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Clocking: Do mtf feel more vulnerable and insecure in summer than in winter?

Started by Evolving Beauty, March 13, 2014, 02:52:11 PM

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Evolving Beauty

Is it just me or you all out there?

It's that I feel very insecure in summer cos for example I can't conceal my adam's apple with a scarf in summer. It's weird to wear scarf in summer.

Furthermore in winter I wear a hood in morning to be less clockable and it works but in summer I can't do that.

I'm trying to rush as quick as possible to Thailand for my surgeries before we reach summer.

What about others out there, do you feel more insecure in summer?
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Eva Marie

The main issue I will have about summer is short sleeves revealing my upper arm & shoulder size. In winter I can bury them in a sweater. Ain't no way I'm wearing sleeveless anything.
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Constance

I think I've gained enough weight over the years to not really have to worry about my Adam's Apple showing.  :-\

I think it's the colder months that a little more bothersome for me. I no longer wear padded bras and I stopped using breast forms a year and a half ago, so the bulky clothes of winter are more likely to hide my meager nearly A-cup breasts. A cami with a shelf bra helps hold them up enough so that they're somewhat noticeable, so long as I'm not wearing a heavy sweater.

JaimeD

I don't feel any more vulnerable in the summer than I do in the winter. Don't tend to wear bulky clothes anyway. I'm relatively insecure all the time, but I mask it well irl.
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JamesG

Summers here are hot(!) and humid.  My boobs are just getting perky enough to be noticeable. Which would probably be explainable if I were heavyset, but they look pretty odd/obvious on someone thin.  So I'll be wearing a lot of short sleeve button down shirts instead of just t-shirts.
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Jenna Marie

Yeah, I'm another who's the opposite... I feel like my most feminine traits are my long hair and big boobs, and bulky heavy winter clothing conceals all that and makes me look all blocky. It's bad enough that I feel too tall and yet like my legs are too short; layering on too many clothes just makes it look like I have zero curves.

(Of course, I have no visible Adam's apple and had GRS - though pre-op I thought it helped to have the top to distract from the bottom, too.)
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Miss_Bungle1991

Meh...I feel no different in the summer or winter. (Not in terms of gender this and that anyway). I just hate bitter winter cold and brutal summer heat.
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Joanna Dark

The winter destroys my skin like sumtin crazy. Plus, I havent' had laser yet (but I will in two week; i only need one session) so the little bit of hair I have can freeze and be really noticeable on my face. Plus, My face is kinda andro but my body is really nice, soft and busty and winter tends to hide that. I have no adam's apple so that's no problem. Winter clothes suck and I hate them. But as soon as I hget laser I wont be apssing as a guy ever no matter what i do so, it's whatever now.
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KelsieJ

I often hate the way I look and feel like I'm being clocked no matter how I'm dressed. I just confuse people. Dressed in boy clothes, I often get referred to as a lady while out with my SO.......dressed up in my finest, I often feel that I'm being gendered in the opposite direction. Every laugh or snicker I hear, is aimed at me. But if I really pay attention, I usually find out it's completely unrelated, so I'm trying to deal with the whole background noise thing when I'm out......80% of it is probably in our heads :(
Be the change you want to be :)
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KelsieJ

Be the change you want to be :)
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FrancisAnn

Summer is harder for sure. It's hard to hide things under a one piece bathing suit.

Just have fun & who cares.
mtF, mid 50's, always a girl since childhood, HRT (Spiro, E & Fin.) since 8-13. Hormone levels are t at 12 & estrogen at 186. Face lift & eye lid surgery in 2014. Abdominoplasty/tummy tuck & some facial surgery May, 2015. Life is good for me. Love long nails & handsome men! Hopeful for my GRS & a nice normal depth vagina maybe by late summer. 5' 8", 180 pounds, 14 dress size, size 9.5 shoes. I'm kind of an elegant woman & like everything pink, nice & neet. Love my nails & classic Revlon Red. Moving back to Florida, so excited but so much work moving
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Carrie Liz

Summer plus: I can show off my legs, which are one of my most feminine features.
Summer minus: I have to show off my hideous fatty arms, which are one of my most unfeminine features.
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Jill F

Still have some residual guy muscles and not ready for tank tops just yet.  Maybe they'll melt away faster after the orchi?
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Yukari-sensei

The thing that I hate the most about summer is that I live in a very hot and humid place...

Can you say runny makeup? ...Waterproof never is as waterproof as it claims...

Everytime I look in the mirror, it's as if my face were melting. :-\
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noeleena

Hi.

Okay every one is different and that goes for us females as well. i dress in short's sandles  tops with  arms showing i'v nothing to hide i dress nicely of cause, yet im no different than other women and as for summer or winter i dont mind .

In answer to the ? of insecure or vulnerable , im a very strong woman very confident in myself and self assured  to do what i have done over the last 20 years i'v had to be,

And to clocking thats nothing more than a laugh for me im looked at and i give mixed message's all the time  in the main im seen and accepted as female  just for some im seen as like a male in my facial features  i dont mind . i know  sunday just gone  at a meeting a woman said to me your game to be dressed as a woman, = Edwardian  dress wear 1900 -14, i said well i am a female  she said oh sorry. ill bet she'll ask others now, my friends will tell her im a bit different  still female though,

In the group she's a member i have friends there, ..... so next time ill be dressed again when we go there, I dont know wether you have lots of friends i do in all the groups im a member of and more beside,  they know me so well so get involved with some groups you have interests in

...noeleena...
Hi. from New Zealand, Im a woman of difference & intersex who is living life to the full.   we have 3 grown up kids and 11 grand kid's 6 boy's & 5 girl's,
Jos and i are still friends and  is very happy with her new life with someone.
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Ms Grace

I can get away with dressing in summery clothes and fortunately don't have an apple as such to conceal. Not sure yet how I'll go in winter - as others have noted wearing bulky clothes for warmth might conceal what little shape I do have.
Grace
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suzifrommd

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on March 13, 2014, 02:52:11 PM
Is it just me or you all out there?

It's that I feel very insecure in summer cos for example I can't conceal my adam's apple with a scarf in summer. It's weird to wear scarf in summer.

Furthermore in winter I wear a hood in morning to be less clockable and it works but in summer I can't do that.

I'm trying to rush as quick as possible to Thailand for my surgeries before we reach summer.

What about others out there, do you feel more insecure in summer?

I DO wear scarves all summer. I have to. The area around my collarbone has tufts of male body hair that defies epilation and seems impossible to shave smoothly.
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Dahlia

Quote from: KelsieJ on March 13, 2014, 08:45:43 PM
I just confuse people. Dressed in boy clothes, I often get referred to as a lady while out with my SO.......dressed up in my finest, I often feel that I'm being gendered in the opposite direction. Every laugh or snicker I hear, is aimed at me.
This is how it works for a MTF; being on hormones (for a long time) will emphasise your (newly) gained feminine traits by just wearing men's or androgyne clothes etc.

Whereas wearing your 'finest' feminine clothes etc will emphasise your masculine traits, which you're stuck with for life, such as a big head, a thick neck, broad shoulders, a big trunk, no waist, narrow hips, too thin, scragly = masculine legs, etcetc.

Dressing simply works the other way around for MTF....dress masculine or androgynously and you'll be read as female.
Dress very feminine and you'll be read as (a former) male.
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Seyranna

It did that the first 2 years of transition for me. Like:

*SUMMER IS COMING*

But since I'm a pretty masculine lezzy I started to like being buff(I'm really not just bulkier) and I have very high self-confidence so I can rock pretty much anything I want.
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Zumbagirl


Honestly I hate winter more because I don't like the bulky clothes feeling. I really do not like wearing boots to work and then changing into my office shoes once I am in the office. I love summer because I can wear more revealing clothes and with my BA have a little more to umm show off :)
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