sure of the effectiveness.

Yesterday I ordered the following REDEFINE Regimen creams:

https://www.rodanandfields.com/shop/redefine

I hope it will work for me.

And the total cost during the last 2 months is not so much expensive: ca. US$ 2,000.
During the last 2  months, I wrote and published a scientific paper for a company here, and they gave me ca. US$ 4,000. I can invest more!

barbie~~

Try synapause, a hormone topical creme, used for vaginal dryness etc...as a nightcream, works wonders on your skin.
It won't end up in your bloodstream because it has a low retention.

And steer clear from fillers for known reasons and from  lasers too... just google 'laserdamage'

Quote from: Dahlia on March 04, 2014, 06:32:23 AM

Quote from: Just Shelly on March 02, 2014, 10:12:48 PM. Women show there age more than men.....or I should say they don't get admired for looking older... sigh....

Balding, beergut, pot bellied men don't get admired too...especially when they're looking middle aged before their time, say, early 30's...

The kind of 'admired' older men you're talking about is very, very rare, someone like George Clooney or Brad Pitt.

True, but the difference is the importance placed on women's looks. For a guy to be considered good looking, is just sort of the icing on the cake while for a woman the actual cake is her looks and any other qualities are treated like the icing. (From a societal point of view, anyway. I know most people don't feel this way about the women in their lives.)