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Transitioning as a US Federal Employee

Started by Freya, March 04, 2012, 02:44:06 PM

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Freya

I am hoping to find out if anyone here is or has done it.  It doesn't look like  there is much in the way of insurance coverage is available, but I am hoping someone may have some insight on that.

Fortunately there is a policy protecting individuals in transition:
http://www.opm.gov/diversity/Transgender/Guidance.asp

Freya
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Freya

Either this is a touchy subject or otherwise I hope I am not the lone pioneer on this board about to head out on this adventure.

Freya
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Cindy

I'm Australian so I can't really comment, which of course has never stopped me.

There are a number of police woman on the site who have transitioned. I'm not sure if that means they are Fed or not, and there are several ex service woman who are on site. Not sure how they fit in to your question.

There are also a number of problems at the moment with access to the site so be patient in waiting for answers. I think the USA Vets were saying they did get some support.

One I do remember was the Head of Dade County Police who transitioned 'on the job' you can probably find her details easier than I can.

One thing that is worth mentioning is to talk to your human resource people quite early in the act. They know the laws and have to enforce them. It is easier to get them on side early rather than late.
Again from an Aussie perspective (upside down :laugh:) they organise my toilet arrangements and my care arrangements and counsel people who may have problems with what I'm going through.  With a bit of seniority, tact, tears and knowing the law, you can make your problems theirs. Which I'm very happy to do. It doesn't mean you will not be discriminated against, it means you can sue the ass off the employer, and HR have to support you because they had prior knowledge and therefore had to understand the legal implications. Even if they didn't.

In practice I have had no problems. It may be different in the USA military machine, but from what I understand you are now mainly an office based person rather than a field combatant. My intelligence and ability are not affected by my gender or how I'm dressed. I do follow the proper clothes code for my profession. I seriously doubt that your gender affects your job, it hasn't so far and your gender has never changed. Your sexual identity is also of little importance in most jobs, and your sexual presentation only really becomes an issue if you want to work in a profession were overt sexual presentation is important.
I believe you have a chain of bars? called Hooters? where the waitresses were skimpy clothes and look overtly bimbo female. You may not qualify for such a position. But i sort of doubt that you want that sort of career.

In an office based career I think you may well find females and males contributing equally.

What is between your legs has little impact on your ability to do a good job. IMO.

I even know some guys who can think :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You just have to prompt them. But getting them to have an attention span to put down the toilet seat is impossible. ;D

Cindy
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Freya

QuoteOne thing that is worth mentioning is to talk to your human resource people quite early in the act. They know the laws and have to enforce them. It is easier to get them on side early rather than late.
Again from an Aussie perspective (upside down ) they organise my toilet arrangements and my care arrangements and counsel people who may have problems with what I'm going through.  With a bit of seniority, tact, tears and knowing the law, you can make your problems theirs. Which I'm very happy to do. It doesn't mean you will not be discriminated against, it means you can sue the ass off the employer, and HR have to support you because they had prior knowledge and therefore had to understand the legal implications. Even if they didn't.

You're absolutely right, Cindy!

I have talked to my therapist about this and we intend to go to them probably about the same time I start HRT.  I don't see the point in bringing up the issue now since I don't plan on making changes other than work on my beard that will matter at this time.

One of the big fears for me is that I work for a small, but very significant Command with 3 Admirals on my floor.  We get visits from some of the highest ranked military personnel and even foreign dignitaries.  It's just going to be an interesting place to transition.

From what I have read, Vets do get their hormones paid for through the VA hospitals, but I don't think any surgeries are covered.  I am not a vet, nor have I ever served in the military.  In fact I have no idea how I got my job without having a degree, not that I am complaining ;)

Freya
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Lee

Unfortunately I'm not much help.  I'm under the federal BCBS insurance, and to my understanding it doesn't cover anything specifically trans related.  I guess you can get therapy and hormones by asking the therapist/doctor to be non-specific with how they phrase things, but I'm not sure how well that works.  If you find anything out, please let me know. 
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Freya

QuoteUnfortunately I'm not much help.  I'm under the federal BCBS insurance, and to my understanding it doesn't cover anything specifically trans related.  I guess you can get therapy and hormones by asking the therapist/doctor to be non-specific with how they phrase things, but I'm not sure how well that works.  If you find anything out, please let me know. 

Lee,

My understanding is that's true.  I looked at all the available policies and everyone of them has "Sex Transformations" in their exclusions, almost as if it was a "cookie-cutter" policy statement.  Unfortunately for me to have a chance at having the therapist of my choice covered I will need to switch to an FFS/PPO plan.  I'll have to wait for open enrollment season in November.  Until then I am paying out of pocket for it.  When I get close to HRT I will work with my GP to get a referral to the best TG HRT Endo in town and see if I can get that covered by the FFS/PPO.

Freya
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adt2010

Hello,

I don't know if anyone mentioned, but in the US the American Medical Association (AMA) recently passed a resolution (or something) that stated that insurance companies should cover surgeries related to transitioning as they are medically necessary, and that to not do so would be discrimination. I found this out from a friend of mine and he made a youtube video on it. The link to the pdf of the resolution is:

http://www.tgender.net/taw/ama_resolutions.pdf

Maybe you can talk to your health care provider (higher ups maybe?) and mention this and see if they will cover it?

-Alex (just realized there is a  :police: and that made me real happy)

Youtube username: adt2010
Check it out, and feel free to ask me any questions on here or YouTube.
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Freya

Alex,

Thanks for the info on the AMA and the DSM-IV-TR regarding Gender Dysphoria.  I hadn't seen that yet.

My next Open Enrollment should be in November.  I intend to switch to a PPO, which will cut some costs.  I am hoping at least one of the plans won't have a "ex Transformation"Exclusion.

I saw your videos regarding work troubles.  I would hope by now that has been all cleared up.

Freya.
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Ande

Hi Freya, I asked the same question about transitioning as a fed recently. Did you ever find more info, like whether fed bcbs will cover hrt?
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Freya

It looks like the FY2014 Plans all have the "Sex Transformations" exception again, so nothing directly pertaining to transition is covered.

I was able to get a referal to an endocrinologist for low T and when I told him I'd rather do HRT he prescribed Spironolactone and Estradiol for me.  He identified  the Spiro is for another condition , so I get that covered, but I pay out of pocket, about $28, for 90 days of Estradiol.

Freya
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Jamie D

Freya, after rattling my brains, I think I shook loose that Brooke777 transitioned on the job as a federal employee.  You might drop her a PM, and tell her I am the knucklehead who mentioned her.
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Freya

There is very clear guidance on how to transition in the Federal workforce that protects individuals transitioning, which can be reviewed in this link:
http://www.opm.gov/diversity/Transgender/Guidance.asp

That being said, there are no Federal insurance plans that cover transition, so unless you can get some expenses covered for other medical reasons, HRT and surgery are 100% out of pocket.

Freya
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Freya

The FEHB Kaiser plan now covers transgender services, including hormones and surgery as of January 2014.  Also the OPM is now reviewing the legality of even including "sex transformations" in its insurance benefit exclusions.  So there is a possibility that transgender specific care may be covered be multiple FEHB policies by January 2015.

I wish I knew about Kaiser during the last open enrollment or I would have switched right then.  Unfortunately I ended up in the hospital 3 times during the open enrollment and was afraid to change plans right then and missed it.  Fortunately the issue I had was ultimately trivial and went away on its own.  So now I can't wait to switch to Kaiser or maybe something else in the next open enrollment around November.

Freya
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ThePhoenix

Quote from: Freya on March 09, 2014, 04:25:53 PM
The FEHB Kaiser plan now covers transgender services, including hormones and surgery as of January 2014.  Also the OPM is now reviewing the legality of even including "sex transformations" in its insurance benefit exclusions.  So there is a possibility that transgender specific care may be covered be multiple FEHB policies by January 2015.

I wish I knew about Kaiser during the last open enrollment or I would have switched right then.  Unfortunately I ended up in the hospital 3 times during the open enrollment and was afraid to change plans right then and missed it.  Fortunately the issue I had was ultimately trivial and went away on its own.  So now I can't wait to switch to Kaiser or maybe something else in the next open enrollment around November.

Freya

Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe only Kaiser plans issued in California are trans* inclusive. 
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TerriT

Quote from: ThePhoenix on March 09, 2014, 09:14:41 PM
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe only Kaiser plans issued in California are trans* inclusive.

You are mistaken. My previous (awesome) plan hooked me up with a vast network of therapists and endos. Idk about ffs and surgeries, although I always ecpected to pay out of pocket for that. I paid for lhr and anything else I wanted done though so I'm accustomed to it.

I have Kaiser now, against all my wishes. But I must admit, they're exceptional with trans stuff. They covered my therapy and hrt and all sorts of stuff. I believe they cover srs as well. My endo at Kaiser has been working with trans people for 20+ years. One thing that is convenient is every new doctor I have to see has my records and basically knows what's going on before I have to explain. It makes life much easier.
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Colleen♡Callie

Info on the California ban on the exclusion of transgender issues in health coverage.

http://transgenderlawcenter.org/archives/4273
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Jamie D

Quote from: Freya on March 09, 2014, 04:25:53 PM
The FEHB Kaiser plan now covers transgender services, including hormones and surgery as of January 2014.  Also the OPM is now reviewing the legality of even including "sex transformations" in its insurance benefit exclusions.  So there is a possibility that transgender specific care may be covered be multiple FEHB policies by January 2015.

I wish I knew about Kaiser during the last open enrollment or I would have switched right then.  Unfortunately I ended up in the hospital 3 times during the open enrollment and was afraid to change plans right then and missed it.  Fortunately the issue I had was ultimately trivial and went away on its own.  So now I can't wait to switch to Kaiser or maybe something else in the next open enrollment around November.

Freya

I understand in California Anthem Blue Cross has some trans* benefits, but I don't know if it is affiliated with the federal government.
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Freya

I am fairly certain California health insurance policies do not apply to US federal employees.  That being said, Kaiser has the only policy that does not exclude transition coverage for federal employees, but apparently only in California.  Federal employees may be benefitting from the fact that as a California based company, Kaiser must provide transition coverage.  I did not check all the locations, but that seems to be the case.  If anyone else finds another federal plan that does cover transition, please let us know.

You can look up the Kaiser plans for federal employees by location from the following link to check a specific location.  You'll need to select the Kaiser plan location link, then click the PDF link, and go to section 6, "Exclusions."  If the exclusion says "sex transformations", then the policy does not include specific transgender transition, such as hormones and surgery.  Employees in transition are still protected by federal law for all other insurance benefits.  If the plan does not exclude "sex transformations", then do a search on "transgender" and you will find what the policy covers.

http://www.opm.gov/healthcare-insurance/healthcare/plan-information/compare-plans/PlanSearch.aspx?planname=kaiser&empType=a&payPeriod=c

There is a possibility of the "sex transformation" exclusion being removed from all federal employee health benefit plans by the next open enrollment for 2015, based on the following article from the Federal Times.

http://blogs.federaltimes.com/federal-times-blog/2014/01/15/opm-considering-transgender-care-in-future-employee-health-plans/

I apologize if I get any information incorrect.  I really just stumbled into this and now I wish I known about it for the open enrollment, last November.

Freya

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Freya

Quote from: TiffanyT on March 10, 2014, 02:43:19 AM
You are mistaken. My previous (awesome) plan hooked me up with a vast network of therapists and endos. Idk about ffs and surgeries, although I always ecpected to pay out of pocket for that. I paid for lhr and anything else I wanted done though so I'm accustomed to it.

I have Kaiser now, against all my wishes. But I must admit, they're exceptional with trans stuff. They covered my therapy and hrt and all sorts of stuff. I believe they cover srs as well. My endo at Kaiser has been working with trans people for 20+ years. One thing that is convenient is every new doctor I have to see has my records and basically knows what's going on before I have to explain. It makes life much easier.

TiffanyT,

Looking at the Kaiser specific care, it seems to be all in the East Bay, San Francisco area.  I am hoping you may have had some experience with services in the SoCal area, since it would be great to identify a primary care and an endocrinologist with transgender care experience.  Please let me know if you have any recommendations.  I have a very supportive endo that I hate to give up and a clueless primary care physician, I'd be happy to replace next year.

Freya
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TerriT

Quote from: Freya on March 10, 2014, 09:29:47 PM
TiffanyT,

Looking at the Kaiser specific care, it seems to be all in the East Bay, San Francisco area.  I am hoping you may have had some experience with services in the SoCal area, since it would be great to identify a primary care and an endocrinologist with transgender care experience.  Please let me know if you have any recommendations.  I have a very supportive endo that I hate to give up and a clueless primary care physician, I'd be happy to replace next year.

Freya

I'm sorry but I don't have any experience beyond the Bay Area. My therapist does do phone sessions though. Send me a pm if you'd like her info as she could be really helpful n getting you moved through their system. Especially if your endo is on board.
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